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Hi,

Wondered if anyone can find any additional information about her or family.
Have, just received her marriage certificate from the 21.05.1919 at the Dartford Register Office. She married Ernest William Bumpsteed aged 34.

Caroline was a spinster aged 23, living in Welling. Her father was John James Botting (deceased), occupation scaffolder. One of the witnesses was a James Botting.

That is all is know about her, found a Caroline Botting in 1901 born in Lambeth abt 1896, but she is part of her brother's household. Wondered if anyone can point to any additional information such as death or parents in the census.

Thanks
Mark

1901 England Census about Caroline Botting
Name: Caroline Botting
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Piece: 475
Folio: 156
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
William R Botting 28 Where born: Balham, London, England, bricklayer's labourer
Eliza Botting 23, Clapham
Elizabeth Botting 2
Annie L Botting 4 Months
Agnes Botting 20
Caroline Botting 5

William in 1891? different occupation though.

1891 England Census about William Botting
Name: William Botting
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Botting
Mother's Name: Rose Botting
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 1 New Park Road cottages Paddy's Lane

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 411
Folio: 43
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James Botting 38, general labourer, Lambeth, London, England
Rose Botting 30, laundress, Lambeth, London, England
William Botting 15, groom ostler
Elizabeth Botting 13
Eliza Botting 11
Anne Botting 7
Charles Botting 5
Alice Botting 3
Elling Botting 1

Possible death.

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: BUMPSTEAD, Caroline
Registration District: Greenwich
County: London
Year of Registration: 1960
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 64
Volume No: 5C
Page No: 486

Caroline Botting
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1895
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 481

??

1911

BOTTING, R Head Widow F 48 1863 Ironer Laundry Wolverhampton Stapheshire VIEW
BOTTING, G Son M 19 1892 Fitters Mate Brixton London VIEW
>>>>BOTTING, Carrie Dater F 15 1896 Servant Domestic Brixton London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2102 Reference:
RG14PN2102 RG78PN73 RD25 SD5 ED3 SN432

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Norwood Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Lambeth

Address:
44 Bartley St Brixton Hill London S W County:
London

1901

WHITTLE, Herbert E Head Married M 29 1872 Painter
Brixton
London VIEW
WHITTLE, Emma M Wife Married F 25 1876
Greenhithe
Kent VIEW
WHITTLE, Herbert E Son M 1 1900
Greenhithe
Kent VIEW
WHITTLE, John E Son M 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Brixton
London VIEW
>>>>BOTTING, Rosina Boarder Widow F 41 1860 Shirt Ironer
Wolverhampton
Staffordshire VIEW
>>>>BOTTING, James Boarder M 8 1893
Brixton
London VIEW

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Piece:
427 Folio:
65 Page:
15 Registration District:
Lambeth

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
23, Kildoran Road, Lambeth County:
London

her death index
Name: Caroline Bumpstead
Birth Date: abt 1896
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1960
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 486

Hi,

Thank you everyone for your help. Looks like you have solved this for me

Regards
Mark

2 children of Caroline and Ernest:

Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: BUMPSTEAD, Ernest D
Registration District: Woolwich
County: London
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Botting
Volume No: 1D
Page No: 3139

Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: BUMPSTEED, Joan A M
Registration District: Woolwich
County: London
Year of Registration: 1922
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Botting
Volume No: 1D
Page No: 2188

Caroline Botting
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1895
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 481

This looks like her brother's marriage but father is given as James Edward Botting, a labourer??

William Richard Botting
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Spouse Name: Eliza Walkling
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 05 Sep 1897
Parish: All Saints, Clapham Park
County: London
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: James Eward Botting
Spouse Father Name: Henry Walkling

possibly

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
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>>>Botting James Wandsworth 1d 725
Curry Nora Wandsworth 1d 725
>>>HILTON Rosina Wandsworth 1d 725
ROCKETT Michael Wandsworth 1d 725

This appears to be the William in the 1901 census. His father is different to Caroline's so that cannot be the right family.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Richard Botting
Name: William Richard Botting, labourer of 8 Mill Lane.
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Spouse Name: Eliza Walkling
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 05 Sep 1897
Parish: All Saints, Clapham Park
County: London
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: James Eward Botting, labourer
Spouse Father Name: Henry Walkling

EDIT Sorry Kim, just saw your post. :-)

This looks to be them in 1881 but total confusionas to where they were born and it appears Rose may have been his second wife

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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BOTTING, James Head Married M 27 1854 Labourer
Worth
Sussex VIEW
BOTTING, Annie Wife Married F 23 1858
Balham
Surrey VIEW
BOTTING, William Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Balham
Surrey VIEW
BOTTING, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 3 1878 Infant
Balham
Surrey VIEW
BOTTING, Eliza Daughter Single F 0 1881 Infant
Balham
Surrey VIEW
LANE, Robert Lodger Single M 23 1858 Farrier
Barrington
Somerset VIEW

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Piece:
665 Folio:
34 Page:
7 Registration District:
Wandsworth

Civil Parish:
Streatham Municipal Borough:
Address:
21, Balham New Road, Streatham County:
London, Surrey

Yes - looks like Choccy has the second marriage! :-D

James and his ma in 1871:

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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BOTTING, Ann F 60 1811 Sussex VIEW
BOTTING, James Son M 17 1854 Sussex VIEW

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Piece:
1059 Folio:
66 Page:
10 Registration District:
East Grinstead

Civil Parish:
Worth Municipal Borough:
Address:
Whitely Hill Forest Cottages, Worth County:
Sussex

1st marriage ?


Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%)
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>>>>>BOTTING James Wandsworth 1d 763
>>>>>FILER Annie Wandsworth 1d 763
Murrell Lucy Wandsworth 1d 763
WITHAM Charles Thomas Wandsworth 1d 763

??? first marriage

Name: BOTTING, James
Registration District: Wandsworth
County: London
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1D
Page No: Help 763
MarriageFinder™: James Botting married one of the following people Help FILER, Annie view record
MURRELL, Lucy view record



WITHAM, Charles Thoma

Hi

Again, thanks for the information and there is lot to digest!

Regards
Mark