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Hello Please could someone find me this record off ancestry.


Canada, CEF Burial Registers, First World War, 1914-1919


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Name: David Edgar Gibbons


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Name: David Edgar Gibbons
Death: dd mm 1917


Thank you Shirlock

This is from Commonwealth War Graves Commission

Name: GIBBONS, DAVID EDGAR
Initials: D E
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (New Brunswick Regiment)
Unit Text: 26th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 04/07/1917
Service No: 69323
Additional information: Son of David and Gertrude Gibbons.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XIX. E. 19.
Cemetery: LOOS BRITISH CEMETERY

Hi Julia

Thank you for this information it is ver useful.

I wandered if the record on ancestry may tell me more.

Regards Shirlock

Sorry Shirlock, that record is available on Worldwide, which I dont have. CWGC is best I can do for you

Julia

I am very grateful to you for finding this. I did not have it.

SatNav Thank you for your help.

Shirlock

If you go to this site:

www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/.../001042-100.01-e.php

You will find his Attestation Papers - search for David E Gibbons and the Service Number given in SatNav's post.

This site is the Canadian version of CWGC. Sometimes there's more info if someone has sent in photos but in this case there's nothing more than what's on CWGC.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem

Thank you for this Potty

Shirlock

Hello MadBull

Thank you very much for looking for me.

Shirlock

If you click on the Loos Cemetery link at the end of the CWGC hit, you'll see that Loos contains reburials from Caldron.
Lievin is abt 4km W of Lens (the e in Lievin has an acute accent, but I've forgotten how to type that)

You look him up at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
[Potty's link is incomplete. NB Sussex is 55 km NE of St John.]

The 2nd div had 3 brigades; the 5th brigade had 4 battalions, incl 26th. A bn had (nominally) 1200+ men, organized into 4 companies (A thru D). The 5th brigade also contained the 5th TM (i.e., Trench Mortar) battery.
At the above URL, you can also click on search help to access the War Diaries of the 26th bn, in particular:

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e039/e000969625.jpg
[Angres is abt 2km SW of Lievin.]

Hi Madbull. That's a very useful website you drew attention to. I guess you may realise this but so as not to confuse anyone I should just point out that it's it's not the Canadian version of CWGC. CWGC is a Commonwealth organisation and their website is funded by the Commonwealth countries fior use throughout the Commonwealth. This causes a bit of confusion from time to time.

Hello
Everyone who has helped with my Gibbons family I am so very grateful to you.

Re- marriages death of parents, children sent to different homes some in Canada and the Canadian Army WW1 now Attestation Papers and war diaries.

I am amazed at the amount of info I have found thanks to some very kind members on Genes Reunited .


Shirlock

Im not sure if you have come accross this record?


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about David E Gibbons
Name: David E Gibbons
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Date of Arrival: 7 Jun 1910
Vessel: Mongolian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Mongolian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4737

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Hi Ginny

Yes I have that thank you. He was with his brother Albert victor.

It is wonderful that this info is on the web now.

Regards Shirley

Denis, I suspect that what Madbull meant is that the Virtual War Memorial site provides the same information for Canadian casualties as may be found at the CWGC site -- it is the Canadian version of the same information. I'm not sure what confusion this might have caused, anyway.

What wasn't mentioned re the Virtual War Memorial site is that each person's memorial page also has a link to their entry in the Books of Remembrance -- elaborate gilt books where the names are recorded. The pages can be downloaded and printed. I believe that family can still obtain a physical copy on request, as well.

Actually I couldn't understand what confusion Denis was refering to. And surely, Denis, you weren't insinuating that Canada is not part of the Commonwealth? Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.

A search at http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/index-e.html

Surname:GIBBONS
Given Name:Albert V
Age:10
Sex:M
Ship:Mongolian
Year of Arrival:1910
Departure Port:Liverpool
Departure Date:24 May 1910
Arrival Port:Halifax
Arrival Date:7 June 1910
Party:Middlemore's
Destination:Halifax, NS
Source:Library and Archives Canada
Reference:RG76 C 1 b
Microfilm:T-4737
Type of Record:Passenger Lists

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Surname:GIBBONS
Given Name:David E
Age:11


A search of Middlemore index at
http://www.bifhsgo.ca/home_children_emigration_scheme.htm

Surname Forename Age Age Date Ship Date left Home for Canada Province where first settled
GIBBONS Albert Victor 14 1913 10 21 Mongolian 1910 05 24 New Brunswick
GIBBONS David Edgar 16 1913 05 25 Mongolian 1910 05 24 New Brunswick

I've never looked up on this site before. I imagine there's an (unfilmed) inspection report taken at the "age date".


Albert Victor Gibbons, dob=21/10/1898 also enlisted into the CEF 24/1/1917 at Bramshott, Hants, UK.
His nok is Arthur Gibbons of 53 McGill St, Toronto, and his service #=794291.
The 132nd bn was a Chatham, NB based unit. After arriving in England, it was absorbed into the 13th reserve bn on 28/1/1917.
This latter unit supplied replacements to the 26th & 44th bns (i.e., the 2 front-line NB bns).
[I think Canadians got abt
4 times the pay of Brits]

There were also two Canadian Training Divisions: one at Shorncliffe (near Folkestone Kent) and the other at Bramshott, although the latter enjoyed several disbandments. In practice, Bramshott received battalions from Canada and then provided reinforcements to top up Shorncliffe which in turn fed the Corps in France. There were, however, numerous exceptions to this rule.

The CEF search help page tells you how you can order xerox copies of Canadian WW1 service records - it's a fixed cost per page, plus postage.
I've only seen a couple, but I think they're worth the money.

NB No hit on CWGC for Albert

I tried looking for all 3 brothers in 1911, both at Ancestry & AG - no hits.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp

In this regard, it's worth citing the 1901 and GRO-index.

1901 England Census
Civil parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Ardwick St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Robert St
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 190

David E Gibbons 30 Clerkenwell, London, England Head M Journeyman Tailor
Gertrude L Gibbons 26 St Pancras, London, England Wife M
Arthur P Gibbons 5 Birmingham Son
David E Gibbons 3 Birmingham Son
Albert V Gibbons 1 Birmingham Son

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3674; Folio: 41; Page: 30.


Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
Gibbons Arthur Patrick D Birmingham 6d 111

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Gibbons David Edgar D Birmingham 6d 159

Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
Gibbons Albert Victor Birmingham 6d 83

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Brewer Harry Michael Aston 6d 461
BREWER Henry Michael Aston 6d 461
Brewer Henry Michael Aston 6d 461
Gibbons David Edgar Aston 6d 461
Porter Jane Elizabeth Aston 6d 461
Poynter Gertrude Louise Aston 6d 461

Deaths Dec 1905 (>99%)
GIBBONS Gertrude Louis[ae] 31 Chorlton 8c 500

I don't know abt this guy:

Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
GIBBONS David 38 Birmingham 6d 53

Hello mgnv

Thank you for all this information.

I do think the Death 1909 is David gibbons because they did move back o Birmingham and I believe this is when the family were all plit up.

Thank you for you help.

Shirlock

mgnv

All that info has been given before on one of the other seven threads about this family in the last week

Shirlock you should keep to one thread as people are just wasting their time finding things you know already

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