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Gavin

Gavin Report 22 Jul 2011 11:36

Does anyone have any information about a George Seppings (could be spelling variation) Mitchell b 1777 (baptism on 25/05/1777) and d circa 1847. He married an Elizabeth Everitt. I'm unsure of her dates but I do believe they were married in Fakenham on 31/01/1814. They had two children, a Mary Ann b 1820 in Fakenham. I'm unsure if she married or when she died and another George Seppings b 1827 who emigrated to New Zealand although Im unsure when.

George (1777 George that is) father was John Mitchell and I beleive he was born c1838 and died in 1793. I beleive he may have married a Frances Seppings in Fakenham, hence where the Seppings name comes into my family tree??

Any help would be appreciated

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 11:51

Start by looking in search trees.........

And please do a check on your dates........born 1838......died 1793?

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 11:53

Have you looked for George's death on freebmd?

Try the same site for info about the daughter............

How have you worked back to these people?

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 12:00

the only occurrence of forename Seppings combined with surname Mitchell on Ancestry
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: George Mitchell
Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1860
Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1860
Father's name: George Seppings Mitchell
Mother's name: Ann Mitchell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street
Borough: Camden

Address: 39, Augustus St
Father's occ: Servant
Child's DOB 15th August 1859

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Jul 2011 12:03

Name: George Sepping Mitchell
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 May 1827
Baptism/Christening Place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Mitchell
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03227-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1595483
Reference Number: 107
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Jul 2011 12:10

Name: Mary Ann Mitchell
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 May 1820
Baptism/Christening Place: Fakenham, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Mitchell
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02260-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471055
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 12:12

1861

Name: George Mitchell
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Mitchell
Gender: Male
Where born: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
[Fakenham, Norfolk, England]

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regents Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 193
Piece: 97
Folio: 72
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
George Mitchell 33
Ann Mitchell 37 b. Ashurst. Kent
Selina Mitchell 14 b. Penshurst. Kent
George Mitchell 1
William Webley 32

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Jul 2011 12:14

Frances Seppings
Pedigree
Female
Family

Event(s):
Birth:
About 1742 Of, Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: John Mitchell
Family
Marriage:
14 JUN 1763 Fakenham, Norfolk, England

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Jul 2011 12:17

GI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

Frances Seppings
Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
08 JUL 1740 Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: Covenant Seppings
Family
Mother: Ann

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I032273 Film
Sheet:

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 12:19

?????????????

Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bridges Joseph Marylebone 1a 809
Ellis James Taylor Marylebone 1a 809
Keast Mary Marylebone 1a 809
Mitchell George Marylebone 1a 809 <<<<
Roberts Ann Marylebone 1a 809 <<<<<

Based on........................

1851

Name: Selina Roberts
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Visitor
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Penshurst, Kent, England

Civil parish: Cowden
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Sevenoaks
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 1613
Folio: 611
Page Number: 12

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Jul 2011 12:21

Children of John Mitchell and Frances Seppings

Covenant Mitchell - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 03 MAR 1764 Fakenham, Norfolk, England
2. John Mitchell - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 SEP 1774 Fakenham, Norfolk, England
3. Bridget Mitchell - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 JAN 1780 Fakenham, Norfolk, England
4. Frances Mitchell - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: NOV 1767 Fakenham, Norfolk, England
5. Pleasance Mitchell - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 FEB 1772 Fakenham, Norfolk, England

Gavin

Gavin Report 22 Jul 2011 20:55

Thanks for the research guys, as Im on the other side of the world I couldnt back to you earlier.
To give you some more information

Sorry that should have been John was born about 1738

I've worked back to these people from my great great grandfatther George William Mitchell b 18/08/1859 at St Pancras Middlesex. Somewhere between the 1861 census and 1863 they migrated to NZ where I have better access to their records. The only problem I had with the NZ records was one of his certificates says he was born in NZ while another one said he was born in England.I think he may have lied about the NZ DOB as it doesn't make sense

His father I believe was George Seppings Mitchell b 1827 in Fakenham. He married Ann Roberts

His father was also a George Seppings Mitchell also born in Fakenham in 1777. He married Elizabeth Everitt in Fakenham in 1814

and finally his father was John who the intial query was about...

I dont have any certificates from England yet to prove this however.

Gavin

Gavin Report 22 Jul 2011 21:00

Most of the above info I have however Flick, it appears Selina was born to Ann from a previous marriage.

My biggest stumbling block is John and Frances still, as Tenerfie Sun points out, none of their children is named George. Perhaps this is not my relation after all

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 21:34

Not necessarily from a previous marriage...........in the case of Ann's child.

You say that you have 'worked' back from George born 1859.....then say you 'believe' his father was........etc.

If you wish to have accurate info, I would strongly advise that you buy the cert for George's marriage to Ann. It will tell you the name and occupation of his father.......

George William may not have realised that he was born in England...........if he wasn't given the info by his parents, he'd have had no reason to think he hadn't been born where he grew up

The baptism I posted for George born 1859 removes any doubt you may harbour about the names of his parents

Flick

Flick Report 22 Jul 2011 21:52

Name: George Seppings Mitchell
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 25 May 1777
Baptism/Christening Place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Mitchell
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Frances
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05244-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1595483
Reference Number: item 15
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
_______________________________________________________

Name: John Mitchell
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Sep 1774
Baptism/Christening Place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Mitchell
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Frances
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05244-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1595483
Reference Number: item 15
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
_________________________________________________________

Name: Covenant Mitchell
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Mar 1764
Baptism/Christening Place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Mitchell
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Frances
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05244-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1595483
Reference Number: item 15
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
______________________________________________________

Name: Pleasance Mitchel
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Feb 1772
Baptism/Christening Place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Mitchel
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Frances
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05244-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1595483
Reference Number: item 15
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
___________________________________________________

Name: Frances Mitchel
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Nov 1766
Baptism/Christening Place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Mitchel
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Frances
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05244-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1595483
Reference Number: item 15
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


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Gavin

Gavin Report 23 Jul 2011 03:47

Thankyou so much Flick for your help and advice. You have opened up a whole new area for me to research. Much appreciated

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jul 2011 13:08

One of these COULD be your John Mitchell 1738

e: John Mitchel
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 15 Sep 1737
baptism/christening place: SAINT MARY,SOUTH WALSHAM,NORFOLK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Mitchel
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04144-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 894724
reference number:

OR

name: John Mitchell
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Jun 1738
baptism/christening place: Norfolk, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Mitchell
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Mitchell
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I01393-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041782
reference number: item 5 p 81

OR this one in Fakenham

name: John Mitchel
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Feb 1738
baptism/christening place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Samuel Mitchel
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Esther
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I03227-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595483
reference number: item 14 p 31

Gavin

Gavin Report 23 Jul 2011 13:15

Thanks for your help as well Tenerife Sun....One would assume that the John Mitchell born in Fakenham would be my best bet.... I think its time to invest in some certificates.

I know what info you get the most from in NZ, but for the English certificates, do you get more information out of a wedding certificate or a birth certificate?

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jul 2011 20:57


In the case of John Mitchell 1738 Fakenham there will not be certificates as the date is too early for this

Birth Certificate

When and Where born. Childs name. Sex. Fathers name. Mothers name and maiden name. Fathers occupation. Signature of informant. Date registered. Signature of regisitrar.



Marriage Certificate

Date married. Grooms name. Brides name. Ages of both. Staus (ie batchelor, widowere etc) Occupation of groom. Residence of both at time of marrieage. Fathers names of both bride and groom and if deceased. Occupation of father.


Wendy


Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jul 2011 21:06

Also to Samuel Mitchell and Esther in Fakenham


name: Elizabeth Mitchel
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Jan 1743
baptism/christening place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Samuel Mitchel
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Esther
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I03227-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595483
reference number: item 14 p 33


name: Esther Mitchel
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 May 1741
baptism/christening place: Fakenham, Norfolk, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Samuell Mitchel
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Esther
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I03227-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595483
reference number: item 14 p 32


Wendy