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I'M GOING MAD! Ancestry baptism look up please

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DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 20:49

I have found a baptism for Elizabeth Wilks, but I was wondering if anybody with full a Ancestry membership could view the full record and let me know if there is anything else of interest?


name: Elizabeth Wilks
event type: Baptism
birth date:
birthplace:
christening date: 16 Feb 1828
christening place: Leeds, Yorkshire
marriage date:
marriage place:
death date:
death place:
burial date:
burial place:
father's name: Henry Wilks
mother's name: Ann Wilks
record set: RG4_1917


Now, the only info I have for Elizabeth is an estimate birth year of 1827 and a estimate death date of 1905.

I'm going with this Elizabeth at the moment as her dad was called Henry and that was her son, Roberts middle name.

Thanks in advance.

Debi

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 21:04

Thank you so much Helen!

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 21:25

Yes please, my 3xg grandmother was called Elizabeth, if shes one of the children...then BINGO!

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 21:31

No mention of Elizabeth???

I also can not find Elizabeth in 1841?


Thank you

Debi

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 21:36

I believe this is my Elizabeth, she was heavily pregnant and living with two other females in 1851.

Transcription Record
Name Elizabeth Wilks
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Hand Loom Weaver
Address Low Lane
District Dewsbury, Gomersal
Parish
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Wortley
Birth County Yorkshire

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 21:39

She then married a Benjamin Brown, using her sons fathers surname GAUNT.


Transcription Record
Name Elizabeth Gaunt
Year of Marriage 1855
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Leeds
Registration County Yorkshire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 9B
Volume Page 308

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 21:40

1861

Name Elizabeth Brown
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Address Low Wortley
District Hunslet, Wortley
Parish Wortley
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Wortley Leeds
Birth County Yorkshire


DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 21:57

Really sorry, but could you do a look up for this Elizabeth, baptism and parents marriage please. Thank you for your help this evening.

name: Elizabeth Wilks
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Mar 1829
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER,LEEDS,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Wilks
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Lydia
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C07193-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918386
reference numbe

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 26 Jun 2011 22:25

Only marriage between a JOHN WILKS and a LYDIA IS THIS ONE....


John Wilks
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 22 Aug 1823 —Thornes, (Near Wakefield), York, England
spouse: Lydia Rhodes

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: John Wilks
bride's name: Lydia Rhodes
marriage date: 22 Aug 1823
marriage place: Thornes, (Near Wakefield), York, England
indexing project (batch) number: I03321-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 990774

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 22:55

Thanks very much Helen and Sue.

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 26 Jun 2011 23:27

Any info on John and Lydia's children or their parents, because I think this is the correct couple. just need any other info to confirm please.

Thanks again

Debi

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 09:25

births that match John and Lydia

Elizabeth Wilks
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Leeds, York, England
parents: John Wilks, Mrs. Lydia Wilks

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elizabeth Wilks
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Mar 1829
baptism/christening place: St. Peter, Leeds, York, England
father's name: John Wilks
mother's name: Mrs. Lydia Wilks
indexing project (batch) number: I03294-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 918386


Edward Wilks
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Leeds, York, England
parents: John Wilks, Mrs. Lydia Wilks

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Edward Wilks
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Jul 1834
baptism/christening place: Leeds, York, England
father's name: John Wilks
mother's name: Mrs. Lydia Wilks
indexing project (batch) number: I03294-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 918389



Agnes Wilks
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Leeds, York, England
parents: John Wilks, Mrs. Lydia Wilks

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Agnes Wilks
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 10 Jul 1834
baptism/christening place: Leeds, York, England
father's name: John Wilks
mother's name: Mrs. Lydia Wilks
indexing project (batch) number: I03294-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 918389


John William Wilks
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: York, England
parents: John Wilks, Lydia

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John William Wilks
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 May 1824
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER,LEEDS,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: John Wilks
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C07193-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918383



BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Birth


Name: WILKS, Henry
Registration District: Leeds
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 23
Page No: 249





Sorry the only birth/baptism I couldn't find is Sarah Wilks born 1836 on the IGI..

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 10:00

Possible Lydia's parents,,

Lydia Rhodes
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: York, England
parents: James Rhodes

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Lydia Rhodes
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Jul 1803
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER,LEEDS,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: James Rhodes
indexing project (batch) number: C00962-9
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918376



 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 10:04

Possible brother of Lydia,,,

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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JOHN RHODES Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 NOV 1801 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES RHODES Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C009629 1800 - 1803 0918376 Film 6900088 Film


Sheet: 00

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 10:09

Lydia's birth/christening,,,,

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LYDIA RHODES Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 JUL 1803 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES RHODES Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C009629 1800 - 1803 0918376 Film 6900088 Film


Sheet: 00

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 10:12

marriage for Lydia's parents,,,

James Rhodes
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 18 Mar 1790 —Saint Peter, Leeds, York, England
spouse: Elisabeth Johnson

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: James Rhodes
bride's name: Elisabeth Johnson
marriage date: 18 Mar 1790
marriage place: Saint Peter,Leeds,York,England
indexing project (batch) number: M00962-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918375

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 15:33

1841 for Elizabeth Wilks and parents John and Lydia,,,

1841 census - household transcription
Person: WILKS, Elizabeth
Address: Hunslet Lane, Leeds


Name Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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WILKS, John M 35 1806 Yorkshire
WILKS, Lydia F 35 1806 Yorkshire
WILKS, John M 15 1826 Yorkshire
WILKS, Elizabeth F 12 1829 Yorkshire
WILKS, Edward M 9 1832 Yorkshire
WILKS, Agnes F 7 1834 Yorkshire
WILKS, Sarah F 5 1836 Yorkshire
WILKS, Henry M 3 1838 Yorkshire

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1348 Book/Folio:
11/47 Page:
25

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
Kirkgate Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Leeds Municipal Borough:
Leeds Address:
Hunslet Lane, Leeds County:
Yorkshire


John Wilks father was a Clerk on the above census.
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 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 17:09

Will start with John Wilks Senior. born 1806 on the 1841 census.

He would have only been 17 when he married Lydia and 18 when the 1st born John William Wilks was born 1824.

I have found a birth for John Senior and this one is born 1802 Leeds

John Wilks
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: York, England
parents: John William Wilks

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John Wilks
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Sep 1802
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER,LEEDS,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: John William Wilks
indexing project (batch) number: C00962-9
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918376


So it looks like John William Wilks jnr was named after his grandfather,,

DebifromLeeds

DebifromLeeds Report 27 Jun 2011 17:12

Hi Sue and thank you!

I 'think' the second Elizabeth is mine, wish I could be sure though...

To give you some background, Elizabeth was unmarried when she had my gg grandfather. She named him Robert Henry Gaunt Wilks, but in the 1871 to 1911 census and death record, he goes by Robert Henry Wilks Gaunt, obviously his fathers surname. His mother also enters her name as Elizabeth Gaunt Wilks on Roberts birth cert. They both then use the surname Gaunt and she even marries used the Gaunt surname! She marries a Benjamin Brown and they have Sarah, John, George, Thomas and Benjamin.
Her age stays consistent through out the census's,

1851 - 24
1861 - 34
1871 - 44
1881 - 54
1891 - 64
1901 - 74, so I took a date of birth as 1827, but there are no Elizabeth Wilks.

There are two in 1825, which I think is too early and one in 1830, which i think is too late. Then there is the two on here, 1828 and 1829, I opted for the first one, that being nearer 1827. the father and mother were called Henry and Ann Wilks, and with her giving her son the middle name of Henry, I thought that would be a good sign, but they used a RC church, which doesn't quite fit as she married in St Peters parish Church and this church is used a lot in my findings. then there was the second one, who's parents were John and Lydia, they used St Peters and their children were John, Elizabeth, Edward, Agnes, Sarah and Henry!
My Elizabeth had children called JOHN, SARAH AND HENRY, so that kind of fits, but the age doesnt!

Also, when i got Elizabeths marriage cert, she didnt name a father, my thinking was that maybe she couldnt na me a 'WILKS' with her marrying under a false name or maybe none of these are my Elizabeths and she wasnt even baptized at all!!!

Love love to hear others views on this PLEASE.

Much thanks

Debi

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Jun 2011 17:17

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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JOHN WILKS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 SEP 1802 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN WILLIAM WILKS Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C009629 1800 - 1803 0918376 Film 6900088 Film


Sheet: 00



IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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JAMES WILKS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 29 JUN 1801 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN WILLIAM WILKS Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C009629 1800 - 1803 0918376 Film 6900088 Film


Sheet: 00



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IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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ELIZABETH WILKS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 SEP 1802 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN WILLIAM WILKS Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C009629 1800 - 1803 0918376 Film 6900088 Film


Sheet: 00