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Susan

Susan Report 4 Aug 2011 19:57

I am looking for the marriage of

Jeremiah Burton b 1838ish Winchmore Hill Middlesex/London
Clara Nicholl (variations) b 1846 Watford Hertfordshire.

In the 1911 census they have been married 42 years? I can't find a marriage for them at all.

Also trying to find Jeremiah on the 1861 census.
Thank you for any help
Sue
:-S

patchem

patchem Report 4 Aug 2011 20:02

For ref
1911
BURTON, Jerimiah Head Married 42 years M 71 1840 Driver Middlesex
BURTON, Clara Wife F 64 1847 Herts Watford VIEW
BURTON, Lilian Daughter Single F 24 1887 Glam Cardiff
BURTON, Florence Daughter Single F 21 1890 Cashier Glam Cardiff
MORRIS, Arthur Grandson M 10 1901 Glam Cardiff
DODINGTON, Dorothy Granddaughter F 2 1909 Glam Cardiff
BUCHANAN, Nelson Boarder Widower M 35 1876 Assistant Traenock Scotlan
BUCHANAN, Winifred Daughter F 6 1905 Glam Cardiff

RG number: RG14 Piece: 32106 Reference: RG14PN32106 RG78PN1846 RD588 SD3 ED7 SN42
Registration District: Cardiff Sub District: Central Cardiff Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Cardiff

Address: 4 Monthermer Road Cathays Cardiff County: Glamorganshire

12 children, 8 living

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Aug 2011 20:03

Hello Sue, did you get Clara's surname from one of the children's birth certificates?

patchem

patchem Report 4 Aug 2011 20:08

They are married by the 1871 census
Jeremiah Burton
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Winchmore Hill, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Sydenham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Sydenham

Clara Burton 24
Alfred Burton 4 Months

patchem

patchem Report 4 Aug 2011 20:10

This is missing a bride, but why Basford, so unlikely:
Marriages Sep 1868
Burton Jeremiah Basford 7b 223
CHETWYND Phillis Basford 7b 223
Cox John Basford 7b 223

patchem

patchem Report 4 Aug 2011 20:17

Is this his birth?
Births Dec 1838
Burton Jeremiah Edmonton 3 81

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Aug 2011 20:22

1851 England Census
Name: Clara Nichols
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Nichols
Mother's name: Mary Nichols
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Bushey
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Bushey
Piece: 1714
Folio: 154
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
William Nichols 31
Mary Nichols 33
Mary Ann Nichols 9
Homer Nichols 7
Clara Nichols 4
Elizabeth Nichols 2
Walter Nichols 6 MO
John Nichols 21

Susan

Susan Report 4 Aug 2011 20:25

Sorry my computer chose to close down and I had to wait for it to reload.
Yes Patchem that is the right Jeremiah.
MarieCeleste, I have Clara from the family Bible and also what is on Ancestry.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Aug 2011 20:36

1861 England Census
Name: Clara Nicholls
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Walford, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Emanuel
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Walklyng Cottages, George St

Occupation: House servant

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
Piece: 381
Folio: 5
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Price Bullock 41 - Dealer in Curiosities
Sarah Bullock 39
William Ballock 8
Thomas Bullock 6
Clara Nicholls 14

Susan

Susan Report 5 Aug 2011 07:26

I am very sorry once again. The comp was playing up so I got frustrated and gave up last night.
Thank you Ozibird for the 1861 census for Clara.
Still seems as if the 1861 for Jeremiah and the rest of the family is elusive.
If I phone Basford Registry office up would they be able to confirm if it is Clara Nicholls as the wife? :-S

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Aug 2011 07:50

1841

BURTON, John M 30 1811 (Blacksmith)
BURTON, Mary F 30 1811
BURTON, Edwin M 10 1831 Middlesex
BURTON, William M 8 1833 Middlesex
BURTON, Benjamin M 6 1835 Middlesex
BURTON, Mary F 4 1837 Middlesex
BURTON, Jermirah M 2 1839 Middlesex
BURTON, James M 1 1840 Middlesex

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
652 Book/Folio:
8/35 Page:
23

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Edmonton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Edmonton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Hopper's Lane, Edmonton County:
Middlesex

(just wondering for reference)

Chris :)

Susan

Susan Report 5 Aug 2011 09:27

Thank you Chris,
It is the 1861 that I can't find. Can't find it for any of the other family members either.
I have all the others attached to the family.

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 5 Aug 2011 13:09

There is a Burton family in 1851with several chldren born Winchmore Hill (as Jeremiah claims to be)

1851 Markham Place Tottenham
John Burton 40 Blacksmith b Waltham Herts
Mary 40 wife b Hendon Bucks
Edwin John 19 Blacksmith
William 18 Hose sevant
Benjamin Tinsley 16 Groom
Henry 14
Alfred 12
James 10
Reuben 8
Ann 6
Joseph 4 all born Winchmore Hill
Alice 2 b Tottenham
Rhoda 7mths b Tottenham

Then in 1841 (mistranscribed)
Hoppers Lane Edmonton
John Benton 30 Blacksmith N
Mary Benton 30 N
Edwin 10
William 8
Benjamin 6
Mary 4
JERMERAH 2
James 1 all children b Middlesex


N
Mary 4

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 5 Aug 2011 13:24

Curious that Jeremiah in 1841 has become Alfred in 1851
And I wonder about a marriage 1859 Mar Q in Clerkenwell for a Jeremiah Alfred Burton to either Agnes Emslie or Ann Wilson
Could it be the reason we cant find the marriage to Clara is that they were unable to marry becuse of an earlier union for Jeremiah?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 5 Aug 2011 14:04

1861 High road Tottenham
John Burton 50 wid Smith and farrier b Waltham Cross
Reuben 19
Joseph 16 both born Winchmore Hill
Alice 14
Rhoda 11both b Tottenham

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 5 Aug 2011 14:42

There is a Jeremiah Burton born 1844 bBasford Notts and died 1899 Jul Q Basford -so I dont think the Basford marriage refers to our Jeremiah

Susan

Susan Report 5 Aug 2011 18:20

GillianMac, Thank you for some info.
It has always puzzled me to find Alfred in the 1851 census only.
It sounds like you are on the right path for Jeremiah married in Clerkenwell.
I will look into that side of the marriage.
It would solve a lot of searching if that was the case.
At last a bit of gossip for my husbands side of the family. Makes a change from mine!!!
John Burton was a widow about 1858. That is the right man.

Susan

Susan Report 5 Aug 2011 18:26

I have just looked up Family Search and it is Ann Wilson. :-D

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 5 Aug 2011 19:46

Another possibility is that Jeremiah joined the army -he would have been 18 in 1857 and if he did the 12 year service stint would have left 1869 in time to link up with Clara -and would maybe have been serving abroad (India or Ireland) 1861

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 6 Aug 2011 13:22

I did find a J Burton aged 23 , Soldier born England in Infantry Barracks in 1861 inGlasgow, but this was on Ancestry and when I tried to get it up on Scotlandspeople I got "No Match"