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gatehouse

gatehouse Report 11 Sep 2011 10:09

found the connection of ada bartle living with mrs gatward [niece ]
sharp bartle marr lydia hardaker.
children.
frank born 1860.
marr 1894 bfd
minnie southwart.
children
george b 1896 tottonham middlesex
edith b 1898 tottonham middlesex
edith marr 1926 to harry f gatward edmonton,middlesex.
edith was the niece of ada
thanks again for yor help.
best regards lisa

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Sep 2011 16:50

Hi Lisa, you're very welcome. Do come back and update this thread when you've got dome more information.

I've found some possible US census records for Jane Bartle as Jane Walters (Ada did say she was visiting her sister Mrs Walters).

gatehouse

gatehouse Report 10 Sep 2011 14:33

hi.
i have found the connection .
sharp bartle born 1837-1898. hortn bfd.
married lydia hardaker.
children.
frank born 1860.
married 1894bfd.
minnie southwart. born 1867.
children.
george born 1896 tottonham middlesex
edih born 1898 tottenham middlesex
edith married 1926 to harry f gatward edmonton middlesex.
once again thanks for all your help,edith was the neice that ada bartle .
best regards lisa.

gatehouse

gatehouse Report 10 Sep 2011 10:45

hi marieceleste.
i am going to see who the bartle children married.& get in touch with the lady in usa who has the bartles in her tree ,
i will let you know what i find.
thank you for all your help on this it is most welcome.
best regards lisa.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 22:10

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Jane Bartle
Arrival Date: 26 Jun 1907
Birth Year: abt 1879
Birth Location Other: Bradford
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race- /Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Caronia

She was a dressmaker, going to visit a Mrs E Sharpe at 323 Haggart Street, Jamestown New York. She had $110 with her. Jane had a dark complexion, dark hair and brown eyes.

** In the 1901 UK census Ada's sister Jane was a dressmaker.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 22:06

Lisa, you're very welcome. Yes, it might have been better to have added to that last thread, but no harm done!

On that 1947 flight arrival posted earlier, it states Ada was going to visit her sister Mrs Walters. Have you traced any of her sisters marrying a Walters and going to US? Or marrying after getting to US.

gatehouse

gatehouse Report 9 Sep 2011 21:08

marieceleste
glitterbaby
margee.
thank you all for your help with ada.
lisa.

the last one i posted for ada was for a probate,should i have just added on to that thread.

gatehouse

gatehouse Report 9 Sep 2011 21:04

in the 1891 census living at 27 st margarets road bradford yorkshire.
sharp bartle.lydia.
children frank age 31 yrs
walter age 26yrs
ada age 14yrs
jane age12yrs
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1901 census.
sharp died 1898
lydia age 64yrs
ada 24yrs
jane age22yrs still living 27 st margarets road bradford yorkshire.
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the reason i was looking for info on ada was because i am m in touch with another member of the bartle family from usa but she has only just started her tree and does not know much about the family over here.
lisa.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 20:58

Just noticed this:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1279666

Lisa, it would have been a good idea to have added your request to your last thread - keeps everything in the same place. :-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2011 20:49

So are you trying to trace her after 1911 ?

gatehouse

gatehouse Report 9 Sep 2011 20:43

yes glitterbaby
that is her living with the holt family.
but her father was sharp bartle .mother lydia bartle [ nee hardaker born 1834. horton bradford yorkshire.
lisa

gatehouse

gatehouse Report 9 Sep 2011 20:34

in 1911 she was living 27 victoria terrace,st margarets rd bradford yorkshire born 1877 bradford,
she was a spinster,school teacher
father sharp bartle mother lydia,
looks like it is the right oneshe must have moved out of bradford.
thanks lisa

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2011 20:34

1911 probably this one - Bartle on image

HOLT, Harry Head Married
29 years M 57 1854 Worsted Spinning Manager Clayton West Yorkshire VIEW
HOLT, Rhoda Daughter Single F 29 1882 Assistant School Mistress Marsden Yorkshire VIEW
BATLE, Ada Boarder Single F 34 1877 Assistant School Mistress Bradford Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26811 Reference:
RG14PN26811 RG78PN1542 RD498 SD4 ED1 SN134

Registration District:
Bradford Sub District:
Horton Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Bradford

Address:
27 St Margarets Road Great Horton Bradford

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2011 20:31

1911 ?
BARTLE, Ada Wife Married
15 years F 36 1875 House Wife Castleford Yorks VIEW
BARTLE, Clara Emma Daughter F 12 1899 Leeds Yorks VIEW
BARTLE, William Son M 9 1902 Leeds Yorks VIEW
BARTLE, Rose Hannah Daughter F 2 1909 Leeds Yorks VIEW
BARTLE, Charles Henry Son M 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Leeds Yorks VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26919 Reference:
RG14PN26919 RG78PN1546 RD500 SD1 ED4 SN149

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
South East Leeds Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Leeds

Address:
3 South Terrace Hunslet Lane Leeds



Name: Ada Bartle
Birth Date: abt 1874
Age: 53
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 3 Sep 1927
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Albertic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Albertic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 147459


Address given as 6 South Terrace, Hunslet Lane,Leeds

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 20:31

Lisa, if you can tell us more about "your" Ada we'll see what we can find.

Although the home address on both records is Suffolk, the later record shows birthplace as Bradford, which could fit what you put originally.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 20:29


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Ada Bartle
Name: Ada Bartle
Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1947
Birth Year: 1877
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Bradford
Age: 70
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race- /Nationality: English
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Airline: American Overseas Airlines

Her home address was Waterloo House, Kessingland, Lowestoft, Sussex. Her nearest relative at home was Mrs Gatwar (niece).

She had been to the US several times and was planning on staying 60 days this visit.She was visiting her sister Mrs Walters in West Lake Street, Lakewood, New York.

Ada was 5ft 3in, had brown hair and hazel eyes.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Sep 2011 20:27

The 1947 list.
Ada Bartle
Home address: Waterloo House, Kensingland, Lowestaff?, Suffolk
Birth: 26 March 1877, Bradford, England
Proposed length of stay: 60 days
Nearest relative at home: Mrs. Gaiwar? (niece), (something?) Green, London
Relative in US: Mrs. Walters (sister), (Can't see address), Lakewood, New York

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2011 20:26

Are you expecting her to be married ?

gatehouse

gatehouse Report 9 Sep 2011 20:25

thank you glitterbaby
it looks like she is the wrong ada bartle
regards lisa

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2011 20:22

1936
UK address travelling to
Waterloo Ho, Kessingland,Lowestoft, Suffolk

No occupation listed