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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 10:49 |
According to census records, she was born in Barking, Essex and her DOB years seem to vary through census records/marriage banns, etc.... from 1816-1820.
I have also tried varients on her name....Jane Sarah, Sarah Jane, etc.....
On her marriage banns entry for her marriage to William Hughes in 1853, it lists her father as "William Nightingale". I am struggling to find more details on her father and am yet to find out anything about her mother.
Also, before she married William Hughes, she had children called: Charles W, George Joseph and Maria Agnes. In the 1851 census, these children have the surname "Nightingale", but in the 1861 census after her marriage to William Hughes in 1853, the children still at home now have the surname "Hughes".
I'm struggling to find information on any previous marriages that Jane may have had and also on who the father of the 3 children is.
If anyone can help me out here, I would be very grateful, as always!
SJ
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Jonesey
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21 May 2011 11:02 |
Might this be related?
Name: George Joseph Hughes Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1847 Registration district: Stepney Registration County: London, Middlesex Volume: 2 Page: 514
1851 census for reference
Name: George Joseph Nightingale Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Mother's name: Jane Sart Nightingale Gender: M (Male) Where born: Radcliffe, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address
Occupation
Condition as to marriage
Disability
View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Church ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 71 Piece: 1541 Folio: 673 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Jane Sart Nightingale 33 Chalres Walter Nightingale 5 George Joseph Nightingale 3 Mariah Agnes Nightingale 1 Ann Elmer Nightingale 38 Tinatham Perry 11
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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 11:09 |
Quite possibly, Jonesy....
George Joseph is my Great Great Grandfather.
Now I'm even more confused!!! So he was born a "Hughes" then a few years later in the census he was a "Nightingale" and then 10 years later he was a "Hughes" again?!?!?!
SJ
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PricklyHolly
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21 May 2011 11:09 |
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GI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print Jane Sarah Nightengale Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 12 APR 1818 St Margaret, Barking, Essex, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: William Nightengale Family Mother: Jane
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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 11:12 |
Thanks so much for that PricklyHolly! :-)
That's just the sort of information I've been after!
SJ
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Jonesey
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21 May 2011 11:14 |
On her 1853 marriage certificate Jane Sarah is described as a spinster so unlikely that she was married previously.
1841???
Name: Jane Nightingale Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Essex, England Civil parish: Barking Hundred: Becontree County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address
Occupation
View image Registration district: Romford Sub-registration district: Barking Town Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 323 Book: 1 Folio: 39 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Jane Nightingale 20
I suspect that this may be her mother. There are several other Nightingale's with her and several family forenames seem to match with Jane Sarah's own children's forenames
1841 Name: Jane Nightingale Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Female Civil parish: Barking Hundred: Becontree County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Wife of fisherman
View image Registration district: Romford Sub-registration district: Barking Town Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 323 Book: 1 Folio: 11 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Jane Nightingale 45
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PollyPoppet
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21 May 2011 11:17 |
possible for parents
1851 census
Name William Nightengale Age 56 Estimated Year of Birth 1795 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Vergen Greenwh Hospital Address West Norfolk Place District Greenwich, Greenwich East Parish Greenwich Administrative County Kent Birth Place Blackdean Birth County Lancashire in house william head 56 jane wife 56 HO 107 / 1587
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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 11:18 |
I thought as much! I think the surname changes of her children kept confusing me and was leading me to believe that she may have been married before.
The 1841 entry you've posted above is again yet more proof that her DOB years keep changing through entries, leading to MORE confusion!!
SJ
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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 11:20 |
Thank you PollyPoppet!
That's also a great help! :-)
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PricklyHolly
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21 May 2011 11:30 |
???
1841 England Census about Jane Nightingale Name: Jane Nightingale Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Female Civil parish: Barking Hundred: Becontree County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Romford Sub-registration district: Barking Town Household Members: Name Age Jane Nightingale 45 With her is........
Sarah Nightingale 21 1820 Essex Betsey Nightingale 16 1825 Essex Maria Nightingale 12 1829 Essex William Nightinglae 9 1832 Essex
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PricklyHolly
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21 May 2011 11:33 |
1841 England Census about Jane Nightingale Name: Jane Nightingale Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Essex, England Civil parish: Barking Hundred: Becontree County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Romford Sub-registration district: Barking Town Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 323 Book: 1 Folio: 39 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Jane Nightingale 20
Edit: Oops, i didn't notice that you had already posted this Jonesey!
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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 11:38 |
Prickly...
Are those 1841 extracts from different entries, or just the next page?
If not, then I'm wondering if the Sarah on the first one *could* be Jane Sarah, as I know it's not uncommon for people to be referred to by their middle names in those days......
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Jonesey
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21 May 2011 11:41 |
To add to the confusion or not
Births Mar 1850 (>99%) Hughes Maria Agnes Bethnal Gn 2 49
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PricklyHolly
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21 May 2011 11:44 |
They are different entries Sarah.
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PricklyHolly
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21 May 2011 11:51 |
GI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print Sarah Margaret Nightingale Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 23 APR 1820 St Margaret, Barking, Essex, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: William Nightingale Family Mother: Jane
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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 12:03 |
Ha ha ha ha!!!
Jonesy, no confusion there! I have the birth dates, etc.... for the children.
Thanks, Prickly!
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Sarah-Jayne
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21 May 2011 12:04 |
Ah, so Sarah is a sister of Jane Sarah's then?
Thanks again Prickly! ;-)
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PricklyHolly
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21 May 2011 12:10 |
You are welcome. x
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jolee
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31 May 2011 20:17 |
Hi, I have been to Barking and foundnthe following
Jane Sarah Nightingale baptised 12/04/1818 parents William and Jane Nightingale
Elizabeth Ann Nightingale baptised 27/03/1825 same parents
Maria Louise Nightingale baptised 01/02/1829
William George Nightingale baptised 08/05/1832 parents William and Jane Margaret.
But at the same time a daughter Caroline Rosetta Nightingale same parents baptised with William. As William and Jane seem to have their children baptised soon after birth this could mean he was a twin, but I can't find any other reference to her anywhere.
Also found buried in St Margarets Churchyard William Nightingale late of St Pauls Shadwell who departed this life November 15th 1778 aged 53 Mrs Ann Nightingale who died 21/06/1787 age 65.
I have copies of this so if you PM me with your email address I will send them to you.
Regards Joan.
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