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Elizabeth Cottrill nee Catchpole born 1840

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Caroline

Caroline Report 17 Oct 2011 08:18

Does anyone have info on Elizabeth -where buried? I know died Crundwell Street London in abject poverty.Former founder member of Salvation Army Womens Refuge-Whitechapel "Sent to Glory" by the Salvation Army 1920/30.
Her husband was Thomas Cottrill son of Job Cottrill and Dinah Race.
Any info appreciated.

CAZ

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Oct 2011 08:46

Hi Caz.

If you are only looking for her burial, better to put 'burial lookup please' as heading rather than her name, and put her name in the text. Some people have NBI info so it will catch their eye. Forget the maiden name, it just complicates things. Put the year she died if you know it.
If you are after other info. you need to specify what!

Jan

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2011 09:58

Could that be Crondall Street?...

(above Elizabeth Gosling Burial on below link)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abneypark/abneyy.html

Chris :)

Caroline

Caroline Report 19 Oct 2011 14:59

Yes Chris it was Crondall street I believe Shoreditch area London

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 Oct 2011 15:56

Hi Caroline. Got your PM and here you are! I do not have any info about Elizabeth. You have not responded to the link provided above re. her burial.

PM:

'The above was related to me on my paternal gt grandfathers side died in 1927 Shoreditch London. Do you have any info?'

jan

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Oct 2011 18:58

(PM received too!, have advised Caroline to look at Abney Park link, and below too, for grave of William Booth)

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/parks/18.html

Chris :)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2011 22:12

Caroline, PLEASE put replies onto here rather than sending messages.

Recieved by PM:

Have now marriage cert showing her a widow marrying Henry Gosling widower in 1896 bethnal green.Cannot trace after then.
Regards Carol

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Oct 2011 03:53

Caroline


PLEASE remove the Mark as Answered that you have put on brummiejan's post above.


It makes your thread show as question answered


and the question has NOT been answered.


But people will ignore the thread now


(I only looked on here because of the name Cottrill, which has some interest for me ......... but no connection with your Elizabeth or her husband).





sylvia

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Aug 2012 08:06

Elizabeth Catchpole married Thomas Cottrill became a Salvation Army Founder
Member of the Whitechapel Refuge in London.
Known as The Saint of Crondall Street.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 10 Aug 2012 08:13

But isn't her name now Gosling (see one of my posts above).
Caroline, you need to say if you have followed the advice re.that link. And you haven't removed the 'marked as answered'x on the other posting.
It's important to answer queries and respond to suggestions - we want to help after all!
Jan

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Aug 2012 08:56

So sorry not quite sure how the system works.Did find her marriage cert thankyou for that info but still cannot locate her burial place. All salvationist historical write ups refer to her as Elizabeth Cottrill- even the article Sent toGlory commemorating her
life and works. Still stuck on this one.Believe she died in 1927 Crondall street London and had reverted to the name Cottrill..
Carol

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 10 Aug 2012 08:59

But have you followed the link given by Chris? Just click on it to go there.
EDIT having tried it myself, I confess I don't understand how it works!!
Jan

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Aug 2012 20:00

and please, please, remove that tick on brummiejan's post of 19 Oct 2011 15:56



As I said before, it shows on the Record Page as being answered, and you needing no further help.


Which is not true!







sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Aug 2012 20:28

on that site given by Chris


Click on Surname Search in left panel (scroll down to find it

Follow the instructions to ........

Click on G in the alphabetical list along the bottom of the site


Click on from Glading to Gretton in list down left side


scroll down to find Golding


Then it gets tricky!!


close that page down and go back to the first page



and you SHOULD find a table with names of all people named Gosling buried in Abney Park


and you will find this


Gosling, Elizabeth 10nov1902 59y 105333 N05 5S02
Gosling, Elizabeth 03dec1918 70y 131169 F03 6S12
Gosling, Elizabeth 29mar1927 87y 146037 D04 7S12
Gosling, Elizabeth Sophia 08may1921 75y 135774 O06 7S04


The explanation of the table is ............

Each line in the table will contain the following six fields:-

1. The Surname and either the Forenames or Initials.


2. The Date of the Burial.


3. The Age of the person.
(If known)


4. The letter followng the two numerics indicate the following:-

"y" = Years


5. A burial reference number.

This is the number in the burial register for numbers from 1 to 113828. For numbers above 113828 (113829 through 195217) they are the burials numbers in the registers marked as R/N 3829 to R/N 85217. (That is R/N nn = 110000 + nn) So to convert add 110000 inplace of R/N or subtract 110000 and write R/N in front of the number. (This may be just R in some of out listings)
The section in the Cemetery where the grave is located.
Identification of the source register index in which this entry is found.


6. The section in the Cemetery where the grave is located.


7. Identification of the source register index in which this entry is found.






sylvia

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Aug 2012 20:34

Lol, thankyou Sylvia, will delete mine, was trying to think how to explain it!.

Chris :)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Aug 2012 21:06

Chris

it certainly took some figuring out!!


Not the easiest site to navigate ....... I've never before ahd to go BACK to find a previous page to find the result of my search!! :-D



sylvia
x

Caroline

Caroline Report 11 Aug 2012 08:20

Many thanks have now got the info on the site Abney Park and will follow through
What is Cabin in the wilderness about?
Carol

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Aug 2012 22:28

explanation of my avatar :-D

Caroline

Caroline Report 12 Aug 2012 08:50

Elizabeth Catchpole married a Cottrill became a widow then re-married a Gosling at an old age. Died in Crondall street 1927 death cert verified by son Albert Cottrill. Buried in AbneyPark Cemetery.Known by the Salvation Army Corps as The Saint of Crondall Street Shoreditch and all information and cutting refer to her as Mrs Cottrill.She was highly respected by her peers including Bramwell Booth and wife.
Many Cottrills lived in the Hackney area of London where Citadel was erected also Hospital for unmarried mothers and offices for rehabilitating ex prisoners in Downs Road Hackney. Am am related she was my gt gt Aunt.
Carol

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Aug 2012 19:18

why on earth has brummiejan's post been RR'd???????