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Thanks Teneriffe sun
I have that information already. Florence, the 2nd wife was actually Lydia's niece and had been living with them. She had 3 children by William prior to their marriage and whilst Lydia was still alive. Well she was pregnant with the 3rd at the time. Rum doings indeed.
Again my thanks
Phyll

I wondered if Ross was Leslie's mother maiden name but his mother was Ada Allen, she was his father William's 3rd wife.

Number one was Lydia Mapham c 1828 - 1887 aged 62. He married her in 1856 at Ticehurst Sussex

Number two was Lydia's sister Florence Mapham c1863 - 1901 aged 37. Florence was 20 years younger than William. Florence was living with Will and Lydia in 188. Will married Florence in 1888 at Lewes Sussex.

Number three was Ada Allen, Leslie's mum, born c 1863 and married Newhaven Sussex in 1901.

Here is the 1911 for Leslie if you don't already have it. It states married 9 years and 2 children both living. I think Elm farm had been on previous census's

Wendy


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
PAVEY, William Head Married M 78 1833 Farmer And Cattle Dealer Rotherfield Sussex VIEW
PAVEY, Ada Wife Married
9 years F 48 1863 Hampshire Alton VIEW
PAVEY, John Son Single M 19 1892 Farmers Son Working On Farm Sussex Falmer VIEW
PAVEY, Thomas Son Single M 15 1896 Farmers Son Working On Farm Sussex Falmer VIEW
PAVEY, Percieval Son M 7 1904 Sussex Patcham VIEW
PAVEY, Leslie Claude Son M 5 1906 Sussex Patcham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5173 Reference:
RG14PN5173 RD80 SD1 ED21 SN91

Registration District:
Steyning Sub District:
Preston Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Preston

Address:
Elm Farm County:
Sussex

Thanks Tony
I am more and more convinced that this is one and the same person.
Phyll

Just to add.

Might help confirm Leslie Claude Pavey...and Leslie Ross Pavey are the same person. ( born 1906 Sussex )

His enlistment record...WW11


Service Record
Name PAVEY, LESLIE ROSS
Service Australian Army
Service Number N224575
Date of Birth 12 Feb 1906
Place of Birth SUSSEX, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 8 Jan 1942
Locality on Enlistment COOGEE, NSW
Place of Enlistment RANDWICK, NSW
Next of Kin PAVEY, PERCY
Date of Discharge 27 Apr 1942
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge AASC (P) CANTEENS SERVICE DET
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No


Tony ( Australia )

Hi All
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
I am looking for Leslie Claude Pavey. I don't know where the 'Ross' has come from, assume he took it upon himself. He is shown as a Carman on the passenger list so his occupation as Motor driver fits.
Regarding Percival Pavey - I haven't found him with a middle name so I don't think the above is the one I want.
Once again I am astonished at the help I have been given and thank you all very much.
Phyll

Percival Alan seems to be someone else, born in Australia and younger than Lionel, so not the one that is in the archives with the photo as found by Alviegal unfortunately.

Information for you on Lionel and Evelyn if they are your rellies:

The 1943 Electoral Roll for the Subdivision of King, State: King, Commonwealth- East Sydney, shows Leslie Ross Claude and Evelyn Eileen Pavey residing at 106 Phillip Street. Leslie is employed as a Motor Driver; Evelyn is employed as a Saleswoman.

The 1949 Electoral Roll for the Subdivision of King, State: King, Commonwealth- West Sydney, shows Leslie Ross Claude and Evelyn Eileen Pavey residing at 106 Phillip Street. Leslie is employed as a Motor Driver; Evelyn is employed as a Saleswoman.

The 1954 Electoral Roll for the Subdivision of King, State: King, Commonwealth- West Sydney, shows Leslie Ross Claude and Evelyn Eileen Pavey residing at 106 Phillip Street. Leslie is employed as a Motor Driver; Evelyn is employed as a Saleswoman.

Hi AmazingGrace

The marriage posted above states both names, Leslie Ross Claude Pavey, so think they are likely one and the same.

Hu Phyll...just confirming, in case I have read this incorrectly, you are not looking for Leslie Claude Pavey, but Leslie Ross Pavey?

Because Leslie Claude definately exists...

The 1931 Electoral Roll for the Subdivision of Sandhurst East, State: Bendigo, Commonwealth- Bendigo, shows Leslie Claude Pavey residing at Brick Kiln, Thunder Street, Bendigo and employed as a Labourer.

In the 1936 Electoral Roll for the Subdivision of King, State: King, Commonwealth - East Sydney, Lelsie Claude Pavey is shown as residing at 21 Francis Street and is employed as a pantryman....

I am not sure how Leslie Ross relates to your chap..maybe he was a son or a nephew? On the electoral rolls, Leslie Ross is actually Leslie Ross Claude Pavey

Hi Phyll,

Burial details for Leslie Ross Pavey

Interment Date: 24 Mar, 1982
Age: 76
Location: GL34-General Lawn 34 Grave 2109
Where: Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park

For your info, death of Evelyn

Surname Given Name Notice Type Death Date Age Other Details Publication Published
Pavey Evelyn Eileen Death 29/4/2007 88 At Amity Nursing Home, Queens Park, formerly of Matraville Syd Morning Herald 2/5/2007

found on ryersonindex

Was Percival's middle name Alan? If so there is a photo of him on this link.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/PhotoSearchItemDetail.asp?M=0&B=11949244&SE=1

and this one.

http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/P01398.001

and a few articles here.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=pavey

Many thanks Gwen, have found him and possibly his brother. Just need to make sure. Also found another rellie.
Thanks you all once again, I think you're wonderful in what you do for us ignorant people.
Phyll

Not sure if records are available re. his enlistment.
I looked on Archives of Australia site

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

You don't need to register or log in, ...just click Search now, ..as a guest.

Gwyn

WOW Yes yes this is my Leslie. He had an older brother Percy. Is it possible to see the records somehow.
Thank you soooooo much everyone.
Phyll
Am leaving as unanswered for a little while now just in case...........

Death


Surname Given Names Notice Type Date Type Age Other Details Publication Published
PAVEY Leslie Ross Death notice 20MAR1982 Death 76 late of Matraville Sydney Morning Herald 22MAR1982

pm'd as thread closed

Have sent a pm to Phyll to let her know more information has been added here just in case she doesn't come back to the thread as she has marked it as answered.

Kath.x

In the 1911 census Leslie Claude Pavey has a brother called Percival Pavey, so the record Gwyn found looks right.

Kath. x

In case there is a link, I post this found on the Archives of Australia site......

PAVEY LESLIE ROSS : Service Number - N224575 : Date of birth - 12 Feb 1906 : Place of birth - SUSSEX ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - RANDWICK : Next of Kin - PAVEY PERCY

Gwyn

Possible marriage?


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 - about Lfslie Ross Claude Pavey
Name: Lfslie Ross Claude Pavey
Spouse Name: Evelyn Eileen Coleman
Marriage Date: 1943
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Paddington, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1943
Registration Number: 5026

Many thanks Kathleen and MarieCeleste. The address doesn't mean anything to me but I guess he went to London when he was old enough. if it is my Lelsie I don't blame him for wanting to get away.
Once again many thanks
Phyll