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9 Oct 2011 19:40 |
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Hi; Looking for info on a Marion Litchfield born 1859/1860 . She married Samuel Hopkins, in Cambridge 1881, and later re-married to Alfred Lawe in Cambridge 1896. I do not know who her parents are, or if she had any siblings.
Thank you :-)
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9 Oct 2011 19:45 |
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One of her marriage certificates will give her father's name and occupation.
Or, better still buy her birth certificate.
Births Mar 1859 LITCHFIELD Marion Cambridge 3b 525
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9 Oct 2011 19:48 |
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1881 census after her marriage says born St Giles Cambridge, so this might be her, but as rootgather says, best to by her birth cert
1861 England Census about Mary Ann Litchfield Name: Mary Ann Litchfield Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Litchfield Mother's Name: Ellen Litchfield Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Cambridge St Giles Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 108 Piece: 1027 Folio: 37 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age John Litchfield 24 Ellen Litchfield 29 Mary Ann Litchfield 2 Julia Litchfield 3Mo Andy
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9 Oct 2011 19:51 |
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???
1861
Name: Mary Ann Litchfield Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Litchfield Mother's Name: Ellen Litchfield Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Cambridge St Giles Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 108 Piece: 1027 Folio: 37 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age John Litchfield 24 Labourer Ellen Litchfield 29 Mary Ann Litchfield 2 Julia Litchfield 3Mo
1871
Name: Mary A Litchfield Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Granddaughter Mother's Name: Ellen Litchfield Gender: Female Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Ely Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 139 Piece: 1590 Folio: 77 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Henry Pont 50 Sarah Pont 52 William Pont 20 Frederick Pont 15 Nelly Pompey 17 Sarah Pompey 58 Ellen Litchfield 39 Mary A Litchfield 12 Sarah A Litchfield 6 William C Litchfield 4
Who were the witnesses at her marriages please?
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10 Oct 2011 08:25 |
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1901 LOWE, Alfred Head Married M 35 1866 Painter Girton Cambridgeshire LOWE, Marion Wife Married F 41 1860 College Servant Cambridge HOPKINS, Elizabeth S Step Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cambridge HOPKINS, Percy Step Son M 15 1886 Errand Boy Cambridge HOPKINS, Bertie Step Son M 13 1888 Cambridge HOPKINS, William Step Son M 10 1891 Cambridge HOPKINS, Frederick Step Son M 7 1894 Cambridge Piece: 1533 Folio: 62 Page: 10 Registration District: Cambridge Civil Parish: Cambridge Municipal Borough: Address: 9, Honey Hill, Cambridge County: Cambridgeshire
1911 LOWE, Alfred Head Married M 46 1865 House Painter Girton Cambs LOWE, Marion Wife Married 15 years F 54 1857 College Servant Cambridge Cambs HOPKINS, Elizabeth Step Daugther F 26 1885 Laundry-Hand Ironer Cambridge Cambs HOPKINS, Frederick Stepson Single M 17 1894 Errand Boy Boot Cambridge Cambs RG number: RG14 Piece: 9057 Reference: RG14PN9057 RG78PN481 RD180 SD1 ED7 SN126 Registration District: Chesterton Sub District: Chesterton Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Chesterton Address: 31 Histon Road Chesterton Cambridgeshire County: Cambridgeshire Chris :)
Parish Records Collection - burial Forenames: Marion Surname: LOWE Residence: of 28 Bermuda Terrace Day: 30 Month: Sep Year: 1930 Age: 71 Notes: Parish: Cambridge, St Luke (Chesterton) County: Cambridgeshire,England Grave details: Histon Road Cemetery
Parish Records Collection - burial Forenames: Samuel Surname: Hopkins Residence: of St Giles Court Day: 4 Month: Apr Year: 1895 Age: 44 Notes: Parish: Cambridge, St Giles County: Cambridgeshire
(first Marriage, taken from St. Giles Parish cd)
St. Giles Cambridge 1881 31st March Hopkins Samuel full bac postman Gloucester Street son of Samuel gardener decd Litchfield Marion full sp dressmaker of Northampton Street dau of John James decd wits. John Hopkins Jane Ann Swan
British Postal Service Appointment Books, 1737-1969 about S Hopkins Name: S Hopkins Date Appointed: 1875 Place Appointed: Cambridge (Situation to which Nominated, Bag Collector)
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10 Oct 2011 13:46 |
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Hi Chris;
Thanks for the info you sent to me re: Marion Litchfield. I see that acording to the marriage info, Marion's father was given as John James, deceased. Would this mean that Marion's mother had re-married to a Litchfield since Marion has this name as a surname and not "James"? I hope you could shed some light on this fact.
Thanks, Rob :-)
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10 Oct 2011 13:56 |
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Hello Robert, James was the middle name...below are Marriage Banns from St. Giles.
1856 2nd November Litchfield John James bac of Madingley. Robinson Ellen Elizabeth sp of St. Peter
Chris :)
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11 Oct 2011 13:18 |
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Chris;
WOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
Thank you so very very much. Thjis really fills in a lot of missing details. My next task will be to obtain a copy of her birth record, as this will hopefully confirm her parents as well. If I can help you with anything in Canada, please let me know.
Regards;
Rob ;-)
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11 Oct 2011 13:24 |
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Parish Records Collection - baptism Day: 9 Month: Sep Year: 1832 Forenames: Ellen Elizabeth Surname: Robinson Relationship: dau of Father forenames: Charles Fathers occupation: taylor Mother forenames: Sarah Birth Day: 18 Birth Month: Aug Birth Year: 1832 Abode: of Gloucester Street Place: Cambridge, St Giles County: Cambridgeshire
Chris :)
(link below a useful one for Cambs.)
http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html
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11 Oct 2011 13:27 |
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Births Mar 1861 Litchfield Julia Cambridge 3b 489
Deaths Dec 1863 LITCHFIELD Julia Cambridge 3b 339
Deaths Dec 1867 Litchfield John James 30 Cambridge 3b 308
Births Mar 1865 Litchfield Sarah Ann Cambridge 3b 525
Births Mar 1867 LITCHFIELD William Charles Cambridge 3b 530
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11 Oct 2011 13:31 |
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Not seeing Burials though for John James and Ellen...(have checked other cd's for that area)
Chris :)
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11 Oct 2011 14:03 |
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1881
Name: Ellen Elizth. Litchfield Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: St Giles County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: 2 Gentles Court Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Charwoman Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1670 Folio: 61 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Elizth. Litchfield 49 Sarah Ann Litchfield 16 William Charles Litchfield 14
The 1871 census that I posted above is a bit of a mess! On the actual image the Pont family are unrelated to Ellen - and her father has been missed out altogether!! so to correct
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Name: Ellen Litchfield Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Robinson Gender: Female Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Ely Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 139 Piece: 1590 Folio: 76 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Charles Robinson Head, Mar, 62, Tailor, b. Beds. Biggleswade Sarah Robinson Wife, Mar, 58 b. Cambs. Cambridge Ellen Litchfield 39 Daur, Wid, 39, Annuitant, b. Cambs. Cambridge Mary A Litchfield 12 Grddaur, b. Cambs. Cambridge Sarah A Litchfield 6 Grddaur, b. Cambs. Cambridge William C Litchfield 4 Grdson, b. Cambs. Cambridge
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11 Oct 2011 14:25 |
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Charles is on his own in 1881
Name: Charles Robinson Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Biggleswade, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: St Giles County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: 2 Warrens Yard Condition as to marriage: Widow Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Formerly a Tailor Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1670 Folio: 45 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Charles Robinson 73
These look like two transcriptions of the same death but slight difference in the age.
Deaths Sep 1880 Robinson Sarah 68 Cambridge 3b 322 ROBINSON Sarah 69 Cambridge 3b 322
Maybe Charles but the age is a year out from the 1881 census.
Deaths Jun 1881 ROBINSON Charles 72 Cambridge 3b 300
1861
Name: Charles Robinson Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Robinson Gender: Male Where born: Bigleswade, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Cambridge St Giles Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 1027 Folio: 50 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Charles Robinson 50 Sarah Robinson 47 Haidee Robinson 15 Allice Freeman 15 Niece 1851
Name: Charles Robinson Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Robinson Gender: M (Male) Where born: Biggleswade, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Cambridge St Giles County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: 7 Castle Street
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 3c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Piece: 1760 Folio: 867 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Charles Robinson 41 Tailor and Robe Maker Sarah Robinson 38 Chaster Robinson 17 Mary Ann Robinson 15 Julia Robinson 10 Haidee Robinson 5
Births Sep 1840 Robinson Julia Cambridge 14 20
Births Mar 1846 Robinson Haidee Cambridge 14 18
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11 Oct 2011 14:32 |
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1841
Name: Sarah Robinson Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: St Giles Hundred: Cambridge Borough County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 86 Book: 9 Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Charles Robinson 30 Sarah Robinson 25 Ellen Robinson 8 Charles Robinson 7 Mary Ann Robinson 5 Julia Robinson 8 MO
And a bit of luck Ellen is with her maternal grandparents in 1851..
Name: Ellen Robinson Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: F (Female) Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Cambridge St Giles Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 45 Piece: 1760 Folio: 889 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age John Freeman 63 Brickmaker Elizabeth Freeman 60 Ellen Robinson 19 Clara Webb 20 Servant Sarah Landfield 89 Nurse All born Cambridgeshire
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11 Oct 2011 14:50 |
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Name: John Freeman Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: St Giles Hundred: Cambridge Borough County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Giles Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 86 Book: 10 Folio: 11 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age John Freeman 50 Brickmaker Elizabeth Freeman 50 Charles Freeman 20 Tailor
Submitted Record - needs proof
Sarah Freeman Birth: About 1811 Of St Giles, Cambridge, Cambridge, England Marriages: Spouse: Charles Robinson Family Marriage: 26 JAN 1832 St Giles, Cambridge, Cambridge, England
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12 Oct 2011 13:39 |
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Parish Records Collection - marriage Day: 3 Month: Nov Year: 1856 Groom forename: John James (x) Groom surname: LITCHFIELD Groom's residence: otp Groom's condition: bac Groom's occupation: lab Groom's age: 20 Groom's father's forename: John Groom's father's surname: Groom's father's occupation: lab Bride forename: Ellen Elizth Bride surname: ROBINSON Bride's residence: of St Peters Cambridge Bride's condition: sp Bride's occupation: [blank] Bride's age: of full age Bride's father's forename: Charles Bride's father's surname: Bride's father's occupation: butcher By Licence: by banns Place: Madingley County: Cambridgeshire,England Witness 1 forename: Marian Witness 1 surname: ROBINSON Witness 2 forename: Charles Witness 2 surname: ROBINSON
(have since found above)
Just wondering Robert if you are connected to Wiliam Hopkins that went to Canada 1922?, have found some things here, not sure what you have, or need!)
Chris :)
edits (1832 Marriage posted by root g above, correct, witnesses, Charles Coulson, Elizabeth Freeman)
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12 Oct 2011 15:27 |
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Hello Chris;
Yes, William Hopkins is my maternal granfather. I do have some info, including the ship he came over to Canada with his wife Hannah and daughters Phyllis and Iris; Iris is actually a step daughter but she was my favourite Aunt. I am trying to find William's army history buit have to find his regimental number.
Thank you so very much for your help and information. Please if I can do any lookups for you for Canada just ask.
Regards;
Robert ;-) :-) :-D
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12 Oct 2011 16:23 |
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aah, yes, I noticed on Baptism of Phyllis, it says Soldier (will send to you, along with other Hopkins, if you like) saw them going out, and a Canada Arrival Card.
Will look around for William, haven't come across his Marriage (in case it gave Regiment, an outside chance I know, lol)
Chris :)
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14 Oct 2011 13:44 |
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Hi Chris; William married Hannah May Garner about 1919 as per Cambridge district vol 3b, page 481; also noted on Camdex 331/RO/CAM/125/64/1 1919; I have not actually looked it up yet, but hope to soon. She had married Ernest Brooks first about 1916 but he was killed in action in France. Iris was the daughter of Ernest and Hannah, while the rest of the children from Phyllis onward were from William and Hannah. Iris and Phyllis were born in England, the family then emmigrated to Canada, entering Canada at Quebec then took the train to Picton, settling in Wapoos, where my mother was born. I am trying to get the regimental number for William, but difficult to obtain. He had enrolled in the Leicestershire 2nd battalion, and served in the Royal Engineers as well as the Signal Corp.. I would really enjoy seeing what you have on William Hopkins. Even though he was my grandfather, I never really knew him very well. . I was only about 10 when he passed away.
Regards,
Robert :-) :-) :-D :-)
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14 Oct 2011 14:57 |
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Ok Robert, will pm some things through...
British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about William Hopkins Name: William Hopkins Regiment or Corps: Leicestershire Regiment, Leicestershire Regiment, Royal Engineers Regimental Number: 8803, 65164, 624907
(not sure if this fits, for starters from Ancestry, although numbers bringing nothing up on Service Records there, or by Birth County)
Chris :)
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