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Evening all,
Does anyone have access to Canadian records and could help me confirm the parents of John (aka Jack) Antan Smeeton Phillips, born 1915, died 2005.

I was looking for information on Antan Phillips and Beatrice Smeeton who married and emigrated to Canada in 1915 when I stumbled across Johns death notice. The names etc make it too much of a coincidence for him not to be their son, however I have learnt from past mistakes, and so before I add him to my tree, I want to confirm his parents. Unfortunately my budget for ancestry doesnt stretch to worldwide information and am struggling to find anything further about him without full access.

Any help / suggestions of places to look would be VERY greatfully received.

Thank you.
Karen

Hello Karen, do you know what collection it was in - I'm having trouble finding it.

Hello,
He came up in a search on ancestry, with a link to rootsweb -

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CANADA-OBITS/2005-03/1111087429

Karen

This is the original record that i found on ancestry. No further information is available from what I can tell on the weblink.

Name: John Antan Smeeton "Jack" Phillips
Obituary Date: 18 Mar 2005
Death Date: Abt 2005
Death Place: Bc
Age: 90
Birth Year: abt 1915
URL: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.c...

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Oh, I see. Well, I'm not finding anything on Ancestry Worldwide for him, but their records don't, I believe, cover the whole of Canada.

One of our Canuck friends on here might be able to help further. (But I'll keep digging around).

Thanks for looking.
Its really hard to know where to look / subscribe for the best value for money...

This was Antan arriving in Canada in 1913:


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Antan Phillips
Name: Antan Phillips
Gender: Female <(no he wasn't!)
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Date of Arrival: 6 Jun 1913
Vessel: Empress of Britain
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4797

He was travelling with Beatrice, age 22, and his occupation was Clerk. He states he'd been to Canada before to visit his brother. His onward destination was Victoria.

Thank you.

Check back later in case I find anything else!

Thanks again. :)

Antan's death record:


British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
about Antan Phillips
Name: Antan Phillips
Gender: Male
Age: 86
Death Date: 11 Jul 1975
Place of Death: Vancouver
Registration #: 1975-09-010861
BCA #: B13343
GSU #: 2050443

Could this be Beatrice's?


British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
about Beatrice Annie Phillips
Name: Beatrice Annie Phillips
Gender: Female
Age: 64
Death Date: 25 Mar 1955
Place of Death: North Vancouver
Registration #: 1955-09-003772
BCA #: B13223
GSU #: 2032984

Brilliant,
Thank you.
Very possibly hers - her middle initial is A.
:)

That's as much as I can find for now.

I have worldwide mainly for US records, so don't know a lot about Canadian records. But, if I understand correctly, they have much stricter privacy laws so most collections are not very recent. For example, Ancestry's collections for BC stop at 1899 for births and 1924 for marriages.

(However, I don't mind being enlightened by a Canadian expert if I'm wrong!)

Thank you so much, really appreciate it.

He enlisted for WW1 in Canada:

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Antan Phillips Name: Antan Phillips
Residence: Old Drill Hall, Victoria, British Columbia
Birth Date: 2 May 1889
Birth Location: South Turner, Victoria, British Columbia
Relative: Beatrice Annie Phillips
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 2223336

Original says birthplace Burton on Trent, England. Present address was 46 South Turner St., Victoria, BC.

Published in the Victoria Times-Colonist on 3/17/2005.
PHILLIPS, Jack (John Antan Smeeton) Of Denman Island passed away on Mar 2nd. Just shy of his 91st birthday, he made his passage peacefully with his Doctor, family and health care workers with him at home on Denman Island. Predeceased by his wife Mary in 1993, he leaves sons Antan (Tony) and family in Nanoose, Noel and family in Ladysmith/ Chemainus, Delbert and family of Denman Island and daughter Leslie Lundgren and family in Duncan. He leaves 3 younger brothers, Vic and Randy in North Vancouver and Ray of Courtenay. Jack was born in Metchosin, lived for a while in Beaverlodge Alberta, and grew up in Capilano, North Vancouver. Jack and his brothers ran LiteCraft, a North Vancouver Boat Building Company in the 1940s and 50s. Jack moved to Lake Cowichan in 1960 as Assistant Forest Ranger. He finished his career working in the woods, road building and finally as licensed painter at Crown Zellerbach. Jack and Mary left Lake Cowichan in 1979 to retire on Denman Island. He served numerous terms as president of the Lake Cowichan Legion and held executive positions with the Denman Legion. An Artillery soldier, Jack served in Italy, France, Germany and helped liberate Holland. Before going overseas he worked at Boeing Aircraft where his sense of humour served him well. He once spray painted Royal Airforce Insignias on a Dragonfly's wings, and brought the insect to the head office claiming he'd discovered the Allies secret weapon to win the war. They were not amused. His wit and intelligence will be missed. A living memorial was held for Jack on his 90th birthday last year, a party he truly enjoyed. A tea in his honour will be held on Denman Island in May.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CANADA-OBITS/2005-03/1111087429

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
Survived - no listing for Antan at http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14

NB 1) In Victoria, go down Government St, 1km past the Empress. South Turner is a block W, near the water, maybe 400m from Beacon Hill Park.
2) From Victoria, head up the inner (Georgia Strait) coast 180 km. Denman Is is 1 km off-shore - it's abt 15 x 5 km in size.

I didn't check out:
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-32F2B78/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths
http://bccfa.islandnet.com//homepage.html

Thanks Margee and mgnv.
I am trying to confirm that the Jack Smeeton mentioned is in fact the son of Anton - the names etc are a HUGE coincidence if not....
I dont want to add all those mentioned to my tree if its incorrect.

You might consider direct contact with the mourners:
http://www.mytelus.com/phonebook/display.do

NB The UK is 8 hrs ahead of most of BC if you phone.

You'll have seen from the BC BMDs URL I posted that if Jack were born 1914 in BC, then you've another 24 y to wait out the closure period.