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Gwyn,
How very sad.
Hopefully you will find some survivors.

Regards Vera

Following some of these through on freebmd I found a possible marriage of an Evelyn H. SHEATH to a Thomas BRIGGS.

Noting that the last child of that marriage seemed to be in 1942, I looked for a possible death for Thomas on Commonwealth War Graves site only to find there that many more of the family perished in the war

Deaths Jun 1943

Briggs Evelyn 25 Sunderland 10a 631
Briggs Mary I 58 Sunderland 10a 601
Briggs Michael F 0 Sunderland 10a 631
Briggs Thomas 3 Sunderland 10a 631

Off to look for survivors now.

Gwyn

Thank you Vera... I wondered about that one too, especially as he had the 3 forenames.

Will investigate...........

Gwyn

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Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Brown William John J Southampton 2c 17


Regards Vera

Thank you Vera.

I will investigate that William BROWN a bit more., to see if that clarifies the situation.

Freebmd suggests that there might be more children for William and Isabella SHEATH , so I'd better check them out too.

Many thanks everyone for your input and great searching.
I'm very grateful.

Gwyn

Hi,

1911 ?????
William Brown Soldier born Southampton age 21 ..... Private ....... Infantry.

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6046 Reference:
RG14PN6046 RD100 SD1 ED24 SN9999

Registration District:
South Stoneham Sub District:
St Mary Extra Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
Hound

Address:
County:
Hampshire
Regards Vera

1911 no William sorry..

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SHEATH, Edward Head Married M 51 1860 Blacksmiths Ships Hampshire Southampton VIEW
SHEATH, Sarah Wife Married
21 years F 53 1858 Hampshire Southamp VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5974 Reference:
RG14PN5974 RG78PN273B RD99 SD1 ED40 SN44

Registration District:
Southampton Sub District:
Southampton Eastern Enumeration District:
40 Parish:
St Mary

Address:
19 Grove St Southampton County:
Hampshire

REgards Vera

Oh... I'm too slow.
Thank you too Marie Celeste and safc.

So the picture is more muddled than I thought, but is gradually sorting out.

So did young William stay as a BROWN?
Please could someone see if he is still with his grandfather Edward SHEATH in 1911.
Edward and Sarah were still alive in Southampton ? then

Gwyn

Thank you too Vera.

I have not found any Sunderland SHEATH births.
It is very much a southern name, apart from a clutch in the Birmingham area, at that time.

I think WHJ Sheath is the son of an Edward.b. abt 1857 in Southampton. I think his (E's) wife Sarah Ann died in 1884 ( perhaps the reason Caroline took him in ) and Edward later married another Sarah in1889.

I have just seen a note on my PC tree that Edward and Sarah have a grandson, William BROWN aged 3 with them in Southampton in 1901 census...... the surname of William's possible later wife..

Gwyn

But - that 1911 appears to be a lodging house. The proprietor completing the return may not have been aware of his lodger's private lives. He may have assumed that William was single because he didn't have a wife with him. William may have even said he was single for whatever reason.

I reckon little Alice must have been the third child from the 1911:

Deaths Sep 1909
SHEATH Alice 3 Sunderland 10a 261

???????

Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Sheath Alice Sunderland 10a 730

BROWN, Robert Head Widower M 53 1858 Police Constable Northumberland Blyth
BROWN, Fred Son Single M 25 1886 Electric Tram Conductor Northumberland Bedlington
SHEATH, Isabella Daughter Married F 27 1884 Northumberland Bedlington
BROWN, Alice Daughter Single F 23 1888 Durham Sunderland VIEW
BROWN, Matthew Davison Son Married M 21 1890 Ship Plumber Durham Sunderland
SHEATH, Martha May Grandchild F 6 1905 School Durham Sunderland
SHEATH, Fred Harband Grandchild M 2 1909 Durham Sunderland

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RG number: RG14 Piece: 30195 Reference: RG14PN30195 RG78PN1741 RD555 SD2 ED14 SN389

Registration District: Sunderland
Sub District: Sunderland East
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Sunderland

Address: 13 Lans St So Sunderland County: Durham

** Isabella had borne 3 children, 1 had died.

You searched for:
Marriages for the period 1901-1910: Surname sounds like 'sheath' and Forename/Initial = ''.
Surname Forename(s) Year of Marriage
BROWN Isabella 1904 Select
SHEATH Wlliam J 1904

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1399

Thank you Flick.

I still think this may be him.... Was he married?... I see that has been added, Thank you.

If it's the one I think it is, he was living with a married aunt , Caroline MCGREGOR in Durham by 1891, so perhaps he didn't know he was born in the south???
She was Caroline SHEATH


I wonder which one he married?....IF HE DID.
Is it possible to look for his wife please?

Gwyn

????

1901

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MCGREGOR, John Head Married M 53 1848 Shipyard Blacksmith
Pasterhill
Northumberland VIEW
MCGREGOR, Caroline Wife Married F 54 1847
Southampton
Hampshire VIEW
SHEATH, William Relative Single M 20 1881 Wine & Spirit Storeman
Southampton
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4713 Folio:
6 Page:
3

Registration District:
Sunderland Sub District:
South Bishop Wearmouth Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Pauls Hendon

Civil Parish:
Sunderland Municipal Borough:
Address:
23, Cousin Street, Sunderland, Town County:
Durham



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REgards Vera

Where was he living in 1901?

Where did you get his birth info?

Nothing on freebmd..... apart from this..........

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
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SHEATH William Henry J Southampton 2c 11

1911 ???


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SMITH, Ben Head Married M 41 1870 Dock Labourer United States VIEW
SMITH, Ellen Wife Married
15 years F 50 1861 Ilfracombe VIEW
KING, James Boarder Single M 42 1869 Dock Labourer Nottingham VIEW
SHEATH, William Boarder Single M 30 1881 Engines Cleaner Ships Sunderland VIEW
JOINER, Albert Boarder Single M 22 1889 Engine Fitter's Labourer Bristol VIEW
HARLOR, Thomas Boarder Single M 60 1851 Dock Slabouer Dorset VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5980 Reference:
RG14PN5980 RG78PN273B RD99 SD1 ED46 SN38

Registration District:
Southampton Sub District:
Southampton Eastern Enumeration District:
46

Regards Vera

Mirror image....lol!

Person: SHEATH, William
Address: 36 Threefield Lane Soton


SMITH, Ben Head Married M 41 1870 Dock Labourer United States VIEW
SMITH, Ellen Wife Married
15 years F 50 1861 Ilfracombe VIEW
KING, James Boarder Single M 42 1869 Dock Labourer Nottingham VIEW
SHEATH, William Boarder Single M 30 1881 Engines Cleaner Ships Sunderland VIEW
JOINER, Albert Boarder Single M 22 1889 Engine Fitter's Labourer Bristol VIEW
HARLOR, Thomas Boarder Single M 60 1851 Dock Slabouer Dorset VIEW

I have just found an 'out of area' marriage on freebmd for a possible relative.

Marriages Jun 1904

Brown Elizabeth Sunderland 10a 1229
Brown Isabella Sunderland 10a 1229
Lamb John Henry Sunderland 10a 1229
Sheath William John H Sunderland 10a 1229<<<<<<<<<<<

I think this may be William born in Southampton in 1880.
I may have found a Sunderland death of him in 1948

Please could someone see if they can find him in 1911?

Gwyn