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For info. Hoped to find brother Othneil marrying in the same area but no luck.

Seems Charles had banns read in London prior to marriage in Hampshire. Charles living at 9 Philip Street ot the Parish. Fanny not of the parish from Shirley, Hampshire


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Charles Othniel Barnes Name: Charles Othniel Barnes
Spouse Name: Fanny Clark
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 06 Sep 1874
Parish: St Mary, Battersea
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth

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I found this but still doesn't help with Elizabeths maiden name. It is only a submitted record so may not be right.


Husband

Othniel Barnes
Pedigree


Birth: About 1848 Portsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1877 , Hampshire, England
Death: 1928 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Burial:

Wife

Elizabeth
Pedigree


Birth: About 1847 Portsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1877 , Hampshire, England
Death:
Burial:


Children
1. Hetty Barnes
Pedigree
Female
Birth: About 1879 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Christening:
Death: About 1945 Worthing, Sussex, England
Burial: Brighton Cremetorium, , Sussex, England

2. Florence Barnes
Pedigree
Female
Birth: 1884 Portsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

3. Winifred Barnes
Pedigree
Female
Birth: 19 MAY 1885 Portsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Christening:
Death: About 1974
Burial:


4. Harry Albert Barnes
Pedigree
Male
Birth: About 1886 , Hampshire, England
Christening:
Death: 17 JUL 1916 , Somme, France
Burial: Thiepval, , Somme, France

The Will of Othniel Barnes late of 1 Loughboro Park buildings Brixton Surrey
gentleman who died 25th december 1881 at the above address was granted to Mary Barnes widow and sole exutrix

£290 4sh

Charles Othniel Barnes 5 Magdala Road South Hayling Hants Draper died 3rf Jan 1892 probate to Fanny Barnes widow
£198 14sh

The Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton, England), Wednesday, October 11, 1871
On the 2nd inst at Kingston Church Portsea Mr.Ralph Ingham Thompson of the London and Provincial Bank Portsea to Martha Ann youngest daughter of Mr. Othniel Barnes of Fratton

Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Wednesday, December 28, 1881;
Deaths
On Sunday morning 23rd inst at the Loughborough Park Buildings Camberwell ,Mr. Othniel Barnes for many years secretary of the King Street Congrgational Church Portsea aged 68yrs

Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, August 15, 1885;
Deaths
Barnes On the 9th inst at 155 Shakespear Street Herne Hill Surrey
Mary widow of the late Mr. Othniel Barnes of Portsea aged 78


Advertising
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, March 12, 1859;
Mr.Othniel Barnes House Agent and Collector
3 Orange Street Portsea

1911 census -
BARNES, Fanny Head Widow F 61 1850 No Occupation Shirley Hants VIEW
BARNES, Lily Clear Daughter Single F 32 1879 Millinery Buyer Herne Hill London VIEW
BARNES, Olive Mary Daughter Single F 21 1890 Hayling Island Hants VIEW
CLARK, Harry Brother Single M 65 1846 No Occupation Shirley Hants VIEW
GRIGGS, Miriam Sister In Law Widow F 70 1841 No Occupation Portsea Hants VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5551 Reference:
RG14PN5551 RG78PN252 RD90 SD2 ED30 SN99

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Kingston and East Southsea Enumeration District:
30 Parish:
Portsmouth

Address:
30 Beach Road Southsea County:
Hampshire

Original census states 8 children born, 1 died

1901 census
BARNES, Fanny Head Widow F 51 1850 Living On Own Means
Shirley
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Alice M Daughter Single F 23 1878 Shop Asst (Naultes)
London VIEW
BARNES, William C Son Single M 20 1881 Upholsterer
London VIEW
BARNES, Jessie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Knitting (Hosiery)
London VIEW
BARNES, Barbara S Daughter Single F 17 1884
London VIEW
BARNES, Adelaide M Daughter Single F 15 1886
London VIEW
BARNES, Olive M Daughter Single F 11 1890
Hayling ID
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
992 Folio:
69 Page:
4

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsea and Landport Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St George

Civil Parish:
Portsmouth Municipal Borough:
Address:
51, St George's Square, Portsmouth, Town County:
Hampshire

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
Barnes Charles Othnick 48 Havant 2b 419

1891 census -
BARNES, Charles O Head Married M 48 1843 Draper Master
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Fanny Wife Married F 42 1849 Milliner
Millbrook
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Alice M Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
BARNES, Lilly C Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
BARNES, William C Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
BARNES, Jessie Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
BARNES, Barbara S Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
BARNES, Adelaide M Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
BARNES, Olive M Daughter F 1 1890
South Hayling
Hampshire VIEW
ILLSLEY, Harriet T Visitor Single F 29 1862 Dress Maker
Biggleswade
Bedfordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
852 Folio:
33 Page:
1

Registration District:
Havant Sub District:
Havant Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
South Hayling

Civil Parish:
South Hayling Municipal Borough:
Address:
5, Magdala Terrace, South Hayling County:
Hampshire

1881 census -
BARNES, Charles Head Married M 38 1843 Clerk
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Fanny Wife Married F 31 1850
Shirley
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Alice Daughter Single F 3 1878
Camberwell
Surrey VIEW
BARNES, Lily Daughter Single F 2 1879
Camberwell
Surrey VIEW
BARNES, William Son Single M 0 1881
Hern Hill
Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
622 Folio:
38 Page:
6

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Brixton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
20, Shakespere Rd, Percy Terrace, Lambeth County:
Surrey

Marriage of Charles O. Barnes, brother of Othneil -

Charles Othniel Barnes
England Marriages, 1538–1973

birth 1842
marriage 19 Sep 1874 —Shirley By Southampton, Hampshire, England
parents: Othniel Barnes
spouse: Fanny Clark

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Charles Othniel Barnes
groom's birth date: 1842
groom's age: 32
bride's name: Fanny Clark
bride's birth date: 1849
bride's age: 25
marriage date: 19 Sep 1874
marriage place: Shirley By Southampton,Hampshire,England
groom's father's name: Othniel Barnes
bride's father's name: William Clark
indexing project (batch) number: M13758-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1041745

Well, Sandra, I have looked using every filter and wildcard that I can and I cannot find a marriage between Othneil and Elizabeth????????????

You could try getting the birth certificate of one of the children? Hopefully, this would give you their mother's maiden name?? Are these the children???

Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
Barnes Winifred Portsea 2b 457

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
Barnes Florence May Portsea 2b 471

Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
Barnes Harry Albert Portsea 2b 465

Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
Barnes Etty Portsea 2b 471

Deaths Jun 1928 (>99%)
Barnes Othneil 80 Portsmouth 2b 668

According to the 1911 census they had been married for 38 years which brings them back to 1873. The only marriage for a Barnes marrying an Elizabeth between 1872 and 1874 in the right district is this one -

Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
Barnes Thomas Portsea I. 2b 627
MEDLYCOTT Elizabeth Portsea 2b 627

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1871 census
BARNES, Othinel Head M 54 1817 Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Mary Wife F 62 1809 Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Charles O Son M 28 1843 Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Martha A Daughter F 26 1845 Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Othinel Son M 21 1850 Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1130 Folio:
101 Page:
1

Registration District:
Portsea Island Sub District:
Kingston Enumeration District:
27 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Portsea Municipal Borough:
Portsmouth Address:
Selbourne Terrace, Portsea, Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

Births Dec 1848 (>99%)
Barnes Othniel Portsea Island 7 167

1911 census
BARNES, Othered Head Married M 63 1848 Newsagent Portsea Hants VIEW
BARNES, Elizabeth Wife Married
38 years F 63 1848 Fratton Hants VIEW
BARNES, Harry Albert Son Single M 22 1889 General Labourer Portsea Hants VIEW
BARNES, Dorothy Grandchild F 8 1903 Portsea Hants VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5589 Reference:
RG14PN5589 RG78PN253 RD90 SD3 ED29 SN140

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsea and Landport Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Portsmouth

Address:
6 Butcher Street Portsea County:
Hampshire

Original census states 5 children born, 1 died

1901 census
BARNES, Othniel Head Married M 53 1848 News Agent
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 54 1847
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Hetty Daughter Single F 22 1879 Housemaid Domestic
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1884 Tailoress
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Winifred Daughter Single F 16 1885 Nurse Girl Domestic
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Henry A Son Single M 15 1886 News Agents Assistant
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
992 Folio:
38 Page:
21

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsea and Landport Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St George

Civil Parish:
Portsmouth Municipal Borough:
Address:
6, Butchers Street, Portsmouth, Town County:
Hampshire

1891 census -
BARNES, Othniel Head Married M 42 1849 Newsagent
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 44 1847
London
Middlesex VIEW
BARNES, Hetty Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Florence M Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Winnifred Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
BARNES, Harry A Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
861 Folio:
32 Page:
14

Registration District:
Portsea Island Sub District:
Portsea Town Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Georges

Civil Parish:
Portsea Municipal Borough:
Portsmouth Address:
14, Butcher Street, Portsea, Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

1881 census

BARNES, Offiniel Head Married M 30 1851 Stationer
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
NEALS, Robert Lodger Married M 56 1825 Naval Pensioner
Hallick
Cheshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1146 Folio:
46 Page:
4

Registration District:
Portsea Island Sub District:
Portsea Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Portsea Municipal Borough:
Address:
14, Butcher Street, Portsea County:
Hampshire

Deaths Dec 1881 (>99%)
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BARNES Othniel 66 Lambeth 1d 352