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Thanks Jan

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Henry Herbert Thomas' father was
Henry J Thomas b 1871 Taunton his father was
Eli Thomas b 1838 Taunton

Francis Roswell Thomas' father was
Frederick Eli Thomas b 1864 Taunton, his father was
Eli Thomas b 1838 Taunton

so they have the same great grandfather (think that's right )

Jan

Thank you, what I am struggling with is how to ascertain how they are cousins.

Am guessing they will have the same grandparents?
Nicki

Thank you that is really useful. How do i work out how they are cousins? Assume grandparents are the same?

Nicki

Presumably married Rosa Eno

891 England Census

Name: Frederick Thomas
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Taunton St James
Ecclesiastical parish: Taunton St James
Town: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St James

Frederick Thomas 26
Rose Thomas 25
Florence Thomas 2

1901 England Census

Name: Francis K Thomas
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's name: Eli F Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Taunton St James
Ecclesiastical parish: Taunton St James
County/Island: Somerset

Registration district: Taunton

Eli F Thomas 37 (widower)
Florence M Thomas 12
Frederick S Thomas 9
Francis K Thomas 5
Mary A Thomas 72

I suspect these are Frederick's marriages, the first being that which produced Francis maybe, but not sure if these names mean anything to you.

Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
ENO Rosa Ellen Wellington Som 5c 482
Manley Robert George Wellington Som 5c 482
PULSFORD Elizabeth Wellington Som 5c 482
Thomas Eli Frederick Wellington Som 5c 482


Marriages Dec 1901
SMITH Agnes Harding Bristol 6a 169
Thomas Eli Frederick Bristol 6a 169

THOMAS, Frederick Eli Head Married M 47 1864 Hardware Dealer Taunton Somerset VIEW
THOMAS, Agnes Harding Wife Married
10 years F 47 1864 Assisting In The Business Bridport Dorset VIEW
THOMAS, Florence Martha Daughter Single F 22 1889 Working At Home West Buckland Somerset VIEW
THOMAS, Frederick Stanley Son Single M 19 1892 Working At Home Taunton Somerset VIEW
THOMAS, Francis Roswell Son Single M 15 1896 Cabinet Makers Apprentice Taunton Somerset VIEW
SMITH, Charles Henry Father In Law Widower M 76 1835 Loders Dorset VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14234 Reference:
RG14PN14234 RG78PN855 RD305 SD3 ED1 SN26

Registration District:
Taunton Sub District:
Taunton Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Taunton St James Within

Address:
41 East Reach Taunton County:
Somersetshire

First step to check for a birth - maybe?

Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
Thomas Francis Roswell Taunton 5c 310

Cora H Thomas and Francis Roswell Thomas were cousins that married in Dec 1937- how would I find out where Roswell Thomas fits into the family?

Cora was born 1911 and Francis was born 1896

Many thanks

Nicki

Thanks Jan, have messaged you

Nicki
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if you send my your email address by personal message I'll send you the image

jan

Jan

I think that is them - thank you.

Update ..

I have just found a letter from my mother's cousin and also
my grandparents marriage certificate. Ivor's father is Henry Herbert Thomas

Henry Herbert Thomas was born in Taunton and moved to Wales around 1910 to work as a miner. He had two sisters Gladys and Mabel.

Emma Thomas died in 1964 in Taunton

Nicki
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On 1911 census there is the following in Pontypridd

Reference RG14PN32217 RG78PN1850 RD589 SD1 ED7 SN319


Herbert Thomas 21 married Coal Miner b Taunton (Maybe Henry Herbert Thomas ?)
Emma Thomas 22 married b Taunton
married under 1 year ( this could have been a fib)
They are lodgers with

William Hooper 33 b Hereford ........a miner and his wife ...............Cora 37 b Radnor Knighton

just chucking it into the mix

Jan

too much of a coincidence ? Buckland St Mary is 8m south of Taunton

Also they were Emma and Lucy were born in Buckland St Mary, however this is misspelt on any census returns I have found them on.

On the 1911 one Lucy is domestic servant to the Dawkins family and the place of birth is described as Bucklanton St Mary Somerset

Nicki

Jan
Thank you for your advice.

Fingers crossed someone can crack it in the meant time

Nicki
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No, don't do that! But I remember looking for this person without success.

You have put so much it's worth leaving then reviving the thread when you get the cert - assuming no-one cracks the case in the meantime!

Jan

Yes brummiejan, I was and I have ordered that today - I know it will say Henry H Thomas and Emma Yard tho .

In my impatience I am really interested in trying to finedEmma on the census having found so much info out this afternoon.

If you think that this is a pointless exercise, should I delete this thread?

Nicki
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Weren't you advised to get your ancestor's birth cert? In order to establish parents' names for sure.
Jan