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Hi I am trying to find my relation Robert Langburn after 1881 (a FREE BMD search shows no possible marriage or death). I assume he left the UK but I do not know. . Here he is in 1881 and I can't see him at all after this. Can someone spot him after?

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William BOSMWORTH Head M Male 33 Thirsk Carlton, York, England Station Master
Isabella BOSMWORTH Wife M Female 36 Yarm, York, England
Walter H. BOSMWORTH Son Male 9 Seaton Carew, Durham, England Scholar
Mabel BOSMWORTH Daur Female 6 Seaton Carew, Durham, England Scholar
Susan J. BOSMWORTH Daur Female 5 Seaton Carew, Durham, England Scholar
George BOSMWORTH Father W Male 66 Thirsk Thirlby, York, England General Labourer
Robert LONGBURN Boarder U Male 19 Westerdale, York, England Railway Clerk

Source Information:
Dwelling Station Lane
Census Place Seaton Carew, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342179
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4905 / 87
Page Number 32

Only Robert Langburn I can find on 1891 Census:

Name Robert Langburn
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Accountants Clerk
Address 73, Redcar Road
District Guisborough, Guisborough
Parish Guisborough
Administrative County Yorkshire (North Riding)
Birth Place Guisbrough
Birth County Yorkshire
Birth for this one:
Name Robert Jeffrey Langburn
Year of Registration 1869
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Guisborough
Registration County Yorkshire
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 9D
Volume Page 451


Do you have birth certificate?

Possible birth:

Name Robert Langburn
Year of Registration 1862
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Guisborough
Registration County Yorkshire
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 9D
Volume Page 455

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Sergt R LANGBURN
Date of departure: 19 September 1900
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Cape Coast
Destination country: Ghana (Gold Coast)

Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status:
Sex: Not specified
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 2
Ship: SOKOTO
Official Number: 0
Master's name: Capt J A Winham
Steamship Line: British & African Steam Navigation Co Ltd
Where bound: West Coast of Africa, Africa
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage: 0



Overseas registration event: Death

Name: LANGBURN, Male (unnamed)

Vessel: Sokoto

Country: At sea

Year: 1901

Page: 240

Age at death: 40

Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902)


Maureen

This may explain why he was on his way to the Cape Coast but there appears to be controversy on dates:

Gold Coast (British colony) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In 1900 the Ashanti Uprising took place, resulting in the British capture .... In April 1852, local chiefs and elders met at Cape Coast to consult with the ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Coast_(British_colony) -

Hi Perchino, the 1891 census for Robert Jeffrey Langburn is a relation of mine, however, is in not the Robert Langburn who I am looking for in this thread. Thank you for this help though.

RE the 1900 passenger list; you seem to have found him (the name is unusual, although variations on LANGBURN include Langborn, Longburn/Longborn, Langburne/Longburne, Langbourne/Longbourne) etc.

Maureen thank you for the info also. So it seems Robert died en route to Ghana? Is that correct?

And he was a sergent? Is there a way of finding out more about his career?

Thank you again; this relation has kept me stumped for some time.

Peter

Hi Peter,
This is rather obscure but very interesting. If you cannot trace a death certificate I suggest trying to find out which regiments served in the Ashanti Uprising and looking on the relevant regiment's website for possible clues. This is at the time of the Second Boer War when there were significant troop movements in Africa. Had he been in Africa before 1900? You may be fortunate and find him on a list of names of the troops who served in a campaign.

Thanks Perchino; I have no idea if he was in Africa before 1900. As I say, up until the posts on here the last I knew of him was him living in Railway Station at Seaton Carew in 1881! Does he not appear on the 1891? He should be included somewhere.

Is there a mention of him in the military records on ancestry?

Thanks again

Hi Peter,
I cannot find him on the 1891 Census which makes me wonder if he was stationed abroad then. Nothing either on a Google search of his name.

Edit
Other possibility is to look for passenger list of Sokoto on this site:
Liverpool museums - Maritime Archives Information Sheet No. 15 ...
Skip navigation. Merseyside Maritime Museum ... The British and African and the older African Steam Ship Company, ... A new Elder Dempster Line was reconstructed under the management of the Ocean Steam Ship
Company Limited. ...

www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/archive/displayG...

Free military searches are available on findmypast site.

Signing off for the evening

FreeBMD marriage record

Robert Jeffrey Langburn married Eleanor Place Q3 1896 in Reg district of Hartlepool ref 10A 249
(Seaton Carew , his residence in 1881, is a suburb of Hartlepool)

is this the 1891 for the above marraige
LANGBURN, Robert Head Married M 31 1870 Brewers Salesman
Guisborough
Yorkshire VIEW
LANGBURN, Eleanor Wife Married F 30 1871
Snape Nr Bedale
Yorkshire VIEW
LANGBURN, Gladys E Daughter Single F 1 1900
Middlesbrough
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4580 Folio:
180 Page:
2

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough Enumeration District:
56 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Aidan Middlesbrough Middlesbrough

Civil Parish:
Middlesbrough Municipal Borough:
Address:
66, Percy Street, Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

Yes Maddie that is the marriage for Robert Jeffrey Langburn, born 1870 in Guisborough.

Robert Langburn born 1862 in this thread is another relation of mine.

Peter

Really sorry.Peter!

Other than the outgoing and the death..I'm lost.


I have tried the usual: FMP/NA /London Gaz/ etc.

No luck on my part.

Maureen

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1115521

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273454

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1115522



http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273368

( I happen to have spent some time investigating that one but did not post in the thread as I did not find anything )

in that thread just yesterday you refer to an 'other thread' about Robert

this one ?

these are very closely related people


1871

Harland Langburn 42
Jabez Langborne 16
Ruth Langborne 13
Elizabeth M Langborne 11 the other thread
Robert Langborne 9 this thead
Lucy Langborne 6
Hannah Husband 22


and the guidelines do say to keep information about people in a single familiy in a single thread, it saves helpers duplicating research and it is to your benefit because the people who have become familiar with the family will see the new questions :-)

( I point this out mainly in anticipation of possible new threads, maybe for the next person in the clan you would add to one of the existing threads ? )

ps

this seems to be the authoritative wiki article on the Anglo-Ashanti Wars, the other one linked to earlier is flagged by wiki as having problems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Ashanti_wars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Golden_Stool

The War of the Golden Stool, also known as the Yaa Asantewaa War, the Third Ashanti Expedition, the Ashanti Uprising, or variations thereof, was the final war in a series of conflicts between the British Imperial government of the Gold Coast (later Ghana) and the Empire of Ashanti, a powerful, semi-autonomous African state that fractiously co-existed with the British and its vassal coastal tribes.

Couple or records. Not much info but one gives Royal Regiment of Lancashire, based in Preston. At the time of one record Robert said to be deceased.

UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
about R Langburn Name: R Langburn
Campaign or Service: Ashanti
Service Date: 1900
Service Location: Africa
Regiment or Unit Name: Special Service N C O of The A F Forc

UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
about R Langburn Name: R Langburn
Campaign or Service: Ashanti
Service Date: 1900
Service Location: Africa
Regiment or Unit Name: 3rd Niger Battalion West African Frontier Force Corps

Have no experience of military records. Can email originals if you wish.

Vera

Ah,good,Vera! Never thought to look on Ancestry! grin

Proves what Perchino and chrissie were referring to.

mmmmmm....lots of Langburn threads going on,are there?

Maureen

Thanks Chrissie and I need to investigate further; this sounds quite interesting, and I assume that this was to do with the Boar War?

Yes I do have a few threads on the family but as in the past I was told it was easier to keep individuals seperate, and, the individuals on these threads are from across various branches and generations ... that make sense?

I have done a lot of reserach on this family as the name is quite unusal, but the people I could not find I have asked for guidance on here. Thanks for that.

Peter

Perchino and Maureen and then Vera found the important info really, not me ! that was just a bit of background on the circumstances of his death ...

It was actually very separate from the Anglo-Boer wars I think, I was not familiar with it ... this was directly between the British imperial forces and the original population of the region and its own government ... interesting !

I'm sorry you have been told to keep individuals separate when they are so closely related, it so often does mean that people do the same searching over again to get background information like earlier censuses ... where the people are from families that branched off generations earlier, that can be different of course.

congratulations to Perchino and Maureen for that find, it certainly does answer the question about Robert's fate.

My thank you goes to everyone on the thread. It is much appreciated.

I would like to investigate this further. I wonder if I could find out more about Robert's career in the army.

I was once told to keep siblings on different threads to avoid confusion with cross information etc but I suppose everyone has a different way of working.

Thank you all again

check Vera's message above, she offered to email you originals of the records she found ( I don't know whether they contan more info the way WWI or Chelsea Pensioner records do ), just send her a private message with your email address

Thank you I have already sent a message