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patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2011 18:50

This could be 1841, age of Emma out, unfortunately, and address not clear:
1841 England Census
Charles Jones
Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Gender: Male Where born: Wales Civil parish: Liverpool Hundred: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street Address: Redish Court Pembroke Place Occupation: JOINER
Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
Charles Jones 26
Ann Jones 30 not local
Emma Jones 2 not local
Thomas Jones 1 local
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 561; Book: 20; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 21; Folio: 7; Page: 6; Line: 1; GSU roll: 438713.

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2011 18:40

This is not Ruabon, but some of the children were born in Liverpool:
Marriages Sep 1838
ESLIN Thomas Liverpool 20 112
xxx Jones Charles Liverpool 20 112
LANGAN Margaret Liverpool 20 112
MARTLEW John Liverpool 20 112
ROBERTS James Liverpool 20 112
WALKER Ann Liverpool 20 112
xxx WILLIAMS Ann Liverpool 20 112
WILSON Mary Liverpool 20 112
but there is no guarantee that Charles married Ann, as it could be any of the females names.
But it is a very long shot.

Added: Had not noticed the above information from safc.
It was on the next page, sorry.
So mine was a good guess?
If it is the correct marriage, then they should be together in 1841, somewhere.

Abby

Abby Report 18 Apr 2011 16:49

????

Marriage: 4 Jul 1838 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Charles Jones - Full Age Joiner Bachelor of Vernon St
Ann Williams - Full Age Spinster of Dale St
Groom's Father: Joseph Jones, Joiner
Bride's Father: John Williams, Coach Man
Witness: Thomas Wright; Harriet Wright, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Cheetham A M Curate
Register: Marriages 1838 - 1839, Page 72, Entry 143
Source: LDS Film 93920

Sue

Sue Report 18 Apr 2011 16:24

Yes, this was the right birth thank you. Anne's maiden name was Williams.

Please let me know if you find any marriage around the Ruabon area for late 1830's/early 1840
Sue

Sue

Sue Report 11 Apr 2011 18:35

Thanks I'll try that one

patchem

patchem Report 11 Apr 2011 18:24

This one:
Jessey recorded as Jessie:
Births Dec 1847
JONES Jessie Gt. Boughton 19 36

Great Boughton includes Chester St. Oswald which is where they are living in 1851, so looking good?

patchem

patchem Report 11 Apr 2011 18:20

In 1851 Jessey is definitely recorded as a son, so perhaps the enumerator was not concentrating.

There is this Jessey which must be the birth certificate that you have got:
1851 England Census
Jessey Jones
Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edward Jones Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jones Gender: F (Female) Where born: Tranmere, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Tranmere Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Wirral Sub-registration district: Birkenhead ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Household schedule number: 57
Edward Jones 42
Elizabeth Jones 43
Ann Jones 10
Martha Jones 17
Price Jones 15
George Jones 12
Eliza Jones 9
Emma Jones 7
Jessey Jones 3
Edward Jones 5 MO
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2175; Folio: 905; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87168.
Sorry.

So we need another Jessey birth (the correct one!)

Sue

Sue Report 11 Apr 2011 12:33

Just received the birth certificate for Jessey and under that reference the father is Edward Jones and mother Elizabeth. Could you see if there's another Jessey about the same time(1847c) in the Cheshire area please? Also, on checking the 1871 census, Jessey is a girl.

Sue

Sue

Sue Report 4 Apr 2011 17:33

Didn't think this one through did I! I'll do that.

patchem

patchem Report 3 Apr 2011 20:33

How many Thomas Jones do you think were born in Liverpool around 1841?
Lots. (40?) (Thomas Jones 1839 to 1842, Liverpool)
So, Jessey Jones is a safer bet for names.
You can then request birth for Thomas with same maiden name to confirm.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Apr 2011 20:28

Registration began on July 1 1837


so you should be able to get a certificate.




sylvia

Sue

Sue Report 3 Apr 2011 19:42

I've one thought - as Thomas Jones (Jessey's older brother) is my direct ancestor, would his mother's maiden name appear on his birth certificate as well as Jessey's? Or was he born too early for that information to be registered? He would have been born around 1841 in Liverpool.

Sue

Sue Report 1 Apr 2011 18:01

I'll order it to find out and let you know. Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2011 18:32

Have you found out Anne's maiden name (from Jessey's birth certificate)?
If it is a second marriage for Anne, then we would be looking for a different family in 1841.

Sue

Sue Report 31 Mar 2011 13:38

Can anyone find the family of Charles and Anne Jones in the 1841 Census? Should be in Ruabon Denbighshire I think.

Still can't find a definite date for their marriage (in Ruabon) though if you can help with that one please.

Thank you.

Sue

Sue

Sue Report 13 Mar 2011 14:36

Thanks for all your help

Sue

patchem

patchem Report 12 Mar 2011 19:38

This will give Mother's maiden name:
Births Dec 1847
JONES Jessey Wirral 19 270

patchem

patchem Report 12 Mar 2011 19:36

Thomas and Sarah born Liverpool, Eliza in Birkenhead, and Jessey in Chester.

patchem

patchem Report 12 Mar 2011 19:34

Jessey is a son.

patchem

patchem Report 12 Mar 2011 19:34

Oldest daughter(in this census) born Ruabon, so probably married there:
1851 England Census
Charles Jones
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Anne Jones Gender: M (Male) Where born: Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish: Chester St Oswald County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Occupation: carpenter Registration district: Great Boughton Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Household schedule number: 21

Charles Jones 34
Anne Jones 40
Emma Jones 11
Thomas Jones 10
Sarah Jones 9
Eliza Jones 6
Jessey Jones 3

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2172; Folio: 59; Page: 8; GSU roll: 87162-87164.

Wonder if it is Anne's second marriage?