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Need Help! We are trying to discover death dates for Thomas Tallon born 1808 Whittington Lancashire and his wife Rebecca born same year at Storth, Sandside, maiden name Jackson.
We, meaning Myself and four Cousins. We have all other information on these two, as in their marriage date 1829, their Parents, Grand-parents and so on. We have all their childrens names and details, but we cannot find death records for Thomas and Rebecca anywhere. Thomas was a Blacksmith.
Their two eldest, John J and Thomas Tallon were born in Hutton Roof, close to Whittington. The family then moved to Blackburn Lancashire, were the rest of the chidren were born. They appear on the 1841 Blackburn Census, but they were hard to find. As their surname was badly transcribed, also only initials where used for their first names.
Their last child Rebecca Tallon was born 1844, .
On the 1851 Census the children are living back in Whittington at Newton Village, in two seperate houses, listed as paupers. No trace of their parents, so somthing must of happened to Thomas and Rebecca between 1844 (after birth of last child) and 1851? We have looked for mis-spelt Surnames as in Fallon Tallan Tallant and so on. Both in Blackburn, Whittington, Kirkby Lonsdale and Hutton Roof, but nothing. We need some fresh eyes on this one please.

What about this


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Tallon
Name: Thomas Tallon
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 439 (click to see others on page)

Did Rebecca marry again? When was she born please?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Rebecca Tallon
Name: Rebecca Tallon
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Lancaster
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 827 Robert Hartley


Second thoughts this is most likely the daughters marriage!

Can you post the censuses that you have for them

probably is the daughters marriage

Marriage: 15 Jun 1867 St Paul, Caton, Lancashire, England
Robert Hartley - (X), full age Labourer Bachelor of Caton
Rebecca Tallon - full age Spinster of Caton
Groom's Father: Edward Hartley, Labourer
Bride's Father: Thomas Tallon, Blacksmith
Witness: Thomas Tallon; John Capstack
Married by Banns by: Arthur Christopherson, Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1900, Page 107, Entry 214
Source: LDS Film 1278857

1841 for reference...

SALLON, T M 30 1811 Lancashire VIEW Blacksmith
SALLON, R F 28 1813 Lancashire VIEW
SALLON, T M 9 1832 Lancashire VIEW
SALLON, J M 8 1833 Lancashire VIEW
SALLON, Jas M 4 1837 Lancashire VIEW
SALLON, B F 2 1839 Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
502 Book/Folio:
14/50 Page:
40

Registration District:
Blackburn Sub District:
Blackburn Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Blackburn Municipal Borough:
Blackburn Address:
High Street, Blackburn County:
Lancashire

nicky

Where have you got your info from...as in the parents of Rebecca?


x

Sorry. I meant the birth of Rebecca 1808

x

Out of interest Katriona


Have you purchased the death certificate for Thomas d 1849? If so, what are the details on it?

x

Have you purchased the death certificate for Thomas d 1849? If so, what are the details on it?

Thanks Wendy


Can you tell us who the informant was and the the details on the death cert please

Hi

Does anyone know out of curiosity, if people drowned and the bodies were never recovered, would death certificates be issued? Or does there always have to be a body as proof of death. I think there does have to be a body but not certain.

Thanks

You say that the 1841 census mistranscribed as Sallon is the right family.
Thomas's age might have been rounded down but it would seem Rebecca's wasn't ( 28).
This would indicate a birth in the 2nd half of 1812.



Baptisms: 6 Sep 1812 St Oswald, Warton Nr Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Rebecca Jackson - Daughter of Robert Jackson & Ann [formerly Burrow]
Born: 17 Aug 1812
Abode: Silverdale
Occupation: farmer


Married in Oct 1829, she would have been 17 .
Not unknown for brides to add a few years on the cert.

What name and occupation did Rebecca give for her father on her marriage cert ?

EDIT :
that should be parish record - I realise no marriage certs before 1837

Have you checked all the census after 1841 just in case Thomas and Rebecca are still alive?

I know in 1851 the children are down as Paupers, but that dosn`t nessecarily mean that both parents were dead.

Have you followed all the children through their marriages and found them on every census?........not unheard of for elderly parents to be living with their grown up married children.


Nicky

You're allowed a day off !

Transcribed as Howlinson on freebmd


Marriages Sep 1882 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hodgson William Lunesdale 8e 1167
>>>>>>>>HOWLINSON William - Lunesdale 8e 1167
>>>>>>TALLON Isabella - Lunesdale 8e 1167
Whitfield Ann Lunesdale 8e 1167
Whitfield Anne Lunesdale 8e 1167

Whilst searching under different spellings...
you may have this


Isabella Fallon --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 18 MAR 1839

Christening: 28 APR 1839 St Mary-The-Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
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Parents:
Father: Thomas Fallon
Mother: Rebecca

Just spotted Mike's posts just as I was about to log off for the night. It was UKBMD that say's Rowlinson and Online Parish records give Rowlinson on Isabella's burial record. I did see the Fallon mis-spelling.

Night All

Do you have a copy of Isabellas marriage cert./

if so what does it say under father?


Nicky

Nickydownsouth

No I don't have a copy of Isabella's marriage cert, but I do have her Brother's marriage Cert 1856 and gives father Thomas Tallon Blacksmith, and does NOT say Deceased. Then a Marriage in Scotland 1886 which names both Father, Thomas and Mother, Rebecca, BOTH Deceased. I love how Scottish Records name both Parents on all BMD's. How many times I have looked at that first marriage cert and never really noticed that it appears that Thomas was alive, Duh... I will look into their Sister Rebecca's marriage record and see what it says for Father

Thanks very much for that, Nicky. Been searching this family on and off for quite sometime and forgot about that 1856 marriage cert.