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Jennie and Frederick both died young.

Rose

Well, I yahoo answered Dorothy Clifton a while back and somebody told me that 38 Selborne Street, Rotherham did not exist in 1911 but the houses either side did.

Weird eh?

Where did u get Jennie and Eileen from?
Its funny you should say Ireland. Im sure I went on ancestry yesterday and saw a Charles and Dorothy in Ireland.
This i will look into today :-)

Still cant find a definate on Charles from the James and Hannah Clifton family :-(

Have you looked to see who is at 38 Selborne Street in 1911?

Rose

Could she have been from Ireland or Scotland? Just looking at her children's names.

Jennie and Eileen stand out.

Rose

Sorry, above very unlikely as father a surgeon!
jan

No idea if relevant but just in case (Alice is 35 not 25)

1901 England Census

Name: Dorothy Clifton
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Fredk Wm Clifton
Mother's name: Alice Maud Clifton
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Hallam

Fredk Wm Clifton 40 Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England
Alice Maud Clifton 25
Alice Mary Clifton 9
Dorothy Clifton 7
Eida Booker 22
Ellen Deakin 20
Florance B Hartley 14

Dorothy died in 1962, she was abt 71

Her residence at time of marriage was 38 Selborne Street, Rotherham

What was her address when she married?

Rose

Putting this for info

TAYLOR, Joseph Head Married
12 years M 40 1871 Crane Driver Sheffield Yorks VIEW
TAYLOR, Nellie Wife Married F 32 1879 Afreton Derbys VIEW
TAYLOR, Evelyn Daughter F 11 1900 School Sheffield Yorks VIEW
TAYLOR, Gladys Daughter F 9 1902 School Whittenston Derbys VIEW
TAYLOR, Joseph Son M 7 1904 School Ilkeston Derbys VIEW
TAYLOR, Annie Daughter F 2 1909 Sheffield Yorks VIEW
STANIFORTH, Walter Boarder Single M 40 1871 Bricklayer Sheffield VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27975 Reference:
RG14PN27975 RG78PN1599 RD510 SD6 ED16 SN209

Registration District:
Sheffield Sub District:
East Brightside Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Sheffield

Address:
5 Fell Place Sheffield County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

When did she die and what was her age?

Rose

ps. George, Yes that is the correct 1861 census x

I dont have a birth cert atm as I am just trying to see if I can connect the 2 people together to find a family.

According to her m. cert she was 22 when married. But of course this and her fathers name could be lies. I just dont know.

When was Dorothy born? Do you have her birth cert?

Rose

Well I have asked about this subject in a previous post a long while ago but it gets complicated so I thought Id start again. Apologies

My Great Grandmother was Dorothy Clifton

She married Frederick Brocklehurst 1913 in Christchurch, Attercliffe, Sheffield

On her m.cert her father was Charles Clifton, Joiner/Tool Maker.
(I cannot find a Dorothy with father Charles in censuses)
This is a dead end as far as I can see

Her witnesses were Nellie Taylor and Walter Stainforth.
In the 1911 census I found Nellie living with her husband Joseph Taylor and lodger Walter Stainforth.

Nellie Clifton married Joseph Taylor in 1898, Sheffield

Nellie Clifton lived her unmarried life with her Grandparents Issachar and Sarah Lomas in Blackwell, Derbyshire. Why this was I don't know.

Nellie's mother was their daughter Mary Lomas who married William Clifton in 1876, in Chesterfield and seemed to lived happily with husband and other children while Nellie live with her grandparents.

Nellie's Father William Clifton was born in Warboys, Huntingdonshire.

In 1871 William is living with his mother Hannah Clifton and siblings in Warboys.

In 1861 William is living with his father James Clifton and Hannah Clifton and brother CHARLES!!!

Is this where Nellie and Dorothy are related and is this FINALLY her father CHARLES i have been looking for all this time?

I just need to trace Charles but this is again where I am struggling :-(

Perhaps you should start by giving us Dorothy Clifton's details.

Rose

Where does Dorothy fit into all this?
Jan

There's only one birth c1855:

Births Dec 1854
Clifton Charles Huntingdon 3b 207

Rose

For ref

Is this him in 1861, this record has a birth year of 1847.

CLIFTON, James Head Married M 38 1823 Cordwainer
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, Hannah Wife Married F 36 1825
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, Charles Son M 14 1847 Cordwainer
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, Joseph Son M 12 1849 Agricultural Labourer
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, James Son M 11 1850 Agricultural Labourer
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, William Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, John Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, Thomas Son M 3 1858 Scholar
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW
CLIFTON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 0 (9M) 1861
Warboys
Huntingdonshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
976 Folio:
78 Page:
18

Registration District:
St Ives Sub District:
1 Warboys Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Warboys Municipal Borough:
Address:
West End, Warboys County:

I cant see him in 1871


George

Still not sure if yours!

1901 England Census

Name: Charles Clifton
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Clifton
Gender: Male
Where born: Godmanchester, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Eaton Square
County/Island: London

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave

Name Age
Charles Clifton 45
Elizabeth Clifton 38
Elizabeth Clifton 15

Not sure if area fits

CLIFTON, Charles Head Married M 55 1856 Royal Stableman Pensioned Hunts Godmanchester VIEW
CLIFTON, Elizabeth Wife Married
25 years F 48 1863 London Westminster VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
8758 Reference:
RG14PN8758 RG78PN456 RD171 SD4 ED7 SN106

Registration District:
Huntingdon Sub District:
Huntingdon Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Godmanchester

Address:
Duck End Godmanchester Hunts County:
Huntingdonshire