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AnnCardiff
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13 May 2011 15:12 |
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Vivienne Hankin is also related to the Midgleys and Sagars of Sagar Fold. Viv's grandfather was Henry [Harry] Gordon Midgley [born at Sagar Fold, resided Accrington] and her great grandfather was Amos Midgley [journeyman]. Henry married Florence Townsend whose two brothers died at Gallipoli, one a drummer boy aged 15 years. Florence's father was a regimental recruiting officer for one of the Lancashire regiments. Sagar Fold Farm had a large dairy herd and many other animals. There is a window at the farm which commemorates a stay by Oliver Cromwell. Sagar Fold now a B & B [the barn is now a converted private residence] is overlooked by a large tree covered hill, Kemple End, which today appears well served by a microwave tower. Vivienne is searching for any gaps that can be filled in for this branch of the Midgley family in Lancashire.
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AnnCardiff
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13 May 2011 15:04 |
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? Sagar England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8) birth 01 Mar 1655 —Lancaster, Lancashire parents: Steven Sagar record title: England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8) name: ? Sagar event type: Birth birth date: 01 Mar 1655 birthplace: Lancaster, Lancashire father's name: Steven Sagar record set: RG6_1004
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AnnCardiff
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13 May 2011 15:03 |
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Great Mitton/Mytton Was owned by Whalley Abbey which, prior to the dissolution, controlled sheep farms in this district and West Yorkshire. The church dates from 1270. A manor Hall was built here in 1514 Of the Midgleys' of Blackburnshire, according to Tom Mitchell, many appear to have been named Thomas or Frederick The Midgleys here intermarried with the Sagars and Rothwells3. The Sagars, who were Royalists3 may have links to Sir William Sagar [Segar] d. 1633, Norroy King of Arms [1597-1604] and Garter King of Arms [1607-33]. A Roll of arms is mentioned after Sir William, Segar's Roll. Sir William's great grand-child was Simon Segar 1656-1712. The Sagar family burial plots are at Mitton/Mytton just outside Clitheroe, whilst their main seat was at Sagar Fold. This residence was attacked by Parliamentarians during the Civil War3. Dwelling: Mangnoles Farm 1881 Census Place: Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1342007 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4202 Folio 73 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John SAGAR M 27 M Mytton, York, England Rel: Head Occ: Farm Bailiff Ellen SAGAR M 25 F Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife John J. SAGAR 3 M Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Rosella SAGAR 1 F Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
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AnnCardiff
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13 May 2011 15:01 |
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Midgley of Blackburnshire But by 1322 Thomas had been executed for his open rebellion against Edward II. ... The Sagars, who were Royalists3 may have links to Sir William Sagar [Segar] d. ... The Sagar family burial plots are at Mitton/Mytton just outside ... There is a window at the farm which commemorates a stay by Oliver Cromwell. Sagar ...
midgleywebpages.com/blackburnshire.html - 24k - Similar Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion: S Established in the late 19th century by Henry Sagar and J. T. Meredith ... The family lived at 9 Charles Street, Halifax [1891]; 18 Savile Park, ... They married secretly at Burnley in 1881 and against her father's wishes ...... He entered politics in the 1660s and supported the Royalist cause in the Civil War. ...
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Hannah
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13 May 2011 14:59 |
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By general information I just mean I have a lot of names and numbers and very little context, so by chance perhaps someone with ancestors in common reading this might already have researched the family name and seen information such as what sort of industries they were working in pre-census records and different areas that they ended up in. I had also read something briefly about Sagars being Royalists and fighting against Cromwell. There are certainly a lot of Sagars still in the area.
Thank you
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AnnCardiff
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13 May 2011 13:40 |
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what about what has been found for you? and what do you mean by "general information"? "Thank you" would be nice
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Hannah
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13 May 2011 13:12 |
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I have a lot of members of the Sagar family on my tree going back to 1500 so not necessarily looking for individuals, more if anybody had any general information about the family. They all seem to hail from this small area in Lancashire and I believe had links to weaving mills in the area, as well as going over to the USA.
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AnnCardiff
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12 May 2011 23:02 |
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Baptism: 18 Jan 1829 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England Marianne Sagar - [Child] of John Sagar & Betty Abode: Rough Lea Occupation: Farmer Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 169, Entry 1357 Source: LDS Film 1471024
Baptism: 9 Aug 1829 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England Ellen Sagar - [Child] of William Sagar & Elizabeth Abode: Croft House Occupation: Labourer Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 194, Entry 1555 Source: LDS Film 1471024
Baptism: 27 Dec 1829 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England William Sagar - [Child] of Samuel Sagar & Ann Abode: Primet Bridge Occupation: Labourer Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 206, Entry 1651 Source: LDS Film 1471024
Occupation: Farmer Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 168, Entry 1346 ... Marianne Sagar - [Child] of John Sagar & Betty Abode: Rough Lea ..... Abode: Heyfold Occupation: Hatter Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 177, Entry 1422 ...... Abode: Clitheroe Occupation: Butcher Baptised by: J Henderson ..
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AnnCardiff
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12 May 2011 22:50 |
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St. Bartholomew's Burials 1884 5 March 1884 Thomas Houghton Abode: Briers Farm Billington Age: 80 ... 6 March 1884 William Sagar Gregson Abode: 2 Miller Terrace Preston Age: 2 ... 19 March 1884 Mary Hargreaves Abode: Chatburn Road Clitheroe Age: 67 ... 15 April 1884 Henry Archibald Cooper Abode: 8 Lower Fold Age: 6 weeks - Son of Henry Cooper ...
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AnnCardiff
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12 May 2011 22:50 |
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Townships - Reedley Hallows, Filly Close and New Laund Booth ... ... and the other part to Richard Folds at £2 10s. rent for ten years. (fn. ... 15) The hearth tax return of 1666 shows that Thomas Sagar and Ellis Nutter were each ... The NEW LAUND was in 1459 held by Thomas Harrington at a yearly farm of £5 6s. ... He had been in Clitheroe Castle while it was held for the king, ...
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AnnCardiff
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12 May 2011 22:43 |
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Townships - Marsden | British History Online 16) In 1296 the farm of Little Marsden was 79s. .... the possession of William Hargreaves, and in 1719 was acquired by James Folds of Trawden, ..... Richard Sagar acquired Sidgreave in Marsden in 1548; Farrer, Clitheroe Ct. R. i, 376. ...
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AnnCardiff
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12 May 2011 22:41 |
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Marriage: 6 Oct 1877 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England William Thornber - 24 Labourer Widower of Higham Margaret Sagar - 23 Weaver Spinster of Higham Groom's Father: William Thornber, Ploughman Bride's Father: James Sagar, Warper Witness: Joseph Cryer; Ellen Bond Married by Banns by: William Claytor Curate Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 4, Entry 8 Source: OriMarriage: 26 Aug 1899 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England
John Sagar - 20 Weaver Bachelor of Higham Elizabeth Ellen Stanworth - 21 Winder Spinster of Higham Groom's Father: Thomas Sagar, Weaver Bride's Father: Edward Stanworth, Slater Witness: Howarth Sagar; Sarah Sagar Married by Banns by: Thomas Dillow Curate Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 14, Entry 27 Source: Original Parish Registers ginal Parish RegistersMarriage: 7 Nov 1903 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England
Howarth Sagar - 23 Overlooker Bachelor of Higham Jemima Iveson - 26 Spinster of Brierfield Groom's Father: Thomas Sagar, Farmer & Weaver Bride's Father: William Iveson, Weaver Witness: Wilfred Howden; Matthew Iveson; Jane King Married by Banns by: Francis Gallaher Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 17, Entry 33 Source: Original Parish Registers
Marriage: 1 Jul 1911 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England Fred Archer Sagar - 22 Carter Bachelor of 2 Hollinghurst Ave Higham Emily Linford - 22 Weaver Spinster of 14 Pendle View Higham Groom's Father: Thomas Sagar, Deceased, Farmer Bride's Father: James Linford, Weaver Witness: Albert Sagar; Jane Linford Married by Banns by: William Dowell Curate in Charge Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 27, Entry 53 Source: Original Parish Registers
Marriage: 26 Sep 1911 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England James Sagar - 25 Weaver Bachelor of Pendle View Higham Lydia Ormerod - 26 Weaver Spinster of 8 Meadow View Higham Groom's Father: James Sagar, Gardener Bride's Father: William Thomas Ormerod, Deceased, Builder Witness: Thomas Foulds; Susannah Ormerod Married by Banns by: William Dowell Curate in Charge Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 28, Entry 55 Source: Original Parish Registers
Marriage: 18 Dec 1928 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England John Sagar - 25 Weaver Bachelor of 11 Padiham Road Higham Mildred Stanworth - 21 Weaver Spinster of 3 Town Gate Higham Groom's Father: James Sagar, Butcher Bride's Father: Walter Stanworth, Weaver Witness: Thomas Sagar; Veronica Holden Married by Banns by: F Williams Vicar Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 41, Entry 82 Source: Original Parish Registers
Marriage: 18 Oct 1958 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England Alan Heyworth - 25 Motor Mechanic Bachelor of 72 Moorland Rd Burnley Joan Sagar - 20 Spinster of 2 Hollinhurst View Higham Groom's Father: Thomas Heyworth, Clerk Bride's Father: Thomas Edward Sagar, Labourer Witness: B ? White?; K H Hogarth Married by Banns by: J C Hudson Vicar Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 69, Entry 138 Source: Original Parish Registers
Richard Newby - 23 Dairy Farmer Bachelor of Sagar Hill Farm Higham Nancy Nuttall - 25 Spinster of Sagar ..... Harry Webster - 29 Shop Assistant Bachelor of Jackson Fold Higham ... Married by Banns by: A Lord Rector of St James Clitheroe ...
all the above from this websiteMarried - Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerk Project
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AnnCardiff
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12 May 2011 22:33 |
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Glen Midgley and Jackie Hendrie are researching Maria Sagar of Sagar Fold who married a farmer, William Midgley born about 1827 in Todmorden. He was a Lancashire farmer who at one time held five-hundred acres, they lived at Sagar Fold in the late 1800's. Maria Sager/Sagar married William on the 3rd November 1846 at St. Mary's Church, Clitheroe, Lancashire she was the daughter of Edmund Sagar. Edmund Sagar resided at Alston Hall, in the Ribble valley in the 1841 census.5 They had at least two children, Amos ch. 2nd June 1850 Waddington, Yorkshire and Edmund Segar Midgley b. 1st Oct 1848 Waddington who died 24th May 1922 at Auckland, New Zealand. See Midgleys of New Zealand.
Midgley of Blackburnshire Sagar Fold Farm had a large dairy herd and many other animals. ... Elizabeth MIDGLEY U 17 F Clitheroe, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Assistant At Home ...
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worth a look at this website as there is a very good photograph of the farm on it
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Vera
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12 May 2011 22:32 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAGER, Edmund Head Married M 64 1787 Farmer Milton Yorkshire VIEW SAGER, Mary Wife Married F 60 1791 Farmers Wife Addingham Yorkshire VIEW SAGER, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 28 1823 Farmer Daughter Alston Lancashire VIEW SAGER, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 26 1825 Farmer Daughter Alston Lancashire VIEW SAGER, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Farmer Daughter Alston Lancashire VIEW FOWLAR, Joseph Servant Unmarried M 24 1827 Ag Lab Goosnargh Lancashire VIEW MARSDEN, Robert Servant Unmarried M 20 1831 Ag Lab Aughton Lancashire VIEW WILCOCK, James Servant Unmarried M 17 1834 Ag Lab Alston Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 2268 Folio: 385 Page: 13 Registration District: Preston Sub District: Alston Enumeration District: 7B Ecclesiastical Parish: Manchester Civil Parish: Alston Municipal Borough: Address: Alston Hall, Alston County: REgards Vera
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12 May 2011 22:30 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAGAR, Edmund Head Widower M 74 1787 Farmer Of 154 Acres Mitton Yorkshire VIEW SAGAR, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 38 1823 Alston Lancashire VIEW SAGAR, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 36 1825 Alston Lancashire VIEW SAGAR, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 28 1833 Alston Lancashire VIEW WILCOCK, James Servant Unmarried M 29 1832 Agricultural Servant Dilworth Lancashire VIEW KENYON, Henry Servant Unmarried M 19 1842 Agricultural Servant Balderstone Lancashire VIEW STINGER, Charles Servant Unmarried M 19 1842 Agricultural Servant Alston Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG09 Piece: 3142 Folio: 25 Page: 5 Registration District: Preston Sub District: 4 Alston Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: Ribchester Church Civil Parish: Alston Municipal Borough: Address: Alston Hall, Alston County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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12 May 2011 22:25 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAGAR, Elizabeth Head Single F 68 1823 Farmer Alston Lancashire VIEW SAGAR, Jane Sister Single F 66 1825 Alston Lancashire VIEW MIDGLEY, Maria Sick Nurse Married F 64 1827 Alston Lancashire VIEW MIDGLEY, Mary Niece Single F 36 1855 Slaidburn Yorkshire VIEW FOWLER, Joseph Servant Single M 65 1826 Farm Servant Grimsargh Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 3389 Folio: 76 Page: 2 Registration District: Clitheroe Sub District: Whalley Enumeration District: 7 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Michael Mitton Civil Parish: Great Mitton Municipal Borough: Address: Sagar Fold, Great Mitton County: Lancashire
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12 May 2011 22:24 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAGAR, Elizabeth Head Single F 78 1823 Farmer Ribchester Lancashire VIEW SAGAR, Jane Sister Single F 76 1825 Farmer Ribchester Lancashire VIEW MIDGLEY, Mary Niece Single F 46 1855 Domestic Servant Slaidburn Yorkshire VIEW FOWLER, Joseph Servant Single M 74 1827 Hind On Farm Preston Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 3898 Folio: 72 Page: 2 Registration District: Clitheroe Sub District: Whalley Enumeration District: 6 Ecclesiastical Parish: All Hallows Civil Parish: Great Mitton (York Wr) Municipal Borough: Address: Sagar Fold, Great Mitton (York Wr), Mitton County: Lancashire egards Vera
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12 May 2011 22:20 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12 SAGER, Elizabeth Head Single F 88 1823 Employer Alston Lankshir VIEW 12 MIDGLEY, Mary C Niece Single F 56 1855 Dairy Worker Newton Yorkshire VIEW 12 FOWLER, Joseph Servant Single M 84 1827 Army Pener Elston Lankshir VIEW 12 MARSDEN, Robert S Servant Single M 23 1888 Farm Labour Lankshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 24993 Reference: RG14PN24993 RG78PN1431 RD473 SD5 ED5 SN12 Registration District: Clitheroe Sub District: Whalley Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Little Mitton, Henthorn and Coldcoats Great Mitton Address: Sagar Fold Mitton Whalley County: Lancashire Regards Vera
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PricklyHolly
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12 May 2011 22:10 |
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Hi Hannah, please can you be more specific about the information you are looking for?
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lancashireAnn
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12 May 2011 22:05 |
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if you want any precise info Hannah you need to give us some idea of names and dates and what sort of info you are hoping to find.
have you tried the site lan-opc.org.uk
just a general search for the name Sagar (or similar) gives 3198 matches!
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