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Looking for James Shaw dob 1839

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Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 20:14

I am looking for George Shaw dob 1839 and his son James dob 1869. I have found them on 1891 census in Oldham. Could I please beg some help with finding them on either 1881 or 1901 census- I am interested in the occupations of George and James. Also was George married at any time thank you for your help

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 2 Aug 2011 20:21

Surely if you have them on the 1891 census you know occupations and if George was married.

Posting this for ref so is this them.1891?
SHAW, George Head Widower M 52 1839 Iron Labourer
Woodbrook
Yorkshire VIEW
SHAW, James E Son Single M 22 1869 Iron Turner
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
LESTER, Ann Aunt Widow F 56 1835 House Keeper
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
BRODIE, William Adopted Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3312 Folio:
101 Page:
24

Registration District:
Oldham Sub District:
Oldham Below Town Enumeration District:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James

Civil Parish:
Oldham Municipal Borough:
Oldham Address:
5, Platt Street, Oldham County:
Lancashire

George

Researching:
My avatar is that of my Dad and shipmates, taken onboard HMS Blanche in 1938, place unknown From left to right, my Dad,Sidney Mellor and Sidney Bateman.

Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 20:27

Thank you, I only have basic info on them, not the occupations and marital status. thanks for your help

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 2 Aug 2011 20:29

Eileen

Do you think then the 1891 census i have posted is them?

George

Researching:
My avatar is that of my Dad and shipmates, taken onboard HMS Blanche in 1938, place unknown From left to right, my Dad,Sidney Mellor and Sidney Bateman.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Aug 2011 20:32

???
Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
Shaw George 58 Oldham 8d 532

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 20:32

Yes this is the family, thanks

Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 20:36

Hi Prickly Holly
Thats interesting, this could be George's death. I am interested in what happened to the adopted son William Brodie. As I have a William Brodie on my Tree. thanks

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 2 Aug 2011 20:40

This could be james shaw in 1901, he is married to Alice.

SHAW, James Head Married M 33 1868 Clogger (Journeyman)
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Alice Wife Married F 32 1869
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Robert Son Single M 9 1892 Scholar
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Annie Daughter Single F 6 1895 Scholar
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Nellie Daughter Single F 4 1897
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Bertha Daughter Single F 1 1900
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW
HAMSON, Charley Boarder Single M 22 1879 Joiner (Journeyman)
Oldham
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3816 Folio:
11 Page:
14

Registration District:
Oldham Sub District:
Oldham Above Town Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James's

Civil Parish:
Oldham Municipal Borough:
Address:
26, Bower Street, Oldham County:
Lancashire

Marriage

Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
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ANYON Elizabeth Oldham 8d 981
Jones Joseph Oldham 8d 981
ROBINSON Alice Oldham 8d 981
SHAW James Oldham 8d 981

George

Researching:
My avatar is that of my Dad and shipmates, taken onboard HMS Blanche in 1938, place unknown From left to right, my Dad,Sidney Mellor and Sidney Bateman.

Mary

Mary Report 2 Aug 2011 20:52

1881 5,Platt St Oldham same address as 1891??
George shaw 1839 wood turner
Betty 1842 Oldham wife
Joseph Ed son 1868 Wood Turner (James)!!
Betty Tweedale 1801 widow and boarder born Oldham.
Ann Tweedale widow born 1835 Oldham.

1871 address Oldham above town D11>28
all the same people as above.

Maryb.

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 20:53

Thanks George, That looks like James. I am wondering if the adopted son was living with Ann Lester, after the death of George, and the subsequent marriage of James. Thanks for your help

Mary

Mary Report 2 Aug 2011 20:58

Woodbrook Saddleworth Yorkshire.
1861 Saddleworth Delph D4 > 11
Edward Shaw 1815 Saddleworth
Alice 1805 Saddleworth
George 1839 Saddleworth.

Maryb

Edit George Shaw married Betty Tweedale in saddleworth O/N/D 1866.

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Aug 2011 21:02

??
1901 England Census
about Ann Lester
Name: Ann Lester
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Coldhurst Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: Oldham Union Workhouse

Ann Lester 66

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 21:02

Thanks Mary, thats great

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 2 Aug 2011 21:09

Ive had a look to see if i could find william Brodie, but cant see him on any census after the 1891.Perhaps he has changed his name

The only Ann Lester i could find that looks possible is this one, but ske is alone

LESTER, Ann Pauper Widow F 66 1835 Ret Cotton Weaver
Blind Oldham
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3813 Folio:
81 Page:
41

Registration District:
Oldham Sub District:
Oldham Below Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity Coldhurst

Civil Parish:
Oldham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Oldham County:
Lancashire

George

Researching:
My avatar is that of my Dad and shipmates, taken onboard HMS Blanche in 1938, place unknown From left to right, my Dad,Sidney Mellor and Sidney Bateman.

Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 21:09

Oh what a sad demise- Ann Lester ends up in a workhouse.

Eileen

Eileen Report 2 Aug 2011 21:16

Thanks , as usual GR members are very helpful to novices like my self

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 2 Aug 2011 22:52

just to correct the James / Alice marriage of george's

all the children shown in that 1901 census are listed on lancs bmd as mmn = Booth

eg
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1896
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SHAW Nellie Oldham Above Town Oldham BOOTH OAT/150/236

probable parents marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHAW James BOOTH Alice Oldham, Lower Moor, St. Stephen & All Martyrs Oldham CE237/1/465

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 2 Aug 2011 22:57

???

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LISTER James TWEEDALE Ann Oldham, St. Mary Oldham CE235/12/58

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 2 Aug 2011 23:04

???

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LISTER James TWEEDALE Ann Oldham, St. Mary Oldham CE235/12/58

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 2 Aug 2011 23:07

the Joseph Edward of Mary's 1881 - mmn = Tweedale

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SHAW Joseph Edward Oldham Above Town Oldham TWEEDALE OAT/60/319

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHAW George TWEEDALE Betty Saddleworth Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham S_WORTH_RM/2/66

Researching:
Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)

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