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1 Oct 2011 08:19 |
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Hi Everyone
Can some kind soul find me Arthur French bn 1890 Bulwell Nottingham in the 1911 census please. His Father was Charles French bn Hertsfordshire Coal miner and his mother was Mary J Bn Nottingham.
There address in 1901 was No 8 Horton St. Nott
Thank you Suex
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1 Oct 2011 08:28 |
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FRENCH, Charles Head M 49 1862 Coal Miner Loader Underground Stotbans County Herts VIEW FRENCH, Mary Jane Wife F 44 1867 Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW FRENCH, Alfred Son M 14 1897 Erand Boy Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW FRENCH, Leonard Son M 10 1901 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW FRENCH, Willie Son M 9 1902 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW FRENCH, John Son M 6 1905 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW FRENCH, Mabel Daughter F 3 1908 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW WHEAT, Betsy Mother In Law Widow F 60 1851 Lace Clipper Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 20582 Reference: RG14PN20582 RG78PN1230 RD430 SD3 ED42 SN98 Registration District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham North East Enumeration District: 42 Parish: Nottingham Address: 8 Hooton St Nottingham
Edit: GB has found him so I have edited this
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1 Oct 2011 08:32 |
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FRECH, Arthur Single ? 22 1889 Bulwell Nottinghamshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 34995 Reference: RG14PN34995 RD641 SD20 ED14 SN9999 Registration District: Sub District: Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Address: Hongkong South China 10TH THE KING'S OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY10TH
It is French on image so will do a name correction
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1 Oct 2011 08:40 |
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Do you have access to Ancestry ?
WW1 service records
Name: Arthur French Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age at enlistment: 29 Birth Parish: Bulwall Birth County: Nottingham Residence: 88 Minetoa St Bullsell Nottingham Document Year: 1918 Regimental Number: 768779 Regiment Name: Bn London Regt (Artists Rifles) Number of images: 14
He had previously served in Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry in Hong Kong- service number 9262
Next of kin given as Charles George French - Father
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1 Oct 2011 08:42 |
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Oops.....deleted. 11 children born, 10 living, 1 had died.
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1 Oct 2011 08:48 |
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Medal Card on Ancestry
Name: Arthur French Regiment or Corps: London Regiment 28th Regimental Number: 768779
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1 Oct 2011 08:51 |
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Pension Record on Ancestry
Name: Arthur French Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age at enlistment: 18 Birth Parish: Bulwell Birth County: Nors Document Year: 1907 Regimental Number: 9262 Regiment Name: Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry Number of images: 16
Next of kin shows Father Charles and Mother Mary etc. Address is given as 8 Hooton St
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Susan
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1 Oct 2011 09:14 |
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Thank You everyone
That is fantastic,just to fill you in a bit Arthur married Nellie Gibson my Oh's Grandmother . Arthur and Nellie came to OZ in around 1924 after they married 1919. I have never been able to find there passage even on the National Archives of OZ. I do have Ancestry that is where I traced him back but could not find him in 1911. Thankyou all for your help it has been invaluable.
Is there anywhere else that may show there passage to oz . Traveling with him was Nellie French bn 1898 Essex Kenneth Arthur French bn 1921 Essex (Oh's Father ) Nora French bn 1919 Essex.
Agaian Thankyou Suex
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1 Oct 2011 09:20 |
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Not got the right sub on FMP to view these records
FRENCH A 1891 M 1926 London Australia Fremantle FRENCH Dora 1875 F 1926 London Australia Fremantle FRENCH K 1922 M 1926 London Australia Fremantle FRENCH N 1897 F 1926 London Australia Fremantle FRENCH N 1920 F 1926 London Australia Fremantle
Given that 4 names match albeit on initials I would think that Dora might have been a separate traveller
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Susan
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1 Oct 2011 09:27 |
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Hi GB
Thankyou for that at least I have a year of travel that gives me something to go on . I don't know of a Dora but all the other names match.
Many Thanks for your help. Suex :-D
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1 Oct 2011 09:49 |
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passenger transcript details Name: Mr A FRENCH Date of departure: 18 September 1926 Port of departure: London Passenger destination port: Fremantle, Australia Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia Date of Birth: 1891 (calculated from age) Age: 35 Marital status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Traveller Passenger recorded on: Page 19 0f 39 The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Master K FRENCH Page 19 of 39 Mrs N FRENCH Page 19 of 39 Miss N FRENCH Page 19 of 39 Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: OTRANTO 146025 Capt H G Staunton Orient Australia 26601 12031 1344 (last address in UK, Kennor, Healing,Lincs.)
Chris :)
(also from that above address, Mr WA Pinney (26. Farmer), Mrs E (20) Master A (4mth)
Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pinney William A Gibson Grimsby 7a 1484
Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gibson Emily C Pinney Grimsby 7a 1584
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Susan
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1 Oct 2011 10:53 |
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Hi Chris
What can I say but thankyou so very much ,you have no idea how long I have been searching for this info Can you tell me what site you used please.
And that extra info on the Pinneys it all ties in with what I know from this end. They all,came out together to do farming in the lower South West of Western Australia. Emily Gibson was Nellies Sister.
Again Thankyou so much. Suex :-D :-D :-D
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Susan
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1 Oct 2011 12:06 |
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Hi I have just finished reading the miltary record of Arthur French bn 1889( his first stint that is no 9262 Kings own Yorkshire Infantry) on reading this it has thrown us a big shock it appears he was married before he married Nellie . It states on his record that his first wife and child died in a fire in Hong Kong,the family has had no knowledge of this what so ever.
How do I find more details of ths union and Fire ,I would dearly love to find this for the family anyone have any Ideas as to where to start with this one . Suex
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1 Oct 2011 12:08 |
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FMP should have overseas Military births. Sadly my sub does not cover those records
There is an entry for Ronald French born 1901 Hong Kong but have no idea if connected or not
BUT at the moment not finding a marriage in Hong Kong
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Susan
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1 Oct 2011 12:13 |
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Thanks GB I don't have FMP only Ancestry unfortunately I don't have World cover.
It is such an intriguing story I just have to find out somehow,I won't sleep a wink tonight...this darn Genealogy it really gets you in big time.
Suex
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1 Oct 2011 12:15 |
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Is he shown as widower on the marriage to Nellie ?
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1 Oct 2011 12:20 |
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Rule out that 1901 birth as Arthur did not enlist until 1907
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1 Oct 2011 12:34 |
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FMP has this death entry but no idea if a child or adult
FRENCH George Corps: King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 1915
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1 Oct 2011 12:42 |
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No GB .....on his marriage cert to Nellie he is down as 28 and a Bachelor living at 88 Minuerta St it all ties in lovely with What has been found and on his Military records it is the same Address.
I don't think there marriage was very good not much closeness between them so the story goes.
Thankyou for your interset GB so I guess you have had the bug longer than me then. Suex
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Susan
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2 Oct 2011 05:17 |
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Hi
That Death Rego for George looks interesting it may have been his child . He left his first stint in the Army 1912 and stayed on in Hong Kong as a Chinese Labour Manager I suspect this is when he married and had a child all be for them to die in a fire in Hong Kong.
I have found Arthur returning to the Uk In 1918, you guessed it back to 88 Minurta St. Nott He rejoined the Army (Short Service)Again in 1918 left 1920
Can anyone with World Ancestry find his possible marriage in Hong Kong .
Suex
I know it is a lot to ask ,Appreciate any help
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