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Berry & Simpson Family Connection

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Frederic (Eric)

Frederic (Eric) Report 9 Jul 2011 01:17

Hi there,
I am trying to find what happened to:
Helen Fulton Berry - born 1891 in South Leith, Edinburgh to William Berry and Helen Smith.

Also recorded as Ellen Berry, Helen Berry married George Simpson on 01 Apr 1910 in Burntisland Fife. George is the connection to my family line (born George Cant).

I have located them on the 1911 Census living in Thornton, Fife - one son noted (Alexander born 1910).

I have been unsuccessful in trying to find death records for either Helen Berry or George Simpson and wondered if anyone would be able to assist.

Nor have I been able to find any marriage, death record for their son Alexander. Looking at other birth records, it is quite possible that George D Simpson, born 1911 in Thornton may also be a connection.

Any descendants of Alexander may well hold a key to my gran (she was the adopted sister of George Simpson/Cant)

Any assistance would be most appreciated.

Regards,
Eric
Metung, Victoria
Australia

Flick

Flick Report 9 Jul 2011 09:12

Have you checked 'search trees' to see if anyone else on GR is researching any of these names?

Susan

Susan Report 9 Jul 2011 09:32

I don't know if this is of any connection to you .
Helen Simpson is traveling back to Scotland with a George Simpson 34yrs and there son Gordon 6yrs.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Helen A Simpson
Name: Helen A Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1891
Age: 29
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 20 Oct 1920
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Columbia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Columbia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 115682

George is a machinist

Susan

Susan Report 9 Jul 2011 09:36

Again in 1930,this time with another son George 6yrs and Gordon 16 yrs no George snr this trip.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Helen Simpson
Name: Helen Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 38
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 10 Aug 1930
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ports of Voyage: Boston
[Belfast]
Ship Name: Transylvania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Transylvania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 147871

This family loves traveling,here they are again in 1932she is with the two children as before

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Helen Simpson
Name: Helen Simpson
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 40
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1932
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ports of Voyage: Londonderry
Ship Name: Tuscania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Tuscania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 146307

Frederic (Eric)

Frederic (Eric) Report 9 Jul 2011 10:22

Hi Flick and Susan.

Flick - yes I have done that. Nobody is actually following that exact line down. I am in the fact the only one with Helen Berry born C1891 in South Leith, Edinburgh.

Susan - Helen's middle was Fulton - so I am not sure if that would be the right person in those passenger listings.

It would then beg the question as to what happened to Alexander born 1910. George worked on the railways as a shunter.

I also found a George Simpson travelling to New York (arrived 1926) and it noted on the passenger listing wife Helen. That too could be a possibility (but no children noted).

It's a bit of a mystery really.

There is someone on Ancestry with Georges mother (Cecilia Cant) and her husband Alexander Young (George was born out of wedlock to Cecilia and father noted as George Simpson also). They also have other names that I am researching, but the tree seems to have been removed from tyhe site -even though the searches bring up their information (very odd in itself).

Thanks so much for helping out - I will keep trying!

Regards,
Eric

Frederic (Eric)

Frederic (Eric) Report 10 Jul 2011 06:06

Susan - I found this record today. I'll assume FEFESHIRE is Fifeshire. There is no image with this record (had to laugh!! )
Birth year close that of Alexander (son of George and Helen Simpson).

Will search for other "Simpsons" on same ship.

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
about Alexander Simpson Name: Alexander Simpson
Age: 1
Birth Year: abt 1911
Place of Origin: Fefeshire
Ship Name: Devon
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 27 Aug 1912

Frederic (Eric)

Frederic (Eric) Report 10 Jul 2011 06:11

SUCCESS I think .... here are 3 of them birth years very closely matching my George and Helen !!
Helen 1890, George 1883 and Alexander 1911 Seems George travelled first, closely followed by Helen and Alexander.

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912


Passenger Lists


PreviewName: Helen Simpson
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1890
Place of Origin: Fefeshire
Ship Name: Devon
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 27 Aug 1912

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Name: Helen Simpson
Birth: abt 1890
Origin: Fefeshire
Departure: London, England
Arrival: 27 Aug 1912 - Brisbane

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912


Passenger Lists


Name: Alexander Simpson
Birth: abt 1911
Origin: Fefeshire
Departure: London, England
Arrival: 27 Aug 1912 - Brisbane

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 Passenger Lists
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Name: George Simpson
Birth: abt 1883
Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival: 17 Dec 1911 - Brisbane, Australia