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Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:08
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Hi wondering if anyone can help,i have been searching for months for a marriage. Sarah Ann Allen 1883-1942 married a smith then a williscroft then a smith again. i cant find first marriage to a smith, i know she married my great grandad Albert Ernest Williscroft in 1909 he died in action in war 1882-1916 she then married Horace Smith in 1918 other than that no more info i know. would be very grateful if anyone can fill some gaps??? Mandy
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31 288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:12
	For Ref 1911 census - household transcription Person: WILLISCROFT, Sarah Address: 12 Meadow St Nuneaton Warwickshire WILLISCROFT, Albert Head Married M 29 1882 Brick Setter Rugeley Staffs VIEW WILLISCROFT, Sarah Wife Married 3 years F 29 1882 Oldbury Staffs VIEW SMITH, John Son Single M 5 1906 Walsall Wood Staffs VIEW SMITH, Albert Son Single M 2 1909 Walsall Wood Staffs VIEW SMITH, David Son Single M 1 1910 Nuneaton Warwickshire VIEW GIBBS, Lizzie Boarder Married F 29 1882 Fowcester Northamptonshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 18478 Reference: RG14PN18478 RG78PN1108 RD388 SD1 ED32 SN132 Registration District: Nuneaton Sub District: Nuneaton Enumeration District: 32 Parish: Nuneaton Address: 12 Meadow St Nuneaton Warwickshire County: Warwickshire
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:18
	But why are there Smith children born 1909 and 1910 if she married Mr. Williscroft in 1909?
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:19
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	So those children listed are from her marrige before???
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12 081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:21
	This set of marriage missing one male Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>Allen Sarah Ann Walsall 6b 1300 Fletcher George Walsall 6b 1300 Joyce Ellen Walsall 6b 1300 O'Neil Mary Walsall 6b 1300 Salt Joseph Walsall 6b 1300 and this set with one over Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chapple John Walsall 6b 1306 Eyre Charlotte Walsall 6b 1306 >>>>Smith James Walsall 6b 1306 You will need the cert ordered with Sarah details to check if correct match. From 1911 cesus John Chapple married charlotte Andy
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:24
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	hmm confused.com Albert 1909 is my grandad so she could well of had him that year just before she married, but dont know where david comes into it and he is from a different place lol
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31 288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:25
	Do you have the 1909 Marriage Certificate?
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:29
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	yes found sarah ann smith married albert ernest williscroft 1909
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:32
	There's this on FreeBMD but when you click on page it says "Spouse not found" Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLISCROFT Albert Ernest Walsall 6b 78_
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12 081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:33
	Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLISCROFT Albert Ernest Walsall 6b 78_ SMITH Sarah Ann Walsall 6b 788 Andy
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:34
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	say the spouse to the right of it, i have saved it in my faves says sarah ann smith then to the right married one of these 3 and his name is there, albert ernest williscroft
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:34
	Guess they just couldn't read the page number for Albert Ernest. Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JACKSON Annie Walsall 6b 788 JONES Leonard Walsall 6b 788 SMITH Sarah Ann Walsall 6b 788
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:35
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Thank you Andy yes!
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31 288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:35
	Ok....that quarter is missing from the BMD.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:37
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	so we got that one, then i found the marriage after albert died in 1916 she married horace smith in 1918
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31 288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:37
	I have just checked the image........ Albert and David have been mistranscribed............Their surnames are Williscroft!!!
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:39
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	oh excellent thanks but not John?
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23 482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:41
	I think possibly just a mistake on the 1911 census. First son was a Smith and the probably used ditto for the next sons. Births Sep 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLISCROFT Albert Ernest Walsall 6b 764 Births Sep 1910 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLISCROFT David J Nuneaton 6d 469 Edit: Oops, Prickly Holly beat me to it!
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31 288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:44
	John is age 5 Mandy.........and as they had only been married 3 yrs it fits. Phew!! ;-) I will post a correction on the 1911.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	Mandy	Report	12 Jul 2011 16:45
Member Since: January 2009 Posts: 42 Send Message	right i see ok thanks thats cleared that up, from family now living they tell me sarah married a smith first time round but dont know who, any help there at all please? This marriage would have had John?

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