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Avis Matthews nee Sims b 1828 Sussex

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David

David Report 2 Jun 2011 12:04

My G Grandfather Edward Matthews b 11 May 1825, Bosham, Sussex was married to Avis Sims Oct-Dec 1845 in Westbourne, Sussex. He was also married to Charlotte Irish in 1872. I cannot find a death record for Avis Sims - can anyone help me? Did he divorce Avis?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Jun 2011 12:09

Possible?

Deaths Sep 1857 (>99%)
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Matthews Avis Belper 7b 275

Edit: Evidently not, she's still alive in 1861.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 12:22

Not that one.........She was alive in 1861............



1861 England Census
about Edward Matthews
Name: Edward Matthews
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Avis Matthews
Gender: Male
Where born: Bosham, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Chidham
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Matthews 39
Avis Matthews 33
Richard Matthews 12
Esther Matthews 10
Fanny Matthews 9
Thomas Matthews 6
John Matthews 3
Charles Matthews 8 MO
Harry Hawkins 19

Edward cliams to be a Widower in the 1871 census. Their last child was born 1860/1861......so if she did die (I can't find a death entry) it would be between 1861...1871.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Jun 2011 12:34

Can't find the 2nd marriage you refer to. Could it be this one?

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
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HAWKINS Charlotte Chichester 2b 667
MATTHEWS Edward Chichester 2b 667

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 12:37

Where did the name Irish come from?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 12:50

??

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

AVIS SYMS Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
21 JUN 1829 Bosham, Sussex, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: RICHD SYMS Family
Mother: OLIVE

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Jun 2011 13:27

On the 1881 census Matthew has stepchildren with surname Hockin (Hawkins?) so Charlotte was evidently previously married.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Jun 2011 13:33

Ah, on the 1871 census Charlotte is married to Samuel Hockin and there is a Alice Irish listed as wife's daughter.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 13:39

That would explain it ..............

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
Hockin Samuel Westhampnett 2b 599
IRISH Charlotte Westhampnett 2b 599

Mary

Mary Report 2 Jun 2011 14:30

??
Eavis Himes 1828 Bosham Sussex says unmarried and a boarder/general servant.
1871 Warblington Hampshire D8 > 6Can't find anyone of this name any other time.

Maryb

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 15:18

Gosh that was a good find Mary!!


1871 England Census
about Eavis Himes
Name: Eavis Himes
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Bosham, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Warblington
Town: Warblington
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Havant
Sub-registration district: Havant
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Weeler 41 Born Bosham, Sussex!! A connection??
Harriett Weeler 40
Arthur Weeler 19
Eliza Weeler 16
William Weeler 13
Caroline Weeler 11
James Weeler 8
Mary Weeler 4
Charley Weeler 2
Eavis Himes 43 (Boarder) Unmarried............General Servant

Mary

Mary Report 2 Jun 2011 15:35

It could be her,do you think.
Abraham Wheeler was also from Bosham.

It is strange she isn't showing up on any other records.

Maryb

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 15:37

I just spotted that and added it to my post.

She is not with that family after 1871.

Astra

Astra Report 2 Jun 2011 15:54

I think this may be the one you found in 1871.

1881

HINE, Avis Servant Head Widow F 57 1824 Cook
Bosham
Surrey VIEW
LOVEDAY, Maria Servant Single F 23 1858 Housemaid
Blofield
Norfolk VIEW

Civil Parish:
St Marylebone Municipal Borough:
Address:
23, Henrietta St, St Marylebone County:
Middlesex


Mary

Mary Report 2 Jun 2011 16:02

Avis Wheeler @ 1826 in
1841 Binerton Sussex D 2 > 2
Westbourne and Singleton.

Could be the one in 1881 Astra.,in 1891 Avis Hine a visitor 1823 with Eliza Wheeler born 1819 Bosham and Mary A Hatchard born 1829 Bosham says sister to Eliza.

Maryb

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 16:06

How about this..........

Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
HINE Avis 86 Chichester 2b 234

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 16:09


1891 England Census
about Eliza Wheeler
Name: Eliza Wheeler
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bosham, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Sub Deanery
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Chichester
Sub-registration district: Chichester
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 846
Folio: 57
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Wheeler 72
Avis Hine 68
Mary A Hatchard 62


This would fit with the death entry wouldnt you say?

Mary

Mary Report 2 Jun 2011 16:09

Avis Wheeler married henry Hine in Poole Dorset 1849 so that rules her out.

Maryb

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jun 2011 16:13

it's a long stretch maybe

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: MATTHEWS, Avice Ann
Registration District: Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 11A
Page No: 590

MarriageFinderâ„¢: Avice Ann Matthews married one of the following people

DAVIES, William
WEBBER, George Henry
LEWIS, Ann Rebecca

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jun 2011 16:17

1901 census - household transcription
Person: HINES, Avis
Address: 27, Washington Street, Chichester

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

HINES, Avis Head Widow F 76 1825 Living On Own Means Bosham Sussex
HATCHARD, Mary A Sister Widow F 74 1827 Living On Own Means Bosham Sussex
GOBLE, Charlotte Visitor Married F 31 1870 Monthly Nurse Bosham Sussex