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Frederick Arthur Love, my husband Ron's father had a copy of his birth certificate which states his father's name as Daniel Henry Love and his mother Charlotte Louisa Love formerly Aldis, the address was 8 bonny Street St Pancras and the date of birth 29 July 1984. His father's profession was given as Bootmaker Journeyman. However, on Frederick's mariage certificate dated 18 March 1916 he states his father's name as Frederick Love Skin Dyer deceased his wife was Rosina Chamberlain aged 21 which would give her birth date as 1895, her father's name Thomas John Chamberlain also deceased was a Coal Porter. Frederickm lived at 27 Northumberland Grove Tottenham at that time and was a Stoker in small arms factory and Rosina was a marble polisher lived at 4 Union Row Tottenham. This is the only informationon the parents that we have ezxcept that Frederick Arthur Love died on 27 December 1967.

Any information at all regarding Frederick Arthur's parents or siblings would be very much appreciated because I'm hitting my head on a blank wall.

Flynn

This is probably the death record:

Name: Frederick A Love
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1967
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5a
Page: 143

1901???
Name: Albert Love
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's name: Daniel Love occ Boot Machine Closer born Bath, Somerset
Mother's name: Charlotte Love born Marylebone
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent's Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 329
Piece: 131
Folio: 149
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Love 31
Charlotte Love 30
Albert Love 5
Ivy Love 3

Is this the birth certificate that you have?

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Love Frederick Arthur Pancras 1b 121

Why does this seem so familiar?

Are you 100% certain that the birth and marriage certs are for the same person?

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Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Aldis Charlotte Louisa Chelsea 1a 718
Love Daniel Henry Chelsea 1a 718
MURRAY Mary Chelsea 1a 718
TWINE Frederick William Chelsea 1a 718

Frederick Arthur Love born 1984 ?

... should that be 1894 ?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Daniel Henry Love Name: Daniel Henry Love
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Spouse Name: Charlotte Louisa Aldis
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1892
Parish: St Jude, Kensal Green
County: London
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Frederick Love

Original says that he's a boot fitter as was his father who is deceased. Her father is also deceased who was also a fitter but I can't make out first word.
Address for both is 131 Fernhead Rd.
Witnesses were William Aldis and George Lewis (Love)I think.

Notice when the participants are full age they put birth year same as marriage year. Silly!

this could be Ivy his sister
1911
LOVE, Ivy Inmate Single F 11 1900 School London Strand VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7739 Reference:
RG14PN7739 RD140 SD4 ED7 SN9999

Registration District:
Watford Sub District:
Abbots Langley Enumeration District:
7 Parish:


Address:
Watford Hertfordshire County:
Hertfordshire

London Orphan Asylum Watford

No birth found for Daniel Henry in the time frame, but......
Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
Love Henry Daniel Bath 5c 671

Fits with the 1901 census details Jonesey found.

Name: Rosina Chamberlain
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1895
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 409

1901:
Name: Rosina Chamberlain
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thos Chamberlain
Mother's name: Mary Ann Chamberlain
Gender: Female
Where born: Tottenham
Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1247
Folio: 135
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Chamberlain 58 occ Coal porter
Mary Ann Chamberlain 42
William Chamberlain 19
Mary Ann Chamberlain 16
Ellen Eliz Chamberlain 12
Thos Chamberlain 10
Fred Ch Chamberlain 8
Rosina Chamberlain 6
Stanley Chamberlain 2
Herbert G Chamberlain 3/12

Who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Marriages Mar 1916
Chamberlain Rosina Love Edmonton 3a 1165
Love Frederick Chamberlain Edmonton 3a 1165

doesnt seem the birth and marriage certs are the same person because Daniel dint die till 1936!!

Name: Daniel H Love
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1936
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Marylebone
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 469

is this Charlotte
Name: Charlotte Love
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1956
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 504

Daniel
1871

LOVE, Frederick Head M 26 1845 Somerset (Occupation: Boot Closer)
LOVE, Emma Wife F 32 1839 Wiltshire
LOVE, Amy Daughter F 6 1865 Somerset
LOVE, Bessie Daughter F 3 1868 Somerset
LOVE, Daniel Son M 0 1871 Somerset

RG number: RG10 Piece: 2491 Folio: 80 Page: 30
Registration District: Bath Sub District: Lansdown Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Trinity Walcot Municipal Borough: Bath
Address: St John Place, Trinity Walcot, Bath County: Somersetshire

Daniel
1881
LOVE, Frederick Head Married M 36 1845 Boot CloserBath Somerset
LOVE, Mary Wife Married F 39 1842 Bath Somerset
LOVE, Amy Daughter Single F 16 1865 Domestic ServBath Somerset
LOVE, Bessie Daughter Single F 13 1868 ScholarBath Somerset
LOVE, Daniel Son Single M 11 1870 ScholarBath Somerset
LOVE, Louisa Daughter Single F 7 1874 ScholarBath Somerset
LOVE, Auther Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Bath Somerset

RG number: RG11 Piece: 2441 Folio: 15 Page: 23
Registration District: Bath Sub District: Lansdown Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Bath Walcot Municipal Borough: Address: 13, Monmouth St, Bath Walcot County: Somersetshire

Births Dec 1894
Love Frederick Arthur - Pancras 1b 121

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Births Jun 1895
Love Frederick Arthur - Mile End 1c 511


Maybe you have the birth cert of the first one and the marriage cert of another .



Maybe this one if he said he was 32 in 1932


Births Mar 1898
LOVE Frederick Arthur - Bristol 6a 19

Daniel
1891
LOVE, George L Head Married M 47 1844 Boot Machinist Somersetshire
LOVE, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 45 1846 Devonshire
LOVE, George A Son Single M 18 1873 Bootmaker London
LOVE, Daniel Nephew Single M 21 1870 Boot Fitter Somersetshire
LOOSE, Frederick Nephew Single M 10 1881 London

RG number: RG12 Piece: 23 Folio: 136 Page: 54
Registration District: Kensington Sub District: Kensington Town Enumeration District: 33
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Clements
Civil Parish: Kensington Municipal Borough: Address: 308, Lancaster Road, Kensington County: London

The birth certificate I have for Frederick Arthur Love is a copy dated 6th March 1925 so this could be it is the wrong one, Frederick Arthur was a closed book who didn't talk about family so there is no way that I can confirm this, however the marriage certificate is correct so I can only assume the birth certifcate isn't. Frederick Arthur did serve in the Durham Light Infantry during the WW1 would he have given his parents name on army papers and has anyone any suggestion how I go about finding out this information? Thanks again for all help receive.

Flynn

P.S. Frederick Arthur was born 1894 typing error.and as he died on 27th December 1967 his birthday month and day could be any time in the year which is frustrating.

???

Name: Frederick Love
Regiment or Corps: Durham Light Infantry
Regimental Number: 44866

Once again, Who were the witnesses at the 1916 marriage?

This request was originally posted on GR on 11th May................what happened to your other thread, Flynn?

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Births Jun 1895
Love Frederick Arthur - Mile End 1c 511

Name: Fredk A Love
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End, London, England
Civil parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 58
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 188
Piece: 1631
Folio: 139
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick W Love 45 Occ Portmanteau Maker
Eliza Love 31
Fredk A Love 6
Maude E Love 4
Elisie E Love 1

1891:
Name: Frederick Love
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Phillips
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Portmanteau Maker, leather

Condition as to marriage: single

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 300
Folio: 14
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hill 54
Mary A Hill 49
Frederick Love 34

1881:
Name: T.W. Love
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Brother in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 51 Rutland St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Portmanteau Maker
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 471
Folio: 79
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Fitch 31
Florence Fitch 25
Edith Fitch
T.W. Love 24