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I am looking for the parents of Patterson NEWTON born 1811 at Apperley, Northumberland. I have been unable to get anywhere with this and would be grateful for help.

Name: Pattison Newton
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Apr 1808
Baptism/Christening Place: WHITTONSTALL,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1808
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Newton
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Pattison
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00451-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 252575
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

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County Northumberland
Place Whittonstall
Church St Philip and St James Bt
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 26 May 1796
GroomForename Thomas
GroomSurname NEWTON
GroomAge
GroomParish Whickham Dur
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Isabel
BrideSurname PATTISON
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Michael
WitnessOneSurname STEPHENSON
WitnessTwoForename Richd
WitnessTwoSurname GREEN
Notes Banns published 23 Apr, 1, 8 May. he signs x she signs x + witness Cathrine ROBSON
FileNumber 23180

Thank you for the information, SAFC.

These are my husband's ancestors but he has noted that the names of the two women are different (Elizabeth and Isabel). He has begun searching to see whether Thomas was married twice.

Many thanks.

Can anyone help, please?

Isabel Pattison married Thomas Newton in 1796 but the mother of Pattison Newton (b 1808 and I thought it should be 1811) is given as Elizabeth Pattison.

Have I got it wrong?

Is Isabel actually Pattison Newton's mother or have I got the wrong Pattison Newton altogether?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

there is this
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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PATTISON NEWTON Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
28 FEB 1808
Christening:
17 APR 1808 Whittonstall, Northumberland, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: THOMAS NEWTON Family
Mother: ELIZABETH PATTISON


Pattison Newton

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


birth: 28 Feb 1808
residence: 1808 —Northumberland, England
parents: Thomas Newton, Elizabeth Pattison

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Pattison Newton
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Apr 1808
baptism/christening place: WHITTONSTALL,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
birth date: 28 Feb 1808
father's name: Thomas Newton
mother's name: Elizabeth Pattison
indexing project (batch) number: P00451-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 252575

just to confuse the issue there are siblings eg

Thomas Newton

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


spouse: Elizabeth Patterson Newton
child: Thomas Newton

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Thomas Newton
gender: Male
birth date: 28 Feb 1802
birthplace: Bywell-St. Peter, Northumberland, England
father's name: Thomas Newton
mother's name: Elizabeth Patterson Newton
indexing project (batch) number: I02383-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1469100


and

Thomas Newton

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


spouse: Isabel Pattinson Newton
child: Mary Newton

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Newton
gender: Female
birth date: 15 Jul 1798
birthplace: Bywell-St. Peter, Northumberland, England
father's name: Thomas Newton
mother's name: Isabel Pattinson Newton
indexing project (batch) number: I02383-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1469100

If Thomas married twice, it would be unusual to marry 2 Pattisons/Pattersons.

Maybe Isabel was misheard .

Thanks Maddie.

I can only find Thomas marrying Isabel in 1796 (but I know Elizabeth may not have married Thomas).

Could Pattison Newton born 1808 be the Pattison Newton born 1811 in various censuses (censii?) who had 2nd child, Thomas Newton born 1833.

..... and what do you make of the Elizabeth/Isabel scenario?

well in the 1841 he was born 1811, 1851 in 1819
birth dates in census were only as good as info given
wife is isabella
Parish Records Collection - marriage
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Day: 20
Month: Jul
Year: 1829
Groom forenames: Pattison
Groom surname: Newton
Grooms parish:
Groom other:
Bride forenames: Isabella
Bride Surname: Rutter
Brides parish:
Bride other:
Place:
Description: Newcastle, St. John
County: Northumberland
Checked: N
Origin:

cant see him in 1861
possble death
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: NEWTON, Pattison
Registration District: Help Castle Ward
County: Northumberland
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume No: 10B
Page No: 117
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can't make head nor tale of elizabeth / isabel unless they were related somehow

maddie

Many thanks, Maddie.

Hubbie can't make head nor tail of it but I've set him off checking as they are HIS rellies.

(That'll keep him occupied for a while!)

Remember that in 1841 census, adult ages were rounded down to the nearest 5, so he could have been up to 4 years older than stated.

Thanks, Mike.

I'd forgotten that and hubbie never even knew about that.

well joyce
as they say out of sight out of mind !
for a little while anyway
maddie

If you say Isobel quickly with a Northumberland accent, it could conceivably sound like Elizabeth. !

Not many could write their name so relied on who ever was taking the info down.

(just one possible explanation )

try here

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#w=0&p=waypoint&s=waypointsOnly&c=fs%3A1309819
click on northumberland
then click on whittonstall
then on 1774-1871
theres 157 images to look at some might be for your relatives
(that'll keep him occupied a bit longer)

you could also join here as they have a lot of info on whittonstall

http://www.ndfhs.org.uk/

Thanks, Mike.

I'd forgotten that and hubbie never even knew about that.

Thanks, SAFC - that'll give me the rest of the weekend to myself!