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Ashley

Ashley Report 10 Apr 2011 15:36

John Croxford Omnibus driver (1845 Tooting-1910 Fullham)
In the 1881 Census he appeared in 2 different households

house #1 Kensington County Middlesex
Wife Mary (1851 Dorset-1886 Kensington)
children William (1871), John (1873)

house #2 St Marylebone County
Wife Mary (1862 Middlesex) my GG Grandmother
Child John (1881 London)
this census has John Snr DOB 1851

some strange similarities
Both wives called Mary, 2x sons named John & the date of birth recorded on household #2 for Jonn Snr is the same year wife #1 was born

if anyone has any more information on my GG Grandfather & his unusual family I would love to hear from you

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Apr 2011 15:51

1891 census

1891 England Census
about John Croxford Name: John Croxford
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Croxford
Gender: Male
Where born: Tooting, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Clapham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Croxford 41
Mary J Croxford 29
Archelas Croxford 10
John Harold Croxford 8
Florence Mary Croxford 6
Henry Croxford 2 Months



Andy

K

K Report 10 Apr 2011 16:00

The first Mary?

Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%)
CROXFORD Mary 37 Kensington 1a 76

Ashley

Ashley Report 10 Apr 2011 16:50

Ta very much for your help.
Florence is my Great Grandmother.
I still require as much help & info as possible that includes
All "JUICY TID BITS"

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 10 Apr 2011 18:16

1871??

Name: John Croxford
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Croxford
Gender: Male
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Hanwell
Town: Hanwell
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members:
Name Age
John Croxford 25 Occ: Coachman
Mary Croxford 24 born Dorset
William H A Croxford 1 Month Born Middlesex

Son William's birth:
Name: William Henry A Croxford
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 88

Son William's baptism:
Name: William Henry Augustus Croxford
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: March 1871
Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1871
Father's Name: John Croxford Occ: Coachman
Mother's Name: Mary Croxford
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hanwell St Mary
Borough: Ealing

1881:
Name: John Croxford
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Croxford
Gender: Male
Where born: Tooting
Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Bolton Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Omnibus Driver
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 40b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Croxford 36
Mary Croxford 30 born Dorset
William Croxford 10 born Hanwell, Middlesex
John Croxford 8 born Hanwell, Middlesex

Son John's birth:
Name: John Croxford
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 106

Son John's baptism:
Name: John Croxford
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 29/7/872
Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1873
Father's Name: John Croxford Occ: Coachman
Mother's Name: Mary Croxford
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hanwell St Mary
Borough: Ealing

The son John in 1891:
Name: John Croxford
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan Croxford
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanwell, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Groom

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Croxford 19
Susan Croxford 20 born Kensington

The son John in 1901??
Name: John Croxford
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanwell, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St John, St Margaret, and Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Soldier in Yorkshire Light Infantry

Condition as to marriage: Single?

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St Margaret and St John
ED, institution, or vessel: Station Hospital Rochester Row
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

It is a military hospital.



jax

jax Report 10 Apr 2011 18:24

All these married around the same time

Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)
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Croxford John Marylebone 1a 853

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Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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CROXFORD John Kensington 1a 166

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Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
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CROXFORD John Clerkenwell 1b 873

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 10 Apr 2011 19:04

???
Births Mar 1845 (>99%)
Croxford John Epsom 4 133

N.B. Epsom Registration District included Ewell

1851??
Name: John Croxford
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Croxford
Mother's Name: Ann Croxford
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ewell, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Croxford 32
Ann Croxford 35
Harriet Croxford 13
Walter Croxford 10
Mary Ann Croxford 8
John Croxford 6
Albert Croxford 4
Alice Croxford 11 MO

1861??

Name: John Croxford
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Gender: Male
Where born: Ewell, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Horse Keeper

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 448
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Croxford 49
Ann Croxford 44
John Croxford 16
Albert Croxford 11
Alice Croxford 10
Ann Bowen 57

Name: John Croxford Occ: Groom
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Spouse Name: Mary Phripp
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 06 Sep 1868
Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Henry Croxford Occ:Groom
Spouse Father Name: William Phripp

1851:
Name: Mary Rachel Phripp
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Sams Phripp
Mother's Name: Caroline Phripp
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Gillingham, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Sherborne
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Sherborne
Sub-registration district: Yetminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sams Phripp 36
Caroline Phripp 28
Stephen Phripp 9
Mary Rachel Phripp 4
Amelia Phripp 3
Joseph Winn 28
John Willis 18


1861:
Name: Mary R Phripp
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
>>>Where born: Gillingham, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Isleworth All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members:
Name Age
John Winn 64
Ann Winn 50
Selina Winn 29
Emily E Winn 4
Henry James Winn 1 MO
John Ashford 57
Elijah Shat 23
Mary R Phripp 13

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Apr 2011 19:17

2 different ones here (different fathers)

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Croxford Name: John Croxford
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Spouse Name: Mary Phripp
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 06 Sep 1868
Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Henry Croxford
Spouse Father Name: William Phripp

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Croxford Name: John Croxford
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Field
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 17 May 1869
Parish: St Mark, Myddelton Square
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Richard Croxford
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Field

1st one was a groom as was his father, 2nd one a whitesmith, father a baker.

Mary

Mary Report 10 Apr 2011 19:49

1/1/1915 no body recovered in the death of John Harold Croxford born 19/8/1881 St pancras.Wfie Elizabeth and mum MJ Croxford 212, Munster Road fulham.

1911 212 Munster Road Mary Jane Croxford 1863 Widow born Marylebone 6 children 2 died
Charles henry 1891 Wandsworth Library Assistant.

Mary Jane Croxford of 212 Munster Road died 27/1/1927 left £193 6s 8d to John William Archibald Croxford a Painter.

Did Florence Mary Croxford marry Frederick Thomas Dixon in 1910?

Maryb

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 10 Apr 2011 20:10

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
CROXFORD John William A Marylebone 1a 617

This is obviously John in the 1881 census (In Marylebone) and Archibald (Wrongly transcribed as Archelas) in the 1891 census.

???
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
Croxford John Pancras 1b 255
Stickland Mary Jane Pancras 1b 255

I would say that it is certainly worth getting a copy of this certificate to see what details it shows for John Croxford's father.

1901:

Name: John Croxford
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Croxford
Gender: Male
Where born: Tooting, London, England
Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
John Croxford 51
Mary J Croxford 38 born Marylebone, London
Archibald W Croxford 20
Florence M Croxford 16
Henry C Croxford 10
Elsie C Croxford 5

Births Sep 1862 (>99%)
STRICKLAND Mary Jane Pancras 1b 42

1871:
Name: Mary J Strickland
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jessie Strickland
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Strickland
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 471
Household Members:
Name Age
Jessie Strickland 35
Elizabeth Strickland 37
Elizabeth Ann Strickland 11
Mary J Strickland 8
Eliza E Strickland 6
Jessie K Strickland 8

Mary

Mary Report 10 Apr 2011 20:11

He is Archibald W in 1901 at 212 Munster Road.

Maryb

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 10 Apr 2011 20:37

Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
CROXFORD John H Lind Fulham 1a 566
LIND Elizabeth J Croxford Fulham 1a 566

Ashley

Ashley Report 11 Apr 2011 14:59

Thank you all so much.. i'm only a learner so PLEASE be gentle...
the details i have were located by some other genes members because I live in Australia & have very little info on my relatives..

i was told that the records showed there was only one John Croxford born in Surrey in a 15 year period (b4 & after his birth)
apparently there is no mothers maiden name listed for Florence

Frederick Dixon 1870 Chelsea (husband)
Florence Croxford 1899 London (wife)
Percy Charles Dixon 1916 Fullham (son/husband)
Doris Constance Doel 1915 Willesden (wife)
Gloria Mae Dixon 16/2/1941 Hammersmith (daughter)

all this time i hoped for scandal, murderers or royalty would have suited me
Now its looking like my ancestors were just normal..
I beg you PLEASE find me something juicy
if not just a little dirt would be truly appreciated...
thanks again you are all amazing for helping me...

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 11 Apr 2011 15:29

Not your John Croxford but one of his ancestors perhaps:

JOHN CROXFORD was indicted for feloniously assaulting John Bowen Willoughby on the King's highway, on the 23d of May , putting him fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, one watch, value £10.; three seals, value £7.; and one watch-chain, value £7. , his property.

For the full transcript of the trial goto:

www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18170702-15&div=t18170702-15&terms=croxford#highlight

Will that satisfy your lust for a murky family past? (lol)

Ashley

Ashley Report 11 Apr 2011 15:47

Not by a long shot... i want REAL relations
but thank you very much i cant get over how quick you locate things
its like a foriegn language to me..

jax

jax Report 11 Apr 2011 15:52

If you go to freebmd you can see how many John Croxfords were born


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

The years of births can be out by a few years too on the census for whatever reason maybe they were not sure or wanted to be younger or older...places of birth may not be correct as they could not remember or just named a place they lived as a child

jax

Ashley

Ashley Report 11 Apr 2011 15:57

i am getting more confused & frustrated each day..
Who said it gets easier? I'D LIKE A FEW WORDS WITH THEM..
TA

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 11 Apr 2011 16:05

Never believe what you see in programs such as Who Do You Think You Are (lol). I hope you get that down under, it would seem only fair since you sent us Neighbours.

Although I suspect that it is quite a bit easier to find out about your ancestors if you have such things as an army of paid assistants working on your behalf, unlimited resources and private consultations with genealogical experts in places all around the world (All travel expences paid).

Ashley

Ashley Report 11 Apr 2011 16:07

By now everyone out there realizes I'm Useless..
can anyone tell me who I am actually related to?
Knowing my luck I have travelled well & truly up the garden path, around the bend & into the backyard of no return..

Ashley

Ashley Report 11 Apr 2011 16:22

Don't go blaming Neighbours on me....
i would prefer to poke my eyes out than watch that who-ha
i'm more of an Eastenders, Coronation Street, Holly Oaks kind of Girl

I might try robbing a bank because I can pay something like
1500 pounds get a blood test & almost instantly find out my irish roots
funny considering they destroyed almost all official documentation years ago..
Honestly I think I have 3 chances of finding anything anywhere (unless it has nothing to do with me)
those chances are: Buckleys **** all & NONE
I dont suppose you have a spare assistant you wanna loan a poor usless Aussie who hates neighbours?