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10 Apr 2011 15:36 |
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John Croxford Omnibus driver (1845 Tooting-1910 Fullham) In the 1881 Census he appeared in 2 different households
house #1 Kensington County Middlesex Wife Mary (1851 Dorset-1886 Kensington) children William (1871), John (1873)
house #2 St Marylebone County Wife Mary (1862 Middlesex) my GG Grandmother Child John (1881 London) this census has John Snr DOB 1851
some strange similarities Both wives called Mary, 2x sons named John & the date of birth recorded on household #2 for Jonn Snr is the same year wife #1 was born
if anyone has any more information on my GG Grandfather & his unusual family I would love to hear from you
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10 Apr 2011 15:51 |
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1891 census
1891 England Census about John Croxford Name: John Croxford Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary J Croxford Gender: Male Where born: Tooting, Surrey, England Civil parish: Clapham Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Clapham County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Clapham ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Croxford 41 Mary J Croxford 29 Archelas Croxford 10 John Harold Croxford 8 Florence Mary Croxford 6 Henry Croxford 2 Months Andy
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10 Apr 2011 16:00 |
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The first Mary?
Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%) CROXFORD Mary 37 Kensington 1a 76
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Ashley
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10 Apr 2011 16:50 |
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Ta very much for your help. Florence is my Great Grandmother. I still require as much help & info as possible that includes All "JUICY TID BITS"
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10 Apr 2011 18:16 |
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1871??
Name: John Croxford Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Croxford Gender: Male Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England Civil parish: Hanwell Town: Hanwell County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Acton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 89 Household Members: Name Age John Croxford 25 Occ: Coachman Mary Croxford 24 born Dorset William H A Croxford 1 Month Born Middlesex
Son William's birth: Name: William Henry A Croxford Year of Registration: 1871 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Brentford County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 88
Son William's baptism: Name: William Henry Augustus Croxford Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: March 1871 Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1871 Father's Name: John Croxford Occ: Coachman Mother's Name: Mary Croxford Parish or Poor Law Union: Hanwell St Mary Borough: Ealing
1881: Name: John Croxford Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Croxford Gender: Male Where born: Tooting Civil parish: Kensington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 10 Bolton Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Omnibus Driver Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 40b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Croxford 36 Mary Croxford 30 born Dorset William Croxford 10 born Hanwell, Middlesex John Croxford 8 born Hanwell, Middlesex
Son John's birth: Name: John Croxford Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Brentford County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 106
Son John's baptism: Name: John Croxford Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 29/7/872 Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1873 Father's Name: John Croxford Occ: Coachman Mother's Name: Mary Croxford Parish or Poor Law Union: Hanwell St Mary Borough: Ealing
The son John in 1891: Name: John Croxford Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susan Croxford Gender: Male Where born: Hanwell, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Groom
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
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View image Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Croxford 19 Susan Croxford 20 born Kensington
The son John in 1901?? Name: John Croxford Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Patient Gender: Male Where born: Hanwell, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St John, St Margaret, and Westminster Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Soldier in Yorkshire Light Infantry
Condition as to marriage: Single?
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: St Margaret and St John ED, institution, or vessel: Station Hospital Rochester Row Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1
It is a military hospital.
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10 Apr 2011 18:24 |
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All these married around the same time
Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Croxford John Marylebone 1a 853
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROXFORD John Kensington 1a 166
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CROXFORD John Clerkenwell 1b 873
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Jonesey
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10 Apr 2011 19:04 |
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??? Births Mar 1845 (>99%) Croxford John Epsom 4 133
N.B. Epsom Registration District included Ewell
1851?? Name: John Croxford Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Croxford Mother's Name: Ann Croxford Gender: M (Male) Where born: Ewell, Surrey, England Civil parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age Henry Croxford 32 Ann Croxford 35 Harriet Croxford 13 Walter Croxford 10 Mary Ann Croxford 8 John Croxford 6 Albert Croxford 4 Alice Croxford 11 MO
1861??
Name: John Croxford Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Gender: Male Where born: Ewell, Surrey, England Civil parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Horse Keeper
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 448 Household Members: Name Age Henry Croxford 49 Ann Croxford 44 John Croxford 16 Albert Croxford 11 Alice Croxford 10 Ann Bowen 57
Name: John Croxford Occ: Groom Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Spouse Name: Mary Phripp Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 06 Sep 1868 Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone County: Middlesex Borough: Westminster Father Name: Henry Croxford Occ:Groom Spouse Father Name: William Phripp
1851: Name: Mary Rachel Phripp Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Sams Phripp Mother's Name: Caroline Phripp Gender: F (Female) Where born: Gillingham, Dorset, England Civil parish: Sherborne County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address:
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Disability:
View image Registration district: Sherborne Sub-registration district: Yetminster ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age William Sams Phripp 36 Caroline Phripp 28 Stephen Phripp 9 Mary Rachel Phripp 4 Amelia Phripp 3 Joseph Winn 28 John Willis 18
1861: Name: Mary R Phripp Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female >>>Where born: Gillingham, Dorset, England Civil parish: Isleworth Ecclesiastical parish: Isleworth All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Isleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 122 Household Members: Name Age John Winn 64 Ann Winn 50 Selina Winn 29 Emily E Winn 4 Henry James Winn 1 MO John Ashford 57 Elijah Shat 23 Mary R Phripp 13
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10 Apr 2011 19:17 |
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2 different ones here (different fathers)
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Croxford Name: John Croxford Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Spouse Name: Mary Phripp Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 06 Sep 1868 Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone County: Middlesex Borough: Westminster Father Name: Henry Croxford Spouse Father Name: William Phripp London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Croxford Name: John Croxford Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Spouse Name: Mary Ann Field Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 17 May 1869 Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square County: Middlesex Borough: Islington Father Name: Richard Croxford Spouse Father Name: Joseph Field
1st one was a groom as was his father, 2nd one a whitesmith, father a baker.
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10 Apr 2011 19:49 |
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1/1/1915 no body recovered in the death of John Harold Croxford born 19/8/1881 St pancras.Wfie Elizabeth and mum MJ Croxford 212, Munster Road fulham.
1911 212 Munster Road Mary Jane Croxford 1863 Widow born Marylebone 6 children 2 died Charles henry 1891 Wandsworth Library Assistant.
Mary Jane Croxford of 212 Munster Road died 27/1/1927 left £193 6s 8d to John William Archibald Croxford a Painter.
Did Florence Mary Croxford marry Frederick Thomas Dixon in 1910?
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Jonesey
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10 Apr 2011 20:10 |
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Births Sep 1880 (>99%) CROXFORD John William A Marylebone 1a 617
This is obviously John in the 1881 census (In Marylebone) and Archibald (Wrongly transcribed as Archelas) in the 1891 census.
??? Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) Croxford John Pancras 1b 255 Stickland Mary Jane Pancras 1b 255
I would say that it is certainly worth getting a copy of this certificate to see what details it shows for John Croxford's father.
1901:
Name: John Croxford Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary J Croxford Gender: Male Where born: Tooting, London, England Civil parish: Fulham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Fulham Sub-registration district: North West Fulham ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 44 Household Members: Name Age John Croxford 51 Mary J Croxford 38 born Marylebone, London Archibald W Croxford 20 Florence M Croxford 16 Henry C Croxford 10 Elsie C Croxford 5
Births Sep 1862 (>99%) STRICKLAND Mary Jane Pancras 1b 42
1871: Name: Mary J Strickland Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Jessie Strickland Mother's Name: Elizabeth Strickland Gender: Female Where born: St Pancras Civil parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: All Souls ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 471 Household Members: Name Age Jessie Strickland 35 Elizabeth Strickland 37 Elizabeth Ann Strickland 11 Mary J Strickland 8 Eliza E Strickland 6 Jessie K Strickland 8
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10 Apr 2011 20:11 |
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He is Archibald W in 1901 at 212 Munster Road.
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Jonesey
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10 Apr 2011 20:37 |
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Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%) CROXFORD John H Lind Fulham 1a 566 LIND Elizabeth J Croxford Fulham 1a 566
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Ashley
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11 Apr 2011 14:59 |
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Thank you all so much.. i'm only a learner so PLEASE be gentle... the details i have were located by some other genes members because I live in Australia & have very little info on my relatives..
i was told that the records showed there was only one John Croxford born in Surrey in a 15 year period (b4 & after his birth) apparently there is no mothers maiden name listed for Florence
Frederick Dixon 1870 Chelsea (husband) Florence Croxford 1899 London (wife) Percy Charles Dixon 1916 Fullham (son/husband) Doris Constance Doel 1915 Willesden (wife) Gloria Mae Dixon 16/2/1941 Hammersmith (daughter)
all this time i hoped for scandal, murderers or royalty would have suited me Now its looking like my ancestors were just normal.. I beg you PLEASE find me something juicy if not just a little dirt would be truly appreciated... thanks again you are all amazing for helping me...
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Jonesey
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11 Apr 2011 15:29 |
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Not your John Croxford but one of his ancestors perhaps:
JOHN CROXFORD was indicted for feloniously assaulting John Bowen Willoughby on the King's highway, on the 23d of May , putting him fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, one watch, value £10.; three seals, value £7.; and one watch-chain, value £7. , his property.
For the full transcript of the trial goto:
www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18170702-15&div=t18170702-15&terms=croxford#highlight
Will that satisfy your lust for a murky family past? (lol)
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Ashley
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11 Apr 2011 15:47 |
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Not by a long shot... i want REAL relations but thank you very much i cant get over how quick you locate things its like a foriegn language to me..
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jax
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11 Apr 2011 15:52 |
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If you go to freebmd you can see how many John Croxfords were born
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
The years of births can be out by a few years too on the census for whatever reason maybe they were not sure or wanted to be younger or older...places of birth may not be correct as they could not remember or just named a place they lived as a child
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Ashley
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11 Apr 2011 15:57 |
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i am getting more confused & frustrated each day.. Who said it gets easier? I'D LIKE A FEW WORDS WITH THEM.. TA
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Jonesey
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11 Apr 2011 16:05 |
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Never believe what you see in programs such as Who Do You Think You Are (lol). I hope you get that down under, it would seem only fair since you sent us Neighbours.
Although I suspect that it is quite a bit easier to find out about your ancestors if you have such things as an army of paid assistants working on your behalf, unlimited resources and private consultations with genealogical experts in places all around the world (All travel expences paid).
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Ashley
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11 Apr 2011 16:07 |
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By now everyone out there realizes I'm Useless.. can anyone tell me who I am actually related to? Knowing my luck I have travelled well & truly up the garden path, around the bend & into the backyard of no return..
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Ashley
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11 Apr 2011 16:22 |
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Don't go blaming Neighbours on me.... i would prefer to poke my eyes out than watch that who-ha i'm more of an Eastenders, Coronation Street, Holly Oaks kind of Girl
I might try robbing a bank because I can pay something like 1500 pounds get a blood test & almost instantly find out my irish roots funny considering they destroyed almost all official documentation years ago.. Honestly I think I have 3 chances of finding anything anywhere (unless it has nothing to do with me) those chances are: Buckleys **** all & NONE I dont suppose you have a spare assistant you wanna loan a poor usless Aussie who hates neighbours?
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