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24 Jul 2011 15:12 |
Looking into John and Hannah Pearson, Lancashire, I found a puzzle in their daughter, Elizabeth's, marriage. They had 6 children Alice, born abt 1823, George, abt 1825, Charlotte, abt 1826, Elizabeth, abt 1833, Thomas, abt 1836 and Hannah, abt 1838. First 4 born Worsley, last 2 Bolton. Losing track of John and Hannah I looked for children. Charlotte had married Robert Abbotson so when I found the eldest daughter Alice, unmarried, with her 2 nieces Annie and Mary Abbotson on 1881 census I knew this was correct. Also on the return was Elizabeth Butterworth, sister, married and under occupation it had 'wife of Thomas Butterworth'. Though this was unusual I was glad of the extra info. However, I can't find a marriage between an Elizabeth Pearson and Thomas Butterworth although I can find a marriage between what looks like the youngest, Hannah, and a Thomas Butterworth in 1858. I have found a few likely deaths for a Hannah Butterworth before this census. Elizabeth and Thomas may have just been living together but I would welcome other sugestions. Sorry this was so longwinded but thank you for reading it.
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MarieCeleste
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24 Jul 2011 15:17 |
Hello Alan - welcome to the boards!
Where have you been searching for marriage records?
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Vanessa
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24 Jul 2011 15:19 |
1881 For ref: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Alice PEARSON Head U Female 58 Worsley, Lancashire, England Grocer & Provision Dealer Annie ABBOTSON Neice U Female 28 Bolton, Lancashire, England School Mistress Mary ABBOTSON Neice U Female 23 Bolton, Lancashire, England Dressmaker Elizabeth BUTTERWORTH Sister M Female 48 Worsley, Lancashire, England Wife Of Thomas Butterworth, Oldham -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 11 Osborne Census Place Great Lever, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341920 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3848 / 64 Page Number 15
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MarieCeleste
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24 Jul 2011 15:22 |
.. and the 1841 for reference:
PEARSON, John M 40 1801 < Flour Dealer PEARSON, Hannah F 35 1806 Lancashire PEARSON, Alice F 15 1826 Lancashire PEARSON, George M 15 1826 Lancashire PEARSON, Charlotta F 15 1826 Lancashire PEARSON, Elizabeth F 8 1833 Lancashire PEARSON, Thomas M 6 1835 Lancashire PEARSON, Hannah F 3 1838 Lancashire Registration District: Bolton Sub District: Bolton Eastern, Great Civil Parish: Bolton Municipal Borough: Bolton
Address: Bradshaw Gate, Bolton, Bolton, Great County: Lancashire
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Vanessa
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24 Jul 2011 15:23 |
Given the ages it could be that Elizabeth had been previously married so would not marry Thomas as a Pearson?
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Vanessa
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24 Jul 2011 15:36 |
I dont have full access to census, but Elizabeth is listed as Betty Butterworth, in Oldham on 1891 - maybe somebody could display the full record. Given that I found this possible marriage:
Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Butterworth Thomas Oldham 8d 902 Taylor Betty Oldham 8d 902
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alan
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24 Jul 2011 15:38 |
Thanks to all. I have searched for mariage records on Freebmd, here and FindMyPast. Didn' t think of looking for a previous mariage for Elizabeth. What puzzled me was that Elizabeth gave this information on the census. The line 'The lady doth protest too much' sprang to mind. Back to the records.
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alan
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24 Jul 2011 15:42 |
Thanks Vanessa, You had replied while I was writting the last message. First time I have used the message boards and I really appreciate everyone's help
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 15:46 |
As this is Lancashire, have you googled the Lancs OPC?
It has a wealth of knowledge and may even have something you need?
T x :-D
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Vanessa
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24 Jul 2011 15:54 |
Lancs bmd seem to have a marriage not listed on Freebmd:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1863 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference PEARSON Elizabeth BUTTERWORTH Thomas Eccles Parish St Mary's Salford C1/19/286
The register from the church would have this entry which would list the fathers name!
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Vanessa
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24 Jul 2011 15:56 |
Likewise for the Taylor/Butterworth previously posted:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1864 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference TAYLOR Betty BUTTERWORTH Thomas Christ Church, Glodwick Oldham CEA1/199
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 15:56 |
Got this?
Baptisms: 15 Aug 1824 Ellenbrook Chapel, Worsley, Lancashire, England George Pearson - Child of John Pearson & Hannah Abode: Worsley Occupation: labourer
Baptisms: 11 May 1828 Ellenbrook Chapel, Worsley, Lancashire, England Lucy Pearson - Child of John Pearson & Hannah Abode: Worsley Occupation: labourer
Baptisms: 9 Jun 1833 Ellenbrook Chapel, Worsley, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Pearson - Child of John Pearson & Hannah Abode: Worsley Occupation: labourer
Baptisms: 7 Jun 1835 Ellenbrook Chapel, Worsley, Lancashire, England Thomas Pearson - Child of John Pearson & Hannah Abode: Worsley Occupation: labourer
Baptisms: 7 Jan 1838 Ellenbrook Chapel, Worsley, Lancashire, England Hannah or Florence? Pearson - Child of John Pearson & Hannah Abode: Bolton <<----- note the abode! Occupation: labourer
Tracey xx
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 15:59 |
A Pearson/Abbotson marriage?
Marriage: 2 Feb 1848 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Robert Abbotson - full Groom Bachelor of Great Bolton Charlotte Pearson - full Spinster of Great Bolton Groom's Father: Charles Abbotson, Farmer Bride's Father: John Pearson, Shop Keeper Witness: John Thompson; James Liptrot Married by Banns by: John Edwd. Cross Curate Register: Marriages 1847 - 1848, Page 228, Entry 456 Source: Microfilm of register at Manchester Library
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 16:00 |
....another Pearson marriage.
Marriage: 3 Feb 1849 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Thomas Wright - Full Ironmonger Bachelor of Bolton Harriet Pearson - Full Spinster of Haulgh Groom's Father: Charles Wright, Ironmonger Bride's Father: John Pearson, Maker Witness: William Yeats; Charlotte Booth Married by Licence by: J. Slade, Vicar Register: Marriages 1848 - 1849, Page 188, Entry 376 Source: Microfilm of register at Manchester Library
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 16:00 |
...and again
Marriage: 25 Apr 1853 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Thomas Dunn - full Tin Plate Worker Bachelor of Great Bolton Mary Pearson - (X), minor Spinster of Great Bolton Groom's Father: Michael Dunn, Tailor Bride's Father: John Pearson, Basket Maker Witness: Charles Ashall; James Liptrot Married by Banns by: R. Harries Jones Curate Register: Marriages 1852 - 1853, Page 102, Entry 203 Source: Microfilm of the register at Manchester Library
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Vanessa
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24 Jul 2011 16:00 |
This would be the Hannah/Thomas marriage:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1858 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference PEARSON Hannah BUTTERWORTH Thomas Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/121/431
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 16:01 |
Marriage: 18 Jan 1854 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Jonathan Heaton - full Porter Bachelor of Little Bolton Mary Pearson - (X), full Spinster of Little Bolton Groom's Father: Thomas Heaton, Turner Bride's Father: John Pearson, Weaver Witness: Mr. Charles Halls; Hannah Pearson Married by Banns by: William Booker Curate Register: Marriages 1853 - 1854, Page 49, Entry 98 Source: Microfilm of register at Manchester Library
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 16:01 |
Marriage: 16 Sep 1855 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England William Pearson - (X), full Butcher Bachelor of Great Bolton Eliza Cheetham - (X), full Spinster of Great Bolton Groom's Father: John Pearson, Basket Maker Bride's Father: Joseph Cheetham, Spinner Witness: John Blackley; Robert Scholick, (X) Married by Banns by: W. H. Coates Curate Register: Marriages 1854 - 1856, Page 139, Entry 277 Source: Microfilm of register at Manchester Library
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alan
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24 Jul 2011 16:02 |
Thanks to all again. You have given me a brillia start. However, I have been doing this instead of getting petrol so will have to leave.
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WayneTracey
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24 Jul 2011 16:03 |
You might find some of them relevant or not!
But at least you have them for reference :-)
T x
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