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JacquiandSteve

JacquiandSteve Report 25 Jul 2011 18:24

I have been trying ot find out about my grandfather, James J (beleived to be John) Vincent. He was born on 25th August 1897 and married on 11th July 1931 to Elsie Selina May Barnes. These detsails came from my late grandmother.
This is all this information I have. I do not know where he was born and can find no trace on either the 1901 census nor the 1911 census. I can not find find a birth on BMD either! I am at a loss.
Can anyone help or suggest where else I can look?
Yours in anticipation
Jacqui

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2011 18:26

The marriage. A copy of the cert would confirm his age and fathers name/occupation if known.

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
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Barnes Elsie S M Vincent Islington 1b 678
Vincent James J Barnes Islington 1b 678

Andy

JacquiandSteve

JacquiandSteve Report 25 Jul 2011 18:29

Thanks Andy for your swift reply.
I have managed to find the marriage, and death of James Vincent but that is all.
I would love to find out more about hime - where he was born and lived.
Jacqui

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Jul 2011 18:30

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British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about James John Vincent
Name: James John Vincent
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Age at enlistment: 18
Residence: Wakefield House, Harpenden
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 1871
Regiment Name: Machine Gun Corps (I)
Number of images: 13

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2011 18:32

Have you got the actual marriage cert, This should name his father if known so help to place him on the 1901/11 census

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 25 Jul 2011 18:32

The marriage certificate would hopefully show his father's name and occupation which might help to find the family in census.

Gwyn

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2011 18:32

James Vincent is a common name - there are 14 on 1901 census with date of birth 1897 +/- 1 year. Without the info from marriage cert, you cannot find the correct one.

Andy

JacquiandSteve

JacquiandSteve Report 25 Jul 2011 18:39

Thanks for the replies.
I will get hold of a copy of the Marriage Certificate asap!
Thanks again.
Jacqui

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 25 Jul 2011 18:47

The soldier posted by Lindsey was a printer.
His next of kin is shown as his mother Emily Vincent ..Houghton married again..... She lived in 76 Huddleston Road,London.

Not quite sure how to read that bit !

Gwyn

JacquiandSteve

JacquiandSteve Report 25 Jul 2011 18:55

OMG - That is him.
My gran told me that he was a printer and that his mother was Emily Vincent nee Lacock, and yes she married again to a Houghton! But I could never confirm these detisals as Gran didn't like to talk about it too much.
How can I look at these records please?
I have shivers running up and down my spine now!!
Thank you so much.
Jacqui

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2011 19:03


In that case, this should be his parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Lacock Emily Amelia Pancras 1b 165
Vincent James Pancras 1b 165


and more deatail. A copy of the cert for this marraige is online

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about James Vincent Name: James Vincent (Pianforte maker)
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Emily Amelia Lacock (Barmaid)
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 May 1894
Parish: St Mary the Virgin, Somers Town
County: London
Borough: Camden
Father Name: James Vincent
Spouse Father Name: William Lacock




Andy

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Jul 2011 19:05

click on my name and send me your email address and I will send you the images which you will need to save to your compter.

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2011 19:12

Baptism for James

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about James John Vincent Name: James John Vincent
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1897
Baptism Date: 7 Nov 1897
Father's name: James Edward John Vincent
Mother's name: Emily Amelia Vincent
Parish or Poor Law Union: Friern Barnet St James the Great
Borough: Barnet

Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2011 19:13

Marriages Mar 1912

Vincent Emily A Houghton Edmonton 3a 735


So she should be on the 1911 as Emily Vincent

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2011 19:17

a sister for Janes?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Ethel Emily Eleanor Vincent Name: Ethel Emily Eleanor Vincent
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1897
Baptism Date: 7 Nov 1897
Father's name: James Edward John Vincent
Mother's name: Emily Amelia Vincent
Parish or Poor Law Union: Friern Barnet St James the Great
Borough: Barnet

Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2011 19:24

Name: Ethel Emily E Vincent
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 73

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 25 Jul 2011 19:32

1901 census transcription details for: 1, Woodward Villas, Fryern Barnet

RG number: RG13 Piece: 1236 Folio: 68 Page: 14


Reg. District: Barnet Sub District: Finchley
Parish: Fryern Barnet Enum. District: 19
Ecclesiastical District: St James City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Woodward Villas, Fryern Barnet
County: Middlesex


VINCIENT, James Head Married M 36 1865 French Polisher
St Pancras
London
VINCIENT, Emily Wife F F 35 1866
St Pancras
London
VINCIENT, Ethel Daughter Single F 6 1895
St Pancras
London
VINCIENT, James Son M 4 1897
Friern Barnet
VINCIENT, Muriel Daughter F 2 1899
Friern Barnet


Maureen

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2011 19:45

Well found Maureen



Ancestry version of 1901!!!

No wonder I couldn't find it. Correction sent.

1901 England Census
about James Kinsint Name: James Kinsint
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Kerset
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras

Civil parish: Friern Barnet
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Barnet
Sub-registration district: Finchley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 1236
Folio: 68
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
James Kinsint 36
Emily Kerset 35
Ethel Kerset 6
James Kerset 4
Mureal Kerset 2




Andy

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 25 Jul 2011 19:57

Wow,Andy! That's a bad one!!!

Still don't see them in 1911,though.

Maureen

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Jul 2011 20:10

BETTS, Clifford Head Married M 58 1853 Traveller Wooden Norfolk East Dercham VIEW
BETTS, Elizabeth Sophia Wife Married
34 years F 56 1855 Glostershire Struod VIEW
TINNER, Maud Elizabeth Niece Single F 26 1885 Music Teacher Middlesex Southgate VIEW
VINCENT, Emily Visitor Widow F 39 1872 Music teacher London Hampstead VIEW
VINCENT, Ethel Visitor Single F 16 1895 Drapers Assistant London Camden Town VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7274 Reference:
RG14PN7274 RG78PN354 RD132 SD2 ED29 SN225

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Wood Green Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Wood Green

Address:
23 Princes Avenue Wood Green N