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Fred was born c1892 in Lancashire if that helps to narrow down which one is him.

Yes Fred/Frederick is also another brother.

Is Fred a member of that same family? In addition to Charles Frederick, I mean




sylvia

Thank you Sylvia for explaning that.

Thank you ever so much for the emails George. It looks like Mary Ann and Charles William sent four sons to war. I daren't ask whether there is a Fred Aldous as well? It must have been an awful time for the family.

Elissa


the service records only name ONE person as next-of-kin

If the soldier is single, the order is Father, then Mother if father is dead (or left the family)

If the soldier is married, his Wife is NOK ............... replacing the parent named earlier if he marries after joining the forces.



sylvia

Elissa

there are service records on Ancestry for both a Percy & Cyril Aldous, the NOK is given as their mother

Mary Ann Aldous
17, Longshaw St Old trafford Manchester.

George

nothing has come up on fmp
sorry
maddie

Would anyone mind looking at the service record for Cyril Aldous born c1895 and Percy Aldous born c1896 and see where they come from or what their next of kins names are. Charles and Harold had brothers called Percy and Cyril but I don't know if they joined the army.

Thank you!

Thank you ever so much George.

I've just sent you a message. :)

Elissa

If no one else has offered/or to sent you the images of his service records, i can do them for you.

You need to send me your email address by PM

George

Thank you all for all your help.

Charles William Aldous was born 1857 in Colcehster. He married and moved to Manchester where he had his children with Mary Ann Cansdale. However he then left the family. I wondered whether the fact that Harold Frank had failed to name Charles William on his service record suggests that he had in some way disowned him because Charles William abandoned his mother. I have done a lot of reseach into the family but I'm now tryingto gauge their attitudes to Charles William leaving.

So do the service reocrds mother and father, or do they just record next of kin?

According to the 1901 Census, Charles William was a Commercial Clerk



Note that another tree on ancestry has his death as occurring in 1927 ...... but I seriously think this tree has confused and combined information on two Charles William Aldous's, both born in 1857. But one (yours) was born in Colchester, Essex and the other was born in Woolwich, Kent.




sylvia

from ancestry

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about Charles William Aldous

Name: Charles William Aldous
Probate Date: 10 Jun 1940
Death Date: 30 Apr 1940
Death Place: Essex, England
Registry: London

Charles William Aldous of Jessamine, Wingletye Lane, Hornchurch, Essex. Administration granted to Herbert Aldous, Retired Schoolmaster. Effects £75 13s 1d




sylvia

from beta.familysearch

www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records


record title: England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910

name: Charles Frederick Aldous
event: Christening
event date: 21 Oct 1883
event place: Hulme (St Mary), Lancashire, England
father: Charles William Aldous
mother: Mary Anne Aldous
digital folder number: 004497814


from freebmd.org.uk ...........

Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)

Aldous Charles William Colchester 4a 426
Causdale Mary Ann Colchester 4a 426




A tree of ancestry has Mary Ann's surname as Cansdale


and also has Charles William's death in 1940, in Manchester.



sylvia

Charles Frederick's records show next of kin as Charles William, Father

This is then crossed out and replaced with Ethel Aldous ........ he married Ethel Shaw in Macclesfield, 1 July 1916, and her address was 19 Union Rd, Macclesfield




sylvia

1891

so father's name was Charles
Harold F Aldous
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles W Aldous
Mother's name: Mary A Aldous
Gender: Male
Where born: Stretford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Stretford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bride
Town: Stretford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell
Sub-registration district: Stretford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3158
Folio: 33
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles W Aldous 34
Mary A Aldous 33
Alice M M Aldous 11
Ethel M Aldous 10
Charles F Aldous 7
Grace Aldous 5
Elsie V Aldous 3
Harold F Aldous 1
Emily H Cansdale 24 visitor

Charles W Aldous
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Aldous
Gender: Male
Where born: Colchester, Essex, England

1911
TAYLOR, Ernest Arthur Head Married M 29 1882 Dock Labourer Oxfordshire Chipping Norton VIEW
TAYLOR, Ethel Mary Wife Married
10 years F 30 1881 Lancashire Stretford VIEW
TAYLOR, Ernest Arthur Son M 10 1901 School Lancashire Manchester VIEW
TAYLOR, James Fredrick Son M 8 1903 School Lancashire Manchester VIEW
TAYLOR, Alice Kate Daughter F 5 1906 School Lancashire Manchester VIEW
ALDONS, Harold Frank Brother In Law Single M 21 1890 Invoice Clerk Lancashire Stretford VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23889 Reference:
RG14PN23889 RG78PN1380A RD464 SD4 ED24 SN94

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Hulme Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
South Manchester

Address:
11 Orvil St Hulme Manchester County:
Lancashire

ALDOUS, Mary Ann Head Married
32 years F 53 1858 Colchester Essex VIEW
ALDOUS, Alice daughter Single F 31 1880 Dressmaker Manchester Lancashire VIEW
ALDOUS, Charles Fred Son Single M 27 1884 Commercial Clerk Manchester Lancs VIEW
ALDOUS, Dorothy Daughter Single F 16 1895 Sewing Machinist Stretford Lancashire VIEW
ALDOUS, Cyril Son Single M 16 1895 Clerk Stretford Lancashire VIEW
ALDOUS, Percy Son M 14 1897 Office Boy Stretford Lancs VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23645 Reference:
RG14PN23645 RG78PN1376 RD463 SD3 ED23 SN131

Registration District:
Barton upon Irwell Sub District:
Stretford Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Stretford

Address:
17 Langshaw St Old Trafford County:
Lancashire

Thank you ever so much, that's really helpful. Is there no place to record father, or has it just been left blank?

If it has been left blank would you mind looking at the service record of his brother Charles Frederick Aldous to see if the same has been done on his?

Mother: Mary Ann Aldous, living in Old Trafford.

Married 24/5/1915 to Sarah Ellen Blagburgh in Stretford

Daughter Muriel born 28/5/1916

Joined up 2/9/1914 5'5" tall, Weight 115lbs, Chest 32" fully expanded, Grey eyes, Auburn hair.

Served in France 8/11/1915~8/7/1916, 18/4/1917~23/12/1918

Transferred to Class Z (Reserve) 25/3/1919

Awards: Star, British and Victory medals.

Elissa,

I have never successfully managed to do that before. If you bear with me I will post any other information that I spot when reading the service records.