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Bronnie

Bronnie Report 25 Dec 2011 04:20

Sarah Dawson nee Farrafell born 1809. Narorough Leicestershire, England, married Joseph Dawson , Have no information about her family and would appreciate any information.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Dec 2011 06:51

Hi,

May I ask where you got her maiden name from please? I can't see the surname at all.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Dec 2011 06:53

I see this;

Name: Sarah Coates
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Feb 1809
Baptism/Christening Place: INDEPENDENT,NARBOROUGH,LEICESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 30 Jan 1809
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Coates
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07927-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 916575
Reference Number:



Groom's Name: Joseph Dawson
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Sarah Coats
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 03 Apr 1831
Marriage Place: St. Margaret, Leicester, Leicester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05807-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1656181
Reference Number: 129

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 25 Dec 2011 07:20

Is this Thomas, Sarah and Josephs eldest son with his own family?? If so his son John has a very interesting middle name!!!

1861 England Census
about John Coaks Danson Name: John Coaks Danson
[John Coates Dawson]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Danson
Mother's name: Harriett Danson
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Leicester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Piece: 2290
Folio: 65
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Danson 29
Harriett Danson 30
Alice Danson 11
John Coaks Danson 1
Jane Dawson 7
Thomas Henry Dawson 2 MO


His birth reg;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
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DAWSON John Coates Leicester 7a 194
DAWSON John Coats Leicester 7a 19_

So, this may imply that the name Coates was a family name??? Often maiden names were put into names to keep the name going!!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Dec 2011 11:08

can find no one with the surname Farrafell anywhere in the world

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Dec 2011 11:11

name: Sarah Dawson
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 52
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Narborough, Leicestershire
record type: Household
registration district: Barrow-Upon-Soar
sub-district: 3 Rothley
civil parish: Belgrave
county: Leicestershire

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 25 Dec 2011 19:17

There is a tree on mundia.com with a Sarah Farrafell married William Dawson

no information on Sarah

dates for William 1853-1917

so not exactly who you are looking for

but maybe you could contact the tree owner to see if they have anyother info

Bronnie

Bronnie Report 26 Dec 2011 03:19

Thank You BatMans Daughter, Lesley and Ann, Thank you for all your replies and sorry I have taken so long to get back. SARAH FARRAFELL is listed as Mother to William Dawson, who married Julia Ann Buck on 19 February 1886 in Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia.
On the Transcript which I obtained re Dawson and Buck , is the only evidence I have of FARRAFELL.
I will try through Mundia.com and try to contact the tree owner which mentions Sarah. Once again, thank you. Happy New Year. Bronnie
:-)

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 06:34

Are you sure your tracing the correct line??

I see a tree on Ancestry, which I presume is yours, and there is no William born C.1853 to Sarah from Narborough;

1861 England Census
about Sarah Dawson Name: Sarah Dawson
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Dawson
Gender: Female
Where born: Narborough, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Belgrave
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar
Sub-registration district: Rothley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Piece: 2281
Folio: 106
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dawson 51
Sarah Dawson 52
Ann Dawson 16
Frederick Dawson 12
Henry Harris 48


Could this family be more likely?

1861 England Census
about William Dawson Name: William Dawson
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Dawson
Mother's name: Sarah Dawson
Gender: Male
Where born: Wymeswold, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Wymeswold
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Loughborough
Sub-registration district: Leake
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 2277
Folio: 22
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dawson 45
Sarah Dawson 40
Mary Dawson 22
John Dawson 20
Joseph Dawson 14
Harriet Dawson 12
Martha Dawson 10
William Dawson 8
Henry Dawson 4
Samuel Dawson 1


Dee x

Bronnie

Bronnie Report 26 Dec 2011 10:12

Dee, Thank you for that info. I was thinking the same. I looked at the 1861 Census as well.
I am thinking now that I should get an actual copy of the Marriage Certificate (I only got a Transcript before) and I am now thinking is could have been transcribed wrongly. The SARAH FARRAFELL could have been FARROWFIELD????

i will advise when I get the original. Regards, Bronnie x :-)

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 11:18

Hi Bronnie,

That maybe the best option, it may also state Josephs occupation would would be an extra lead.

There are a few more possibilties with Joseph and Sarah as parents..... I'll look into them.

But the William from Wymeswold doesn't seem to appear in the UK after the 1871 census, do you know whne he came to Oz?

Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 11:40

Just a theory;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>Dawson Joseph Howden 9d 182
>>>>>>>>Fallowfield Sarah Howden 9d 182
Farmery Mary Howden 9d 182
Hicks Henry Howden 9d 182

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 12:53

Looking at the Fallowfields, this Herbert came to Oz in 1863;

1841 England Census
about Herbert Fallowfield Name: Herbert Fallowfield
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: North Cave
Hundred: Harthill (Hunsley Beacon Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Howden
Sub-registration district: Newport
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1217
Book: 5
Folio: 10
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
William Fallowfield 40
Sarah Fallowfield 40
Ann Fallowfield 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sarah Fallowfield 9
Mary Fallowfield 7
Harriett Fallowfield 4
Herbert Fallowfield 1


Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Herbert Fallowfield Name: Herbert Fallowfield
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Age: 25
Arrival Date: 9 Sep 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: White Star
Nationality: English


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Herbert Fallowfield Name: Herbert Fallowfield
Death Date: 1878
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: William
Mother's name: Sarah
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Place: Manning River, New South Wales
Registration Number: 7119

Possibly his marriage??

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Hubert Fallowfield Name: Hubert Fallowfield
Spouse Name: Margaret Mc Donald
Marriage Date: 1866
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Manning River, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Number: 2241

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 13:12

This immigration record has Sarah aged 28, Mary aged 8 and William aged 5 travelling with him;

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
about Joseph Dawson Name: Joseph Dawson
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Arrival Date: 1 Apr 1859
Vessel Name: Wellington

Joseph is from Lincolnshire whilst the others are from Yorkshire.

Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 13:21

This record gives more info;

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
about Joseph Dawson Name: Joseph Dawson
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 30
Arrival Date: 1 Apr 1859
Vessel Name: Wellington
Origin Location: Torry Biro, Fyfeshire

It states Joseph is an Ag lab from Fullerby Lincolnshire and his parents were Richard and Mary it also states that they are dead for their address.
It states for Sarah that she is from North Cave and her parents were William and Sarah of North Cave.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 13:24

Maybe Joseph??

1851 England Census
about Joseph Dawson Name: Joseph Dawson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Belchford, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Marfleet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Sutton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 2360
Folio: 595
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
George Gibson 62
Hannah Gibson 54
Ann Gibson 18
David Gibson 7
Edward Foster 2
Joseph Dawson 22 >> farm Labourer


Name: Joseph Dawson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Feb 1826
Baptism/Christening Place: BELCHFORD,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Richard Dawson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02697-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 421915
Reference Number:

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 16:59

There is a site called "Lincs to the past"

On it I have found a marriage of Richard Dawson to Martha Wilson in Fulletby in 1822 Witnesses are Jane Wilson and James Daubney.

This is from The IGI;

Groom's Name: Richard Dawson
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Martha Wilson
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 19 Feb 1822
Marriage Place: Fulletby,Lincoln,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02845-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 436031
Reference Number:


It seems that there is a tree on Ancestry with Sarah Fallowfield and Jopseph Dawson.. they have a son in 1872 and his name is Joseph WILSON FALLOWFIELD Dawson!!!!!!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Dec 2011 16:59

Belchford and Fulletby seem to be within a stones trow of eachother.

Bronnie

Bronnie Report 26 Dec 2011 21:55

Thank You everyone, These replies have been so wonderful. It will take me a while to check them all out but I can't thank you enough.

I will let you know what I eventually find out.

Cheers, Bronnie :-D

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 30 Dec 2011 15:14

Hi Bronnie - just curious - do you have Wm's death and his wife Julia Ann's remarriage (the 1935 death in Mosman is not the right Julia!)

:-)