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I was a little unclear there, wasn't I?

What I meant was that it might be worth getting in touch with the person who has corrected the name, as they're more than likely related. ;)

And you're so right -- Isaac is on the original!

Oh, look how ridiculous. Ancestry has hived these people off into a separate household. Sarah Ann, aged 4, is "daughter" ... not "Captain". Ye gods.


Name: Isaac Hopkins
[Isaac Jones] (added by the Ancestry system)
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Sarah Ane Hopkins
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Cockfield
County/Island: Durham

Sarah Ane Hopkins 4
Isaac Hopkins 2
Herbert Beatcham 20 - son-in-law
John George Jones 24
Jane Hopkins 21 - wife - it says Jones (same user has corrected)
Elisa Hotkin Hopkins 1 - it says Jones


What an insane dog's breakfast. I still don't know why I couldn't find Isaac Hopkins on a search for him!

JanneyCanuck,

Sorry I do not know who has corrected Isaac Hopkins Snr,

Isaac hopkins jr is on the Original image for 1891


Regards
Val

JaneyCanuck,

Thank You very much

I think Frederick Hopkins was in Canada about the same time as Isaac, Frederick Hopkins was the Twin of John Hopkins

I will take a look at the web site's


Regards
Val

Do you know the person who has corrected the name in 1891 at Ancestry?

Name: Hace Hopkins
[Isaac Hopkins]
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Hopkins
Where born: Nk, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Cockfield
Town: Cockfield
County/Island: Durham

Hace Hopkins 49
Jane Hopkins 44
Joseph William Hopkins 17
John Hopkins 13
Frederick Hopkins 13
Thomas Hopkins 10
Harriet Emma Hopkins 8
George Hopkins 6

(Where's Isaac?)

Just looking for brothers' names. There's no matching Joseph, Thomas or George in Canadian WWI deaths, so the brother who died in WWI must have been in the UK military. That makes sense, as that's why it would mention next of kin being in Canada.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem


Here we are

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=793296

Name: HOPKINS, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 36
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Service No: 14035
Additional information:
Son of Isaac and Jane Hopkins; husband of Sarah Ann Hopkins, of 12, St. Paul's Terrace, Ryhope, Co. Durham.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 2 C.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

Youre welcome....happy reading ;)

Ginny

I have received the records

They are great

Thank you

Val

Ive emailed those records I posted over to you

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DetEcTive

Thank You for your help

I will take a look

Regards
Val

Had hoped that the Military record Ginny found would give his arrival into Canada date, but unfortunately not.

It does give a dob of 29 Apr 1888 in Cockfield, England.

On a tree on Ancestry (Lee Hopkins family tree), there is a resident date of 1916 for Hamilton Ontario, with the note
*In a report on his brothers death in WW1 his address along with twins Fredrick and John was in Canada *

So it might be worth searching the CWGC site for relevant Hopkins deaths, or WW1 UK military records.

That tree does not have any passenger lists attached.

Ginny,

Yes thats him

His mother is Jane Beacham


Regards
Val

Margee,

Thank You very much, appreciate your help



Regards
Val

Looks like Isaac married again


Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928
about Isaac Hopkins Name: Isaac Hopkins
Birth Place: England
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Father Name: Isaac Hopkins
Mother Name: Jane Beacham
Spouse Name: Jessie Shepherd
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse Birth Place: Scotland
Spouse Father Name: James Shepherd
Spouse Mother Name: Annie Stewart
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1922
Marriage Location: Wentworth
Marriage County: Wentworth
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_630


1901 England Census
about Isaac Hopkins Name: Isaac Hopkins
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: Isaac Hopkins
Mother's name: Jane Hopkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Crook S Side, Durham, England

Civil parish: Crook and Billy Row
Ecclesiastical parish: Stanley St Thomas
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Piece: 4653
Folio: 211
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Hopkins 59
Jane Hopkins 54
Thomas Hopkins 20
Harriet Emma Hopkins 18
George Hopkins 16
Sarah Ann Hopkins 15
Isaac Hopkins 12
Geo Hy Dixon 29

An Isaac Hopkins enlisted for WW1 in Canada. He was born 29 April 1888, Cockfield, england. Next-of-kin was wife Jane Hopkins, Paris, Canada. (Paris is in Ontario). He enlisted 3 Sep. 1915, Niagara, Ontario.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html

Ginny

Have Pm'd you



Many Thanks
Val

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Isaac Hopkins Name: Isaac Hopkins
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1888
Birth Location: Cockfield, England
Relative: Jane Hopkins
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 164106

DetEcTive

Thank You

Yes that could be him

as he has a brother called Frederick Hopkins


Regards
Val

Val

If you want that record I can email it to you and there are others such as Army records

You'll need to PM me your email address and I may not get to it until tomorrow as I am off out soon

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Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945

Isaac Hopkins
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1912
Age: 24 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Haverford
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: F Hopkins
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: Durham, England

Family not with him - contact is Mrs Hopkins at an address in Sunderland. He was a coalminer, but there is no mention of Durham on the image!

edit - 31 Windsor Terrace

Ginny

Thanks for the added info


Regards
Val

DetEcTive

Thank You

that could be him

I appreciate your help


Regards
Val