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DottyAnn
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17 Sep 2011 10:56 |
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My Great Grandmother's brother was Newman Seaton born 1834 Gawcott, Bucks. I have him on the 1841, 1851 censuses and in 1861 in West Bromwich, Staffs. I cannot, however, find any trace of him after 1861 or his family. I cannot find a marriage for him, any birth registrations of his children or deaths for him and his wife. With a name like Newman, I thought he would be easy to trace. Maybe someone else might think of something to help that I haven't thought of! regards Ann
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Sep 2011 11:00 |
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according to the census he was born in 1828 1861 census Name: Newman Seaton Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Rowenna Seaton Gender: Male Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:King street
Occupation:railway Labourer
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 211 Piece: 2026 Folio: 42 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Newman Seaton 33 Rowenna Seaton 23 Thomas Seaton 5 William Seaton 3 Charles Seaton 8 MO Thomas Seaton 62
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2026; Folio: 42; Page: 41; GSU roll: 542905
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17 Sep 2011 11:01 |
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age rounded down in 1841 Name: Newman Seaton Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Buckingham Hundred: Buckingham Borough County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Buckingham Sub-registration district: Buckingham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 62 Book: 14 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Webb 10 Elizabeth Badrith 25 Newman Seaton 15
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 62; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Buckingham; County: Buckinghamshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: ; Page: 2; Line: 24; GSU roll: 241221.
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DottyAnn
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17 Sep 2011 11:04 |
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Shirley Sorry about that. Have just checked, he was baptised in 1827, don't know why I put 1834, senior moment, I guess!
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17 Sep 2011 11:17 |
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Speculating about the wife's identity..........
1841?
Name: Rowena Munton [Rowena Manton] Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Gender: Female Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Desborough Hundred: Rothwell County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Rothwell Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 809 Book: 5 Folio: 15 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Edward Munton 70 Charles Munton 35 Rowena Munton 35 Harriott Munton 15 Ann Munton 12 Elizabeth Munton 10 Rowena Munton 3 Charles Munton 1 MO ____________________________________________
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Name: Rowena Marton [Rowena Manton] Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Marton Mother's Name: Rowena Marton Gender: F (Female) Where born: Desbro, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Desborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 1744 Folio: 412 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Charles Marton 46 Rowena Marton 46 John Guins 24 Ann Guins 22 Rowena Marton 12 Thomas Marton 7 ____________________________________________
Marriage for the above............
William Bennett Oct-Nov-Dec 1855 Kettering Northamptonshire Rowena Manton Oct-Nov-Dec 1855 Kettering Northamptonshire
Either it's completely the wrong woman.............or she dumped Mr Bennett, and moved in with Mr Seaton
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Sep 2011 11:18 |
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Maybe he went to Scotland or emigrated, cant see anything after 1861
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17 Sep 2011 11:20 |
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FMP is picking him up on the 1851
SODD, Thomas Head Married M 47 1804 Ag Labourer Burton Coggles Lincolnshire VIEW SODD, Jane Wife Married F 46 1805 Ag Labourer's Wife Grantham VIEW SODD, Betsy Daughter Unmarried F 9 1842 Scholar Burton Coggles VIEW SODD, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 4 1847 Scholar Burton Coggles VIEW SODD, Catherine Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Scholar Burton Coggles VIEW HARRIS, Benjamin Inmate Unmarried M 29 1822 Rail Labourer Buckinghamshire VIEW BARRET, James Inmate Unmarried M 19 1832 Rail Labourer Buckinghamshire VIEW LAFFERY, Thomas Inmate Unmarried M 22 1829 Rail Labourer Buckinghamshire VIEW STAG, Henry Inmate Unmarried M 29 1822 Rail Labourer Barbridge Wiltshire VIEW SEATON, Newman Inmate Unmarried M 24 1827 Rail Labourer Buckinghamshire VIEW MENDHEAW, John Inmate Unmarried M 45 1806 Bricklayer On Railway Norwich VIEW MOORE, Joseph Inmate Unmarried M 37 1814 Ag Labourer Burton Coggles Lincolnshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 2102 Folio: 135 Page: 33 Registration District: Grantham Sub District: Colsterworth Enumeration District: 14 & 15 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Burton Coggles Municipal Borough: Address: 14, Cottage, Burton Coggles County
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DottyAnn
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17 Sep 2011 11:22 |
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Hi Shirley You have the correct Newman in 1841 and 1861. Thomas age 62 in 1861 was his father who I think died that same year.Where did they all go after 1861? Oldest sister Elizabeth married in Australia in 1854 so emmigration is a possibility but I haven't found anything to substantiate that. Ann
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Flick
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17 Sep 2011 11:26 |
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For info only........children shown on 1861 all born Desborough
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17 Sep 2011 11:30 |
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1871
I think this may confirm my speculation
Name: William Bennett Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Desborough, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Desborough Town: Desborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Rothwell ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 43 Piece: 1505 Folio: 68 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Charles Manton 66 Rowena Manton 66 Thomas Bennett 14 William Bennett 13
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Sep 2011 11:36 |
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Cant see anymore Would suggest you check Scotlands People
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DottyAnn
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17 Sep 2011 11:38 |
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I found the 1851 details, looks as tho they were all in cottages, maybe some sort of settlement whilst building a railroad? Could William Bennett maybe be a very bad mistranscription of Newman Seaton?? The marriage would fit in with age of Thomas Seaton,5 in 1861. Will have to check 1861 for a William Bennett with wife Rowena. Ann
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17 Sep 2011 11:40 |
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No problem Betty. i know all about senior moments too lol
so heres Thomas still in the same area SEATON, Thomas Registration District: West Bromwich County: Staffordshire Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume No: 6B Page No: 339
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17 Sep 2011 11:43 |
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1871 I keeplooking at this family Name: Rowena Cross Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Cross Gender: Female Where born: Desborough, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Desborough Town: Desborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Rothwell ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 67 Piece: 1505 Folio: 70 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age John Cross 32 Rowena Cross 32 Charles Bennett 10
Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENNETT Rowena Kettering 3b 299 CROSS John Kettering 3b 299 HOBSON Mary Kettering 3b 299 Wade Joseph Kettering 3b 299
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17 Sep 2011 11:44 |
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Thomas Marlow Bennett
Christening: 15 SEP 1856 Desborough, Northampton, England Father: William Bennett Family Mother: Rowana
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Flick
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17 Sep 2011 11:45 |
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Nice one, GB...........
As I suggested earlier......Rowena clearly never married Seaton
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DottyAnn
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17 Sep 2011 11:49 |
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Thanks Flick and Shirley, you've given me something to think about
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Sep 2011 11:59 |
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It does look like they never married and the children werent his, They parted and maybe he emigrated too as theres no further record of him on the England/Wales records
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17 Sep 2011 11:59 |
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Name: Rowena Cross Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Kettering Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 106 __________________________________________________
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Name: Rowena Cross Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Northants, Desborough Civil parish: Desborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles Town: Desborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Rothwell ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1218 Folio: 31 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Rudolf J Hief 31 John Cross 52 Rowena Cross 52 Louisa E Bennet 5 ******************
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DottyAnn
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17 Sep 2011 12:03 |
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Just seen your last posts, fully agree, especially as the ages of the 'Seaton' children on the 1861 match the ages of the 3 Bennett boys in 1871. Wonder where Newman went, then?
Thank you all so much for finding the above, your experience clearly shows. regards Ann
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