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Thanks Mel

Yes that is the right death cert that i have.

It is on ancestry as well.

Thank you Zena

I still can't find any of them on the 1841 census either. Sorry

Mel

Hannah died at Back of 124 Nelson St West 6 March 1863.

Elizabeth Moore present at death Back of 124 Nelson St West Birmingham.

Registered 7 March.

Think the cause of death was Natural Decay.
Aged 76

Hi Mel

Yes i have death cert she died in 1863 back of Nelson st Birmingham aged 76 widow of William a shoemaker Elizabeth Moore the informant her daughter.

Yes that the marriage i believe is right.

Thank you Zena

WILLIAM THORNES Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH SKELT Family
Marriage: 25 NOV 1811 Kingswinford, Stafford, England


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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Hannah died in 1863 do you have the death cert please?

Thank you Vera for taking your time looking for me its much appreicated.

Hopefully one day they might pop out when not trying so hard to find them.

Have a good day

Thank you Zena

Zena,

Sorry, I just cannot find either William or Hannah on the 1841.

Regards Vera

Thank you so much Vera.

Thank you Zena

Still no luck on the 1841 for Hannah or William....still looking.

Regards Vera

Thank you Vera i can discount that family from the 1841 census now as Hannah is in Leicester in 1851 census.

Thank you Zena

Hi Vera thank you for that in the 1851 she is down as Thomas as well born Staffordshire with son Ephraim living in Leicester but back in Birmingham by 1861 census.

Thank you Zena

1851

same family as 1841


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THOMAS, William Head Married M 70 1781 Butcher
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
THOMAS, Hannah Wife Married F 68 1783
Welton
Warwickshire VIEW
THOMAS, John Son Unmarried M 32 1819 Butcher
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
OWEN, Charles Servant Unmarried M 27 1824 Laborer
VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2055 Folio:
282 Page:
4

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
Saint Philip Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Jude

Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Birmingham Address:
141/2, Hill Street, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire



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Regards Vera

Hi Mel

Hannah was born in Staffordshire in 1786.

Children i believe are.

Edwin 1812 born Staffordshire living in Birmingham in 1841 under name Thorns
George 1817 born East indies living in Birmingham in1841 under name Thorne
Alfred 1820 born East Indies living in Birmingham in 1841 under name Thorn
Elizabeth not sure were she was born but living with Edwin in the 1841 census she married now Elizabeth Moore.
Ephraim born 1826 living in Staffiordhire in 1841 under the name of Thorup.
Thank you Zena

On the 1861 she is down as Hannah Thomas ( cook) unfortunately does not give place of birth.

Regards Vera

Do you know if Hannah was born in Warwickshire please?

Do you know any of the names of his children please?

No your not silly as it has been miscript as Thomas as well.

Thank you Zena

Oh silly me I read the name as Thomas not Thorn/e/s

Thank you Glitter baby and Mel i seen that one but discounted it as his occupation has always been shoemaker on the certs i have i know i shouldnt i will take another look at it thank you.

Zena

HO107; Piece 1146; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Birmingham; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 5; Page: 2;

1841 census

Wiliam 55 Butcher?
Hannah 55
John 20

Address Worcester St. Birmingham