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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 May 2011 15:12

Vivienne Hankin is also related to the Midgleys and Sagars of Sagar Fold. Viv's grandfather was Henry [Harry] Gordon Midgley [born at Sagar Fold, resided Accrington] and her great grandfather was Amos Midgley [journeyman]. Henry married Florence Townsend whose two brothers died at Gallipoli, one a drummer boy aged 15 years. Florence's father was a regimental recruiting officer for one of the Lancashire regiments. Sagar Fold Farm had a large dairy herd and many other animals. There is a window at the farm which commemorates a stay by Oliver Cromwell. Sagar Fold now a B & B [the barn is now a converted private residence] is overlooked by a large tree covered hill, Kemple End, which today appears well served by a microwave tower. Vivienne is searching for any gaps that can be filled in for this branch of the Midgley family in Lancashire.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 May 2011 15:04

? Sagar
England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)

birth 01 Mar 1655 —Lancaster, Lancashire
parents: Steven Sagar

record title: England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)
name: ? Sagar
event type: Birth
birth date: 01 Mar 1655
birthplace: Lancaster, Lancashire
father's name: Steven Sagar
record set: RG6_1004

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 May 2011 15:03

Great Mitton/Mytton
Was owned by Whalley Abbey which, prior to the dissolution, controlled sheep farms in this district and West Yorkshire. The church dates from 1270. A manor Hall was built here in 1514
Of the Midgleys' of Blackburnshire, according to Tom Mitchell, many appear to have been named Thomas or Frederick
The Midgleys here intermarried with the Sagars and Rothwells3. The Sagars, who were Royalists3 may have links to Sir William Sagar [Segar] d. 1633, Norroy King of Arms [1597-1604] and Garter King of Arms [1607-33]. A Roll of arms is mentioned after Sir William, Segar's Roll. Sir William's great grand-child was Simon Segar 1656-1712. The Sagar family burial plots are at Mitton/Mytton just outside Clitheroe, whilst their main seat was at Sagar Fold. This residence was attacked by Parliamentarians during the Civil War3.
Dwelling: Mangnoles Farm
1881 Census Place: Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1342007 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4202 Folio 73 Page 7
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John SAGAR M 27 M Mytton, York, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Farm Bailiff
Ellen SAGAR M 25 F Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Rel: Wife
John J. SAGAR 3 M Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Rosella SAGAR 1 F Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Rel: Daur

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 May 2011 15:01

Midgley of Blackburnshire
But by 1322 Thomas had been executed for his open rebellion against Edward II. ... The Sagars, who were Royalists3 may have links to Sir William Sagar [Segar] d. ... The Sagar family burial plots are at Mitton/Mytton just outside ... There is a window at the farm which commemorates a stay by Oliver Cromwell. Sagar ...

midgleywebpages.com/blackburnshire.html - 24k - Similar
Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion: S
Established in the late 19th century by Henry Sagar and J. T. Meredith ... The family lived at 9 Charles Street, Halifax [1891]; 18 Savile Park, ... They married secretly at Burnley in 1881 and against her father's wishes ...... He entered politics in the 1660s and supported the Royalist cause in the Civil War. ...

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Hannah

Hannah Report 13 May 2011 14:59

By general information I just mean I have a lot of names and numbers and very little context, so by chance perhaps someone with ancestors in common reading this might already have researched the family name and seen information such as what sort of industries they were working in pre-census records and different areas that they ended up in. I had also read something briefly about Sagars being Royalists and fighting against Cromwell. There are certainly a lot of Sagars still in the area.

Thank you


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 May 2011 13:40

what about what has been found for you? and what do you mean by "general information"? "Thank you" would be nice

Hannah

Hannah Report 13 May 2011 13:12

I have a lot of members of the Sagar family on my tree going back to 1500 so not necessarily looking for individuals, more if anybody had any general information about the family. They all seem to hail from this small area in Lancashire and I believe had links to weaving mills in the area, as well as going over to the USA.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 May 2011 23:02

Baptism: 18 Jan 1829 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Marianne Sagar - [Child] of John Sagar & Betty
Abode: Rough Lea
Occupation: Farmer
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 169, Entry 1357
Source: LDS Film 1471024


Baptism: 9 Aug 1829 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Ellen Sagar - [Child] of William Sagar & Elizabeth
Abode: Croft House
Occupation: Labourer
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 194, Entry 1555
Source: LDS Film 1471024

Baptism: 27 Dec 1829 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
William Sagar - [Child] of Samuel Sagar & Ann
Abode: Primet Bridge
Occupation: Labourer
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 206, Entry 1651
Source: LDS Film 1471024



Occupation: Farmer Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 168, Entry 1346 ... Marianne Sagar - [Child] of John Sagar & Betty Abode: Rough Lea ..... Abode: Heyfold Occupation: Hatter Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1831, Page 177, Entry 1422 ...... Abode: Clitheroe Occupation: Butcher Baptised by: J Henderson ..

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Ann - Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerk Project
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Colne/stbartholomew/baptisms_1829-... - 233k - Similar








AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 May 2011 22:50

St. Bartholomew's Burials 1884
5 March 1884 Thomas Houghton Abode: Briers Farm Billington Age: 80 ... 6 March 1884 William Sagar Gregson Abode: 2 Miller Terrace Preston Age: 2 ... 19 March 1884 Mary Hargreaves Abode: Chatburn Road Clitheroe Age: 67 ... 15 April 1884 Henry Archibald Cooper Abode: 8 Lower Fold Age: 6 weeks - Son of Henry Cooper ...

www.great-harwood.org.uk/about/History/Church%20Recor... - 56k - Similar

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 May 2011 22:50

Townships - Reedley Hallows, Filly Close and New Laund Booth ...
... and the other part to Richard Folds at £2 10s. rent for ten years. (fn. ... 15) The hearth tax return of 1666 shows that Thomas Sagar and Ellis Nutter were each ... The NEW LAUND was in 1459 held by Thomas Harrington at a yearly farm of £5 6s. ... He had been in Clitheroe Castle while it was held for the king, ...

www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=53158 - 108k - Similar

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 May 2011 22:43

Townships - Marsden | British History Online
16) In 1296 the farm of Little Marsden was 79s. .... the possession of William Hargreaves, and in 1719 was acquired by James Folds of Trawden, ..... Richard Sagar acquired Sidgreave in Marsden in 1548; Farrer, Clitheroe Ct. R. i, 376. ...

www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=53172 - 169k - Similar

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 May 2011 22:41

Marriage: 6 Oct 1877 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England
William Thornber - 24 Labourer Widower of Higham
Margaret Sagar - 23 Weaver Spinster of Higham
Groom's Father: William Thornber, Ploughman
Bride's Father: James Sagar, Warper
Witness: Joseph Cryer; Ellen Bond
Married by Banns by: William Claytor Curate
Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 4, Entry 8
Source: OriMarriage: 26 Aug 1899 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England


John Sagar - 20 Weaver Bachelor of Higham
Elizabeth Ellen Stanworth - 21 Winder Spinster of Higham
Groom's Father: Thomas Sagar, Weaver
Bride's Father: Edward Stanworth, Slater
Witness: Howarth Sagar; Sarah Sagar
Married by Banns by: Thomas Dillow Curate
Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 14, Entry 27
Source: Original Parish Registers
ginal Parish RegistersMarriage: 7 Nov 1903 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England

Howarth Sagar - 23 Overlooker Bachelor of Higham
Jemima Iveson - 26 Spinster of Brierfield
Groom's Father: Thomas Sagar, Farmer & Weaver
Bride's Father: William Iveson, Weaver
Witness: Wilfred Howden; Matthew Iveson; Jane King
Married by Banns by: Francis Gallaher
Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 17, Entry 33
Source: Original Parish Registers

Marriage: 1 Jul 1911 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England
Fred Archer Sagar - 22 Carter Bachelor of 2 Hollinghurst Ave Higham
Emily Linford - 22 Weaver Spinster of 14 Pendle View Higham
Groom's Father: Thomas Sagar, Deceased, Farmer
Bride's Father: James Linford, Weaver
Witness: Albert Sagar; Jane Linford
Married by Banns by: William Dowell Curate in Charge
Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 27, Entry 53
Source: Original Parish Registers

Marriage: 26 Sep 1911 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England
James Sagar - 25 Weaver Bachelor of Pendle View Higham
Lydia Ormerod - 26 Weaver Spinster of 8 Meadow View Higham
Groom's Father: James Sagar, Gardener
Bride's Father: William Thomas Ormerod, Deceased, Builder
Witness: Thomas Foulds; Susannah Ormerod
Married by Banns by: William Dowell Curate in Charge
Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 28, Entry 55
Source: Original Parish Registers

Marriage: 18 Dec 1928 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England
John Sagar - 25 Weaver Bachelor of 11 Padiham Road Higham
Mildred Stanworth - 21 Weaver Spinster of 3 Town Gate Higham
Groom's Father: James Sagar, Butcher
Bride's Father: Walter Stanworth, Weaver
Witness: Thomas Sagar; Veronica Holden
Married by Banns by: F Williams Vicar
Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 41, Entry 82
Source: Original Parish Registers

Marriage: 18 Oct 1958 St John the Evangelist, Higham, Lancashire, England
Alan Heyworth - 25 Motor Mechanic Bachelor of 72 Moorland Rd Burnley
Joan Sagar - 20 Spinster of 2 Hollinhurst View Higham
Groom's Father: Thomas Heyworth, Clerk
Bride's Father: Thomas Edward Sagar, Labourer
Witness: B ? White?; K H Hogarth
Married by Banns by: J C Hudson Vicar
Register: Marriages 1875 - 2009, Page 69, Entry 138
Source: Original Parish Registers



Richard Newby - 23 Dairy Farmer Bachelor of Sagar Hill Farm Higham Nancy Nuttall - 25 Spinster of Sagar ..... Harry Webster - 29 Shop Assistant Bachelor of Jackson Fold Higham ... Married by Banns by: A Lord Rector of St James Clitheroe ...


all the above from this websiteMarried - Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerk Project

www.lan-opc.org.uk/Higham/stjohn/marriages_1875-1960.... - 97k - Similar















AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 May 2011 22:33

Glen Midgley and Jackie Hendrie are researching Maria Sagar of Sagar Fold who married a farmer, William Midgley born about 1827 in Todmorden. He was a Lancashire farmer who at one time held five-hundred acres, they lived at Sagar Fold in the late 1800's. Maria Sager/Sagar married William on the 3rd November 1846 at St. Mary's Church, Clitheroe, Lancashire she was the daughter of Edmund Sagar. Edmund Sagar resided at Alston Hall, in the Ribble valley in the 1841 census.5 They had at least two children, Amos ch. 2nd June 1850 Waddington, Yorkshire and Edmund Segar Midgley b. 1st Oct 1848 Waddington who died 24th May 1922 at Auckland, New Zealand. See Midgleys of New Zealand.


Midgley of Blackburnshire
Sagar Fold Farm had a large dairy herd and many other animals. ... Elizabeth MIDGLEY U 17 F Clitheroe, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Assistant At Home ...

midgleywebpages.com/blackburnshire.html - 24k - Similar


worth a look at this website as there is a very good photograph of the farm on it

Vera

Vera Report 12 May 2011 22:32

1851

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SAGER, Edmund Head Married M 64 1787 Farmer
Milton
Yorkshire VIEW
SAGER, Mary Wife Married F 60 1791 Farmers Wife
Addingham
Yorkshire VIEW
SAGER, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 28 1823 Farmer Daughter
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
SAGER, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 26 1825 Farmer Daughter
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
SAGER, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Farmer Daughter
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
FOWLAR, Joseph Servant Unmarried M 24 1827 Ag Lab
Goosnargh
Lancashire VIEW
MARSDEN, Robert Servant Unmarried M 20 1831 Ag Lab
Aughton
Lancashire VIEW
WILCOCK, James Servant Unmarried M 17 1834 Ag Lab
Alston
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2268 Folio:
385 Page:
13

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
Alston Enumeration District:
7B Ecclesiastical Parish:
Manchester

Civil Parish:
Alston Municipal Borough:
Address:
Alston Hall, Alston County:


REgards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 12 May 2011 22:30

1861

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SAGAR, Edmund Head Widower M 74 1787 Farmer Of 154 Acres
Mitton
Yorkshire VIEW
SAGAR, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 38 1823
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
SAGAR, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 36 1825
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
SAGAR, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 28 1833
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
WILCOCK, James Servant Unmarried M 29 1832 Agricultural Servant
Dilworth
Lancashire VIEW
KENYON, Henry Servant Unmarried M 19 1842 Agricultural Servant
Balderstone
Lancashire VIEW
STINGER, Charles Servant Unmarried M 19 1842 Agricultural Servant
Alston
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
3142 Folio:
25 Page:
5

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
4 Alston Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Ribchester Church

Civil Parish:
Alston Municipal Borough:
Address:
Alston Hall, Alston County:
Lancashire

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 12 May 2011 22:25

1891

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SAGAR, Elizabeth Head Single F 68 1823 Farmer
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
SAGAR, Jane Sister Single F 66 1825
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
MIDGLEY, Maria Sick Nurse Married F 64 1827
Alston
Lancashire VIEW
MIDGLEY, Mary Niece Single F 36 1855
Slaidburn
Yorkshire VIEW
FOWLER, Joseph Servant Single M 65 1826 Farm Servant
Grimsargh
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3389 Folio:
76 Page:
2

Registration District:
Clitheroe Sub District:
Whalley Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Michael Mitton

Civil Parish:
Great Mitton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Sagar Fold, Great Mitton County:
Lancashire



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Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 12 May 2011 22:24

1901

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SAGAR, Elizabeth Head Single F 78 1823 Farmer
Ribchester
Lancashire VIEW
SAGAR, Jane Sister Single F 76 1825 Farmer
Ribchester
Lancashire VIEW
MIDGLEY, Mary Niece Single F 46 1855 Domestic Servant
Slaidburn
Yorkshire VIEW
FOWLER, Joseph Servant Single M 74 1827 Hind On Farm
Preston
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3898 Folio:
72 Page:
2

Registration District:
Clitheroe Sub District:
Whalley Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Hallows

Civil Parish:
Great Mitton (York Wr) Municipal Borough:
Address:
Sagar Fold, Great Mitton (York Wr), Mitton County:
Lancashire


egards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 12 May 2011 22:20

Any Good....


1911

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12 SAGER, Elizabeth Head Single F 88 1823 Employer Alston Lankshir VIEW
12 MIDGLEY, Mary C Niece Single F 56 1855 Dairy Worker Newton Yorkshire VIEW
12 FOWLER, Joseph Servant Single M 84 1827 Army Pener Elston Lankshir VIEW
12 MARSDEN, Robert S Servant Single M 23 1888 Farm Labour Lankshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24993 Reference:
RG14PN24993 RG78PN1431 RD473 SD5 ED5 SN12

Registration District:
Clitheroe Sub District:
Whalley Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Little Mitton, Henthorn and Coldcoats Great Mitton

Address:
Sagar Fold Mitton Whalley County:
Lancashire

Regards Vera

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 May 2011 22:10

Hi Hannah, please can you be more specific about the information you are looking for?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 12 May 2011 22:05

if you want any precise info Hannah you need to give us some idea of names and dates and what sort of info you are hoping to find.

have you tried the site lan-opc.org.uk

just a general search for the name Sagar (or similar) gives 3198 matches!