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Thomas
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12 Oct 2011 19:38 |
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Hi All,
Thank you all for your quick responses and all the information which backs up our already compiled. We went to Thornham the other week and found no sign our Tann family having lived in the village, however William would have been 15-19 years old in 1841 so could have been working away from home this would answer the entry on that census. It looks like Thomas could be the father of William on the marriage certificate; though we are not that sure. The second son of William and Elizabeth is called Thomas also a good clue.
Any further leads or ideas will be more than welcome, it is at times like this it would be nice to phone them up and ask the question, on the other hand tracing ancestors would not be interesting, exasperating or very satisfying.
Thanking you all again and kind regards
Thomas
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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11 Oct 2011 22:04 |
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Maybe not the above--found this on IGI
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results William Tann Event(s): Birth: 14 MAR 1820 Christening: 30 APR 1820 Thornham, Norfolk, England Death: 1855 Burial: Parents: Father: Thomas Tann Family Mother: Mary Sacker or Sucker
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: Unavailable
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Film Number: 457527
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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11 Oct 2011 21:53 |
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Wondered about this 1841 census ? Same place as he said he was born on 1851 census--
1841 England Census 1841 England Census Name: William Tann Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil parish: Thornham
Hundred: Smithdon County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Docking Sub-registration district: Burnham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 782 Book: 17 Folio: 5 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Tann 55 ---ag lab Mary Tann 55 Sarah Tann 20 William Tann 20 --ag lab Jane Tann 15 Angelina Tann 1
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 782; Book: 17; Civil Parish: Thornham; County: Norfolk; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 5; Page: 4; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438865.
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 21:48 |
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Don't be sorry Barbara, as they say:- "Many hands make light work"
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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11 Oct 2011 21:37 |
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Sorry Catherine,
I can't find the marriage in the West Yorkshire look ups though (Ancestry), Although the childrens births are on there. !!!
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 21:27 |
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Oh, Barbara you pipped me to the post. Well done. We just need a sign from Thomas now to see if we are on the right road.
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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11 Oct 2011 21:13 |
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Marriage ?
Marriages Jun 1848 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gaudin William Knaresboro 23 311 Lowther Sarah Knaresboro 23 311 SMITH Samuel Knaresbro 23 311 STAMP Jane Knaresbro 23 311 SUTHERIN Ann Knaresbro 23 311 >>>>>>>Tan William Knaresbro' 23 311 WILKINSON Miles Knaresbro' 23 311 >>>>>>>WILKS Elizabeth Knaresbro' 23 311
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 21:10 |
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Deaths Dec 1863 (>99%) TANN WILLIAM Knaresborough 9a 886
Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%) BROGAN Mary Knaresbro' 9a 113 xxxxxx Brown John Knaresbro' 9a 113 Sharpe George Knaresbro' 9a 113 xxxxxx TANN Elizabeth Knaresbro' 9a 113
1871 Name: Elizabeth Brown Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Brown Gender: Female Where born: Harrogate, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Bilton With Harrogate Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Harrogate County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Knaresborough Sub-registration district: Harrogate ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household schedule number: 40 Piece: 4291 Folio: 42 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Brown 36 Elizabeth Brown 40 James Tann 18 John Tann 13 Joseph Tann 9
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 20:52 |
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If there are two possible William Tanns in 1841, then you can rule out this one with parents John and Ann:-
1851 Name: William Tann Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Tann Mother's Name: Ann Tann Gender: M (Male) Where born: Beeston, Norfolk, England Civil parish: East Tuddenham County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Mitford Sub-registration district: Shipdham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Piece: 1824 Folio: 249 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Tann 75 Ann Tann 72 William Tann 27 Catherine Crow 27 Robert Balls 17 George Dunton 14
.........as William and Elizabeth were together in 1851.
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 20:43 |
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Other submitted entries:-
Thomas - International Genealogical Index Gender: Birth: 13 OCT 1855 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Death: 25 FEB 1929
Joseph - International Genealogical Index Gender: Birth: 1862 Harrogate, Yorkshire, England Death: 20 JAN 1934 JAMES WILLIAM TANN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 27 JUN 1852 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
JOHN WILKS TANN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 06 FEB 1858 Harrogate, Yorkshire, England
William TANN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1853 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England .....all give mother's maiden name as Wilks.
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 20:37 |
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submitted entry for Fanny:-
Fanny TANN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1861 Harrogate, Yorkshire, England Father: William TANN Mother: Elizabeth Wilks
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 20:36 |
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John Tann, born 1857, has middle name Wicks! Could be this is his mother's maiden name?
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MarieCeleste
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11 Oct 2011 20:29 |
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There are 2 possible William Tanns on the 1841. I'd strongly recommend that getting one of his children's birth certificates for mother's maiden name and then working back to the marriage is the only way to be sure of tracing the right person.
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 20:27 |
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Births Jun 1859 (>99%) TANN Fanny Knaresborough 9a 111
............the birth cert. of one of their children will give you mother's maiden name. This will help find, or confirm a marriage.
siblings of Fanny? Births Sep 1850 (>99%) Tann George Knaresboro' 23 440 Births Mar 1857 (>99%) Tann John Wicks Knaresbro' 9a 104
sadly:- Deaths Dec 1850 (>99%) TANN George Knaresbro' 23 275
and also:- Deaths Mar 1865 (>99%) TANN Fanny Knaresborough 9a 86
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MarieCeleste
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11 Oct 2011 20:26 |
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Given they were already married in 1851 I wonder if this could be the marriage?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1847 BREAM Jonathan Norwich 13 369 FRIAR Amelia Norwich 13 369 Gibbs Maria Norwich 13 369 MARSHALL Abraham Brewster Norwich 13 369 ROUT Michael Norwich 13 369 ??TANN William Westgate Norwich 13 369 ??Whitehead Elizabeth Norwich 13 369 Willis Charlotte Norwich 13 369
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MarieCeleste
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11 Oct 2011 20:23 |
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If it's the right couple, the 1851 gives more detail on birthplace:
TANN, William Married M 26 1825 Labourer Thornham Norfolk TANN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 22 1829 Harrogate Yorkshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Knaresborough
Address: Smithy Hill, Harrogate County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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AnnCardiff
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11 Oct 2011 20:23 |
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William Tann Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 1826 Buckingham, , Norfolk, England
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AnnCardiff
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11 Oct 2011 20:19 |
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name: William Tann event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 35 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Norfolk record type: Household registration district: Knaresborough sub-district: 2 Harrogate ecclesiastical parish: High Harrogate civil parish: Bilton With Harrogate county: Yorkshire (West Riding
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Catherine
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11 Oct 2011 20:18 |
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Born Norfolk, living Yorkshire:- ..........if this him in 1861?
Name: William Tann Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Tann Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil parish: Bilton With Harrogate Ecclesiastical parish: High Harrogate Town: Harrogate County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Labourer Farm Registration district: Knaresborough Sub-registration district: Harrogate ED, institution, or vessel: 15c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 54 Piece: 3207 Folio: 78 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age William Tann 35 Elizabeth Tann 31 born: Harrogate, Yorkshire William Tann 8 Thomas Tann 6 John Tann 4 Fanny Tann 1
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MarieCeleste
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11 Oct 2011 20:17 |
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Is this the family in 1861?
TANN, William Head Married M 35 1826 Labourer Farm Norfolk TANN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1830 Harrogate Yorkshire TANN, William Son Unmarried M 8 1853 Agricultural Labourer Servant Wakefield Yorkshire TANN, Thomas Son M 6 1855 Wakefield Yorkshire TANN, John Son M 4 1857 Harrogate Yorkshire TANN, Fanny Daughter F 1 1860 Harrogate Yorkshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Knaresborough Civil Parish: Bilton with Harrogate
Address: Harrogate Hill, Bilton With Harrogate, Harrogate County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
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