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Re: Marriage posted by Flick above in 1855:

The missing female was Eliza Salmon.

This is the wedding:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Eliza Salmon Name: Eliza Salmon
Spouse Name: William Edward Villiers
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Aug 1855
Parish: St George, Bloomsbury
COUNTY: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: George Salmon ... Farrier ?
Spouse Father Name: George Henry Villiers ... Surgeon.

Witnesses Robert Cadogan and Phoebe Ann Harpey ???

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This is Eliza and William on 1855 !

1851 England Census
about Eliza Salmon Name: Eliza Salmon
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Sister
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Orphington, Kent, England

Civil parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration district: St Martin In The Fields
Sub-registration district: Long Acre
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age

Mary A Salmon 22 Superintendent of an Hotel, (sister-in-law) ???
Eliza Salmon 17 sister, Waitress at Hotel
William E Villiard 18 Waiter at Hotel, (Now born Germany !! - don't think he was ??)

William Wagner 37 ......from here down - visitors at Hotel.
George Mautte 35
John Grey 28
Francis M Selby 23
William Barns 27
Lidia Hill 46

at 91 St. Martins Lane.

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1482; Folio: 29; Page: 4; GSU roll: 87807.
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Dea x

thank you one and all once again.
linda

One female missing

Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%)
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Blake Henry St.Giles 1b 518
Jamblin Mary Ann Rimes St Giles 1b 518
Villiers William Edward St Giles 1b 518
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Margaret's parents, perhaps?

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
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Bray Caroline Eleanor Chelsea 1a 492
Kingstone Annie Chelsea 1a 492
Nettleton William Henry Chelsea 1a 492
VILLIERS William Edward Chelsea 1a 492

Oh, I thought you had the marriage cert.....my mistake

1961 marriage..confirming the death posted above, which shows birth date to match the birth reg'n and censuses

Name: Margaret Madden
Spouse Surname: Kennedy
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1961
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 1410
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Flick I didn't know her second name,, sorry!

William's ages on the census returns suggest a different generation........and the details for the wives are vastly different also

ALL the children in 1901 are Grandchildren

birth ties nicely with 1891 census
maddie

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Margaret Goughney Villiers
Name: Margaret Goughney Villiers
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1890
Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1890
Father's name: William Edward Villiers
Mother's name: Annie Villiers
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth

Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
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O'Madden Michael Villiers Fulham 1a 629
Roser Frances E Villiers Fulham 1a 629
Villiers Margaret O'Madden Fulham 1a 629
Villiers Thomas L Roser Fulham 1a 629

Thank you everyone, another one solved, you are all ingenius.....
linda.x

perhaps its her grandfater in 1901 and father in 1891
maddie

Name: Margaret Gofney Kennedy
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1889
Death Registration Month/Year: 1979
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 1317


You should have used her very distinctive second name when searching

crikey, if this is her then she was 73 when she remarried....I know us ladies can tell tales and as said in the late 1800's they usually did....but 73?! Plus she is down as a grandaughter. !!!

1891
VILLIERS, William C Head Married M 35 1856 Gas Fitter
Fulham
London VIEW
VILLIERS, Ann Wife Married F 36 1855
Islington
London VIEW
VILLIERS, Charles E Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Holborn
London VIEW
VILLIERS, Edward Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar
Holborn
London VIEW
VILLIERS, John G Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar
Fulham
London VIEW
VILLIERS, Margeret G Daughter F 1 (1Y8M) 1890
Lambeth
London VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
397 Folio:
19 Page:
1

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Lambeth Church Second Enumeration District:
36 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Peter

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
30, Glasshouse Street, Lambeth County:
London

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
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Villiers Margaret Gofney Lambeth 1d 402


Based on census posted above

No marriage on freebmd for Villiers/Madden

1901
VILLIERS, William E Head Married M 68 1833 Gas Fitter
Holborn
London VIEW
VILLIERS, Eliza Wife Married F 67 1834
Orpington
Kent VIEW
VILLIERS, Charles Grand Son Single M 18 1883
Holborn
London VIEW
VILLIERS, Edward Grand Son Single M 16 1885
Holborn
London VIEW
VILLIERS, John Grand Son Single M 14 1887
Fulham
London VIEW
VILLIERS, Margaret Grand Daughter Single F 11 1890
Lambeth
London VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
55 Folio:
129 Page:
43

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North-West Fulham Enumeration District:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Peter

Civil Parish:
Fulham Municipal Borough:
Address:
7, St Peters Terrace, Fulham County:
London

she was married in WANDSWORTH in 1961. I think from Fulham/Chelsea as that's where the groom was from, but her....not really sure. She is down as a widow previous married name was Madden. on marriage cert for 1961 she is down as 63 years.

where did they come from