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I'm looking for Gawin Herdman, an ironmonger and John Herdman Sherson/Skerton both of Lancaster in the 1841 census. John was born c1801 and died in 1864 so if he can be found in the 1851 and 1861 census that would be great. Gawin had a daughter, Sarah who married in 1841, her address in the parish register is listed as Market Street, Lancaster. Whether she was at home or not I don't know. If anyone can help that would be great, any questions just ask.

Thanks
Samantha

HERDMAN, William M 35 1806 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, Elizabeth F 30 1811 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, William M 12 1829 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, Martha F 10 1831 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, Isabella F 9 1832 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, Harold M 6 1835 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, Elizabeth F 4 1837 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, James M 2 1839 Lancashire VIEW
HERDMAN, Gawin M 1 1840 Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
519 Book/Folio:
3/23 Page:
12

Registration District:
Derby, West Sub District:
Everton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Walton on the Hill Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
Lansdowne Place, Walton On The Hill, Everton, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

john
1851
1851 England Census about John Herdman
Name: John Herdman
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margret Herdman
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Prescot, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Eccleston
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 2194
Folio: 551
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
John Herdman 47
Margret Herdman 48
Elizebeth Hardman 21
John Hardman 16
Joseph Hardman 15
Mary Hardman 5
Elizebeth Hardman 4
Daniel Hardman 10 MO
Mary Sixsmith

Thanks Maddie, your first post is part of a different branch I am trying to connect with, I'm not sure about the second one as the place of birth isn't right.

Gawin Herdman
England and Wales Census, 1841

birth: 1840 —Lancashire
residence: 1841 —Walton On The Hill, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
census: 1841 —Walton On The Hill, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1841
name: Gawin Herdman
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 1
birthplace: Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Derby, West
sub-district: Everton
civil parish: Walton On The Hill
county: Lancashire


Gawan Herdman
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

birth: 1809
burial: 13 May 1841 —Cockerham, Lancashire, England

record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: Gawan Herdman
gender: Male
burial date: 13 May 1841
burial place: Cockerham, Lancashire, England
age: 32
birth date: 1809
indexing project (batch) number: B03091-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1278859


Gawan Herdman
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

burial: 13 May 1841 —Cockerham, Lancashire, England

record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: Gawan Herdman
gender: Male
burial date: 13 May 1841
burial place: Cockerham, Lancashire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I03460-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656815

1861
1861 England Census about John Hardman
Name: John Hardman
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Hardman
Gender: Male
Where born: Prescot, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Eccleston and Prescot
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Piece: 2746
Folio: 83
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hardman 58
Margaret Hardman 59
Mary Sixsmith 49
Elizabeth Hardman 32
Mary Hardman 15
Daniel Hardman 10
Thomas Hardman 8
James Hardman 6
Ellen Hardman

are these correct ?????
Maddie

Sarah Herdman
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 12 May 1809
residence: 1809 —Lancaster, Lancashire, England
parents: Gawin Herdman, Isabella

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sarah Herdman
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 22 Jun 1809
baptism/christening place: St. Mary's, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
birth date: 12 May 1809
father's name: Gawin Herdman
mother's name: Isabella
indexing project (batch) number: C01292-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1526146

Sarah Herdman, Jr.
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Pilling, Lancashire, England
parents: Gawin Herdman, Jr.

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sarah Herdman, Jr.
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 04 Jul 1773
baptism/christening place: Pilling, Lancs, Eng
father's name: Gawin Herdman, Jr.
indexing project (batch) number: C00549-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number:

Sarah Herdman
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 03 Jun 1841 —Lancaster, Lancashire, England
parents: Gawen Herdman
spouse: Bartholomew Bradshaw

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Bartholomew Bradshaw
bride's name: Sarah Herdman
marriage date: 03 Jun 1841
marriage place: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: William Bradshaw
bride's father's name: Gawen Herdman
indexing project (batch) number: M00590-5
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1526201

Isabella Sarah Ann Herdman
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 20 Feb 1879 —St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
parents: Gawin Herdman
spouse: Joseph Chatburn

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Joseph Chatburn
bride's name: Isabella Sarah Ann Herdman
marriage date: 20 Feb 1879
marriage place: St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
bride's father's name: Gawin Herdman
indexing project (batch) number: M16265-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1471152

Ann, I think you're on to something. I'll have a look around myself.

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Gawan HARDMAN Head M Male 26 Hindley, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Caroline HARDMAN Wife M Female 27 Brosley, Shropshire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Leigh Street Off Leigh Road
Census Place Hindley, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341902
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3771 / 80
Page Number 25

Maddie, I can't belive I just noticed this but for John the surname you have posted is Herdman but it's Sherson/Skerton.

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
3. Gavin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 11 FEB 1839 Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

4. Gavin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 11 FEB 1839 Everton, Lancashire, England

5. Gawing Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1722 Of Sisteben, , Lancashire, England

6. Gavin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 11 FEB 1839 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

7. GAWIN HERDMAN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 10 JUN 1746 Saint Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

8. GAWIN HERDMAN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 15 OCT 1766 Saint Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England

9. GAWIN HERDMAN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 24 JUL 1717 Pilling, Lancashire, England

10. GAWIN HERDMAN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 06 MAR 1763 Pilling, Lancashire, England

11. GAWIN HERDMAN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 22 DEC 1782 Pilling, Lancashire, England

12. Gavin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 11 FEB 1839 Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

13. Gawing Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1722 Of Slateben, , Lancashire, England

14. Gowan Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 1840 Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

15. Gowin Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 26 MAY 1802 Pilling, Lancashire, England

16. Gavin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 11 FEB 1839 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

17. Gawan Hardman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1656 Of, Garstang, Lancashire, England

18. Gawin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 10 FEB 1840 Lansdown Place, Everton, Lancashire, England

19. Gawan Hardman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1656 Of, Garstang, Lancashire, England

20. Gowen Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 29 DEC 1734 Pilling, Lancashire, England

21. Gawin Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 03 OCT 1805

22. Gawin Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 27 OCT 1805 Pilling, Lancashire, England

23. Gawen Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 01 DEC 1808

24. Gawen Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 02 DEC 1808 Pilling, Lancashire, England

25. GAWIN HERDMAN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAR 1829 Tunstall, Lancashire, England

26. Gavin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Death: 13 OCT 1894

27. Gavin Albert Herdman - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Death: 13 OCT 1894

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - over 25

Ann, you won't believe how many Gawin Herdman's I've come across in my research, any that you find are bound to be right somewhere. You might be able to help me, I've got baptism records for Sally and Sarah Herdman daughters of Gawin born in Pilling 1772 and 1773 resp. I have married Sarah to William Turner and couldn't find anything on Sally so assumed she had died young and Sarah was born after (given Sally is a form of Sarah). I was looking at a new source and came across a marriage of Sally Herdman to Christopher Sherson/Skerton. Her father was listed as Gawin. In your opinion would you say it was the Sally born 1772?

sorry what a fool
is this him in 1851
SHERDON, John Herdman Head Married M 49 1802 Attorney & Solicitor
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
SHERDON, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
SHERDON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 2 1849
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
SHERDON, Margaret Daughter F 0 (8 MOS) 1851
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
HIGH, Mary Servant Unmarried F 30 1821 Cook
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
HIGH, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 19 1832 Nurse
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
CATON, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 14 1837 House Servant
Lancaster
Lancashire

Yes, Maddie! Thanks :-)

1841
he is a solicitor
SHERSON, Sally F 65 1776 Lancashire VIEW
SHERSON, John M 35 1806 Lancashire VIEW
BROCKBANK, Ann F 20 1821 Lancashire VIEW
BIBBY, Susan F 20 1821 Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
553 Book/Folio:
6/25 Page:
44

Registration District:
Lancaster Sub District:
Lancaster Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Lancaster Municipal Borough:
Lancaster Address:
Dalton Square, West, Lancaster County:
Lancashire

his marraige
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: SHERSON, John Herdman
Registration District: Help Lancaster
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1847
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 21
Page No: Help 322
MarriageFinder™: John Herdman Sherson married one of the following people Help


HALL, Mary view record

PAGET, Mary view record

1861
SHERSON, John H Head Married M 59 1802 Retired Solicitor
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
SHERSON, Mary Wife Married F 51 1810
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
SHERSON, Sarah A Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
SHERSON, Margaret Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
SHERSON, Maria Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Mary Servant Unmarried F 38 1823 Domestic Servant
Kirkham
Lancashire VIEW
BRINDLE, Ann Servant Unmarried F 16 1845 Domestic Servant
Kirkham
Lancashire VIEW
DARBY, Nancy Servant Unmarried F 35 1826 Nurse
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
3157 Folio:
69 Page:
36

Registration District:
Lancaster Sub District:
3 Lancaster Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marys

Civil Parish:
Lancaster Municipal Borough:
Lancaster Address:
Greenfield, Lancaster County:
Lancashire