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Many Thanks for the help/replies. I think Josephs birth will have to remain a mystery. Jeremiah and Sarah had at least 5 children who where all christened within 6 months of their birth at St Phillips Birmingham. Joesph was'nt one of them. On his marriage certs his Father is named as Jeremiah boatman and on a census when he has Jeremiahs, brn 1832,daughter staying with him she is down as neice. I already have a rellie putting down his uncle as his father on his marriage cert, I think I may have something along those lines here

Alternative for 1841


FIRKIN, Zephrania M 30 1811 VIEW
FIRKIN, Sarah F 30 1811 VIEW
FIRKIN, Joseph M 10 1831 VIEW
FIRKIN, Mary A F 7 1834 VIEW
FIRKIN, Eliza F 4 1837 VIEW
FIRKIN, William M 1 (18 months) 1840 VIEW
RG number:HO107 Piece:908 Book/Folio:10/31 Page:13     
 
Registration District:West Bromwich
Sub District: Oldbury
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
 
Civil Parish:Halesowen
Municipal Borough:
Address:Lodge Building, Halesowen, Oldbury
County:Shropshire

WILLM FIRKIN Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 07 SEP 1766 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England


Parents:
Father: JOSEPH FIRKIN Family
Mother: HANNAH


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

WILLIAM FIRKIN Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARTHA WHITEHOUSE Family
Marriage: 15 APR 1793 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Well I have looked and looked and can't find any of them on the 1841 or 1851.

From the Firkin tree on ancestry Jerimiah was born in 1805ish.

His parents were William Firkins 1766 and Martha Whitehouse c1766 and their childrens baps are these.

1. JOSEPH FIRKIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JUN 1797 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

2. WILLIAM FIRKIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 SEP 1799 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

3. JEREMIAH FIRKIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 APR 1805 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England **************

4. JOHN FERKIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 MAR 1794 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

5. ELIZABETH FERKIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 JAN 1804 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

6. THOMAS FERKIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUL 1801 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England

So it seems he had a brother Joseph (Jeremiah I mean)

Jeremiah married Sarah Wagstaff according to someones tree on Ancestry. They have Joseph as their child but no other children listed. They also have Jerimiah's parents.

At work at the mo, so doing this from memory. Parents Jeremiah and sarah both brn abt 1805 west brom children, that I can remember, Emma brn 1830 Jeremiah brn 1832 both christened at St Phillips Birmingham. Joseph married Emma abt 1857 both can be found on the 1861 census in Birmingham cannot find Joseph on the 1841 or the 1851 census

Hi, TF and MFG

Could you see if you can check for other Firkin threads? I get an error message when I try to search in the Enter Keyword box above..

Just a thought. Is'nt there a register of Boatman? Or absent voters.

Possibility for 1841, slightly older than expected though. Image very faint


Name: Joseph Firkins
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: West Bromwich
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East

Piece: 977
Book: 12
Folio: 50
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Hezikiah Firkins 30
Maria Firkins 30
Joseph Firkins 10
Hannah Firkins 9
Enock Firkins 4
Sarahund Firkins 2
John Firkins 4 MO

In your opening post you say "I am, still, looking for Joseph Firkins born at 1834...."

Does this mean that you already have another thread about the Firkins? Unfortunately, I cannot check because I keep getting an error report when I try to Search.

Lynda you have to tell us a little more about your Joseph, Like who he married, when and where and his children for us to look further for you. We need to know names of wives please?

Have you found Jeremiah's wife on the 1841 census and any of his children please?

I have go out to work now, but many thaks for the replies and I will be checking later again thanks

The Jeremiah I am looking for died in 1852, the reason, I thinks, they can't be found on the 1841 cesus is that they were boatmen working the birmingham/staffs canels

And also this death


First name(s): Joseph

Last name: FIRKIN  

Date of burial: 11 Dec 1836

Age at death: 2

Calculated year of birth: 1834

Place of burial: Harborne

Dedication: St Peter

County: Staffordshire

Notes:
Harborne St Peter:

Denomination: Anglican

Coverage: 1538 - 1892

Number of entries: 4,354

Record source: National Burial Index

Data provider: Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry

Thanks for that, but the Joseph I am looking for died at 56 in Birmingham after marrying twice

Can you tell us what the names of Jeremiah's other children were.

If he died in the first Qua of 1841 he quite possibly would not be on that census but his children and widow would be .

Suex

Possible death Possibly two born around the same time


Joseph

Last name: FIRKIN  

Date of burial: 28 Jan 1836

Age at death: 6 Weeks

Calculated year of birth: 1836

Place of burial: West Bromwich

Dedication: All Saints

County: Staffordshire

Notes:
West Bromwich All Saints:

Denomination: Anglican

Coverage: 1563 - 1979

Number of entries: 16,193

Record source: National Burial Index

Data provider: Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry

I did find that, but Joseph called "my" Jeriahs children his brothers and sisters so I don't really know

There is a death for a Jeremiah Firkin in 1841 at West Brom Jan Feb March, I wonder if that was his father.