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Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 23 Feb 2012 10:43

Birth of Albert Edward Orme - Son of Thomas & Louisa nee Flowers:

Name: Albert Edward Orme
Date of Birth: 26 Sep 1870
Gender: Male
Birth County or District: Haldimand
Father's Name: Thomas G Orme
Mother's name: Louisa E Flowers

Birth of Minnie Bell Orme - daughter of Thomas and Louisa nee Flowers:

Name: Minnie Bell Orme
Date of Birth: 29 May 1876
Gender: Female
Birth County or District: Haldimand
Father's Name: Thomas Orme
Mother's name: Louisa Flowers

Birth of Emma Louise Orme - daughter ot Thomas and Louisa nee Flowers:

Name: Emma Louisa Orme
Date of Birth: 18 Feb 1878
Gender: Female
Birth County or District: Haldimand
Father's Name: Thomas Graham Orme
Mother's name: Louisa Eleonor Flowers



mgnv

mgnv Report 21 Feb 2012 16:58

Although the page of census links I gave earlier does not list AG for 1852, it is gettable via the 1901 AG link.
You'll get a hit headed by something like (exactly like, here):

Home / 1852 / Canada West / Haldimand (county) / 110 Moulton township / p. 3d, 4a, (7) Split view

Now you can click the "split view" link and get an image for the main page (4a), but it's actually followed 3 more pages (4b/c, 4d(/5a) two images).
Usually, they're not too interesting, but...? So to get these look up the header stuff in the LAC geographical link (i.e., district=Haldimand + subdistrict#=110) That way, you can get to the extra pages.
(NB doing the same LAC thing in 1901 gets hits for Sched 1 & Sched 2 - you need to look up Sched 1 first, to get the page & line #s to look up in Sched 2)



1861 is too geeky to explain easily, so I've just given the Stevens hits. This census also has an extra following page which can be gotten by just editting the URLs I give (e.g., changing the final 00301.pdf to 00302.pdf in the first one, etc.).

1861 in Haldimand
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108073_00301.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108073_00327.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108073_00333.pdf

You can use the LAC links to search 1871, 1881, 1891 (for Stevens in Monck) - e.g.:
1871 in Monck
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00313.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00307.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00197.pdf



The Dominion of Canada was only formed in 1867. Before that, there was a united province of Canada - Ontario/Quebec were then known as Upper/Lower Canada or else as Canada West/East depending on year.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 20 Feb 2012 23:05

Birth of son Allen:

Name: Allen Stevens
Date of Birth: 9 Jan 1870
Gender: Male
Birth County or District: Haldimand
Father's Name: Albert Stevens - Millage Albert Stevens
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jamieson - born in Ireland

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 20 Feb 2012 22:53

Bingo, a little closer to finding Millage's first wife:

Birth of daughter Medelia Stevens:

Name: Medelia Stevens
Date of Birth: 30 Mar 1872
Gender: Female
Birth County or District: Haldimand
Father's Name: Millage A Stevens
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jemison


Second marriage of Millage:
9455-75 Millage Albert STEVENS, 35, widower, harness maker, USA, Dunnville, s/o Robert & Ann, married Mary NOBLE, 32, Ireland, Dunnville, d/o Andrew & Mary, witn: James McLAUGHLIN & A. McCLELLAND, both of Welland, 25 Oct. 1875 at Welland (also 11387-76)

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 20 Feb 2012 22:23

Found Milage A Stevens with his first wife Elizabeth during the 1871 Canadian Census:

Name: Milage A Stevens
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1840
Birth Place: Ontario
Marital Status: Married
Religion: Weslyan Methodist
Origin: English
Province: Ontario
District: Monck
District Number: 18
Division: 01
Subdistrict: Dunnville
Subdistrict Number: b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Milage A Stevens 31
Elizabeth Stevens 27
Arthur Stevens 7 - this is Albert Arthur Stevens, he married Mary C Orme
Edward Stevens 6
Walter Stevens 3
Allen Stevens 1
Margt Clow 18
John Swingle

Source Citation: Year: 1871; Census Place: Dunnville, Monck, Ontario; Roll: C-9918; Page: 35; Family No: 139.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 20 Feb 2012 22:19

Evening,

Sorry for delay, been at work all day and just had time to look at the Canadian Census, I know it dosen't answer your puzzle, however I have managed to find Millage Albert Stevens on the 1851 Canadian Census with his parents Robert born United States and Ann born England along with 6 siblings, two born in the States all the rest born in Canada. Millage's name is shown as Milledge A Stevens.

Name: Robert Stevens
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Birthplace: United States
Province: Canada West (Ontario)
District: Haldimand County
District Number: 13
Sub-District: Moulton
Sub-District Number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stevens 40


MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 20 Feb 2012 15:25

mgnv

OMG! havent you been busy!

Thankyou so much

I was going to take today off from research and gather my brain cells as i'm starting night work tonight but after all your hard work and info it looks like i'll be in in numpty mode tonight lol It's a good job i can delegate lol

Many thanks again mgnv :-D

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Feb 2012 11:07

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 45 Dunnville / page 1
1 1 Orme T G M Head M May 1874 37
2 1 Orme Flavia M F Wife Dec 1880 31
3 1 Orme Helen M. F Daughter S Apr 1905 6
4 1 Cowell Emma F Boarder S May 1902 19?
5 1 Roberts Gertrude F Boarder S Mar 1901 18?
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43 13 Orme John W. M Head M Mar 1866 45
44 13 Orme Bella F Wife M Sep 1867 43
45 13 Orme Thos. G M Son S Apr 1893 18
46 13 Orme Marin M F Daughter S Aug 1898 12
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989892.pdf

Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 45 Dunnville / page 8
20 101 Coverdale John C M Head M Jul 1874 37
21 101 Coverdale Louise E? F Wife M Feb 1877 34
22 101 Coverdale Minie E? F Daughter S Jun 1898 13
23 101 Coverdale Thelma M F Daughter S Oct 1900 11
24 101 Coverdale William O M Son S Feb 1903 8
25 101 Coverdale Muriel M F Daughter S Oct 1906 5
26 101 Law Frances F Domestic S Nov 1893 18
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989899.pdf


Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 44 Dunnville / page 4
42 47 Oreme Louise F Head W Mar 1837 74
43 47 Stevens Lina M Grandson S Sep 1895 15
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989879.pdf
[d.o.immig=1842]

Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 44 Dunnville / page 7
34 87 Orme George M Head M Aug 1873 37
35 87 Orme Mary J. F Wife M Jan 1873 38
36 87 Orme George Edwin M Son S Apr 1902 8
37 87 Orme Frank W. M Son S Jan 1906 5
38 87 Orme Gordon R. M Son S Jan 1908 3
39 87 Newthy? Charlotte F Domestic S Dec 1884 17
40 87 Boughoner Elizabeth F Lodger W Jun 1828 83
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989882.pdf

Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 44 Dunnville / page 10
18 122 McCutcheon Thomas M Head M Jun 1875 35
19 122 McCutcheon Minnie F Wife M May 1876 35
20 122 McCutcheon Thomas M Son S Nov 1904 7
21 122 Briwack Millie F Domestic S Dec 1892 19
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989885.pdf


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Kent East / 44 Ridgetown / page 2
29 25 Brien George M Head M Dec 1862 48 1901 Links
30 25 Brien Nellie F Wife M Jun 1860 50 1901 Links
31 25 Brien Nellie F Daughter S Aug 1893 19 1901 Links
32 25 Brien Gertrude F Daughter S May 1897 13 1901 Links
33 25 Brien Georgana F Daughter S Sep 1902 9 1901
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001995556.pdf

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Feb 2012 11:06

You can search censuses using links at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html#il

Actually, Ancestry has a better search facility, so it's often worth looking there first, even if you don't have full access (I don't).

1871
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00329.pdf

1881
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008188219.pdf

1891
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148156-00239.pdf
Maria http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148136-00334.pdf
Maria http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148136-00335.pdf




1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON HALDIMAND & MONCK (#67)
Subdistrict: Dunnville (Village) G-3 Page 6
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6470
41 72 Orme Louisa F Head W Mar 5 1834 66
42 72 Orme George M Son S Aug 8 1872 28
43 72 Orme Minnie F Daughter S May 29 1876 24
44 72 Stevens Arthur M Grandson S Sep 6 1895 5
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066227.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066219.pdf

Subdistrict: Dunnville (Village) G-3 Page 7
25 80 Orme Thomas M Head M May 24 1873 27
26 80 Orme Flavia F Wife M Oct 8 1880 20
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066228.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066219.pdf [Sched2 same as above]

Subdistrict: Dunnville (Village) G-1 Page 7
8 67 Orme John M Head M Apr 10 1866 34
9 67 Orme Bella F Wife M Sep 27 1867 33
10 67 Orme Thos M Son S Apr 15 1893 7
11 67 Orme Marrian F Daughter S Aug 20 1897 3
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066189.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066180.pdf

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON HAMILTON (City/Cité) (#69)
Subdistrict: Ward/Quartier No. 3 C-10 Page 14
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6471
36 143 Coverdale Charles J M Head M Jul 30 1873 27
37 143 Coverdale Lueise F Wife M Feb 18 1878 23
38 143 Coverdale Minnie F Daughter S Jun 1898 2
39 143 Coverdale Thelma F Daughter S Oct 10 1899 1
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000067847.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000067832.pdf
[I can't read addy]

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON ELGIN (West/Ouest) (#58)
Subdistrict: Ridgetown (Town/Ville) F-1 Page 1
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6465
1 1 Brien George R. M Head M Nov 14 1863 38
2 1 Brien Julia E. F Wife M Jun 14 1860 40
3 1 Brien Nellie F Daughter S Sep 21 1891 9
4 1 Brien Gertrude F Daughter S May 26 1899 2
5 1 Stevens Gerald M Adopted/son S May 26 1886 14
6 1 Campbell Katie F Domestic S Aug 9 1880 20
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000059749.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000059746.pdf

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Feb 2012 11:03

Gerri - you really must make the most of Monday - the last day of free Ancestry Ontario BMDs

Here's some you should check out (with images):


Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913 about Emma Louisa Orme
Name: Emma Louisa Orme
Date of Birth: 18 Feb 1878
Gender: Female
Birth County or District: Haldimand
Father's Name: Thomas Graham Orme
Mother's Name: Louisa Eleonor Flowers
[image shows a delayed rego, made 22/3/1945 - informant is sis Minnie B McCutcheon]
[Thos pob=Niagara Falls (US, I think) Lou pob=Yorkshire]

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Louisa Orme
Name: Louisa Orme
Death Date: 20 Dec 1926
Death County or District: Haldimand
Age: 90
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Birth Location: England
[d/o John Flowers + Mary Bickerdite]

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Thomas G Orme
Name: Thomas G Orme
Death Date: 9 Aug 1881
Death County or District: Haldimand
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834


Search for Orme d/o Tho* & Lou*
View Record Name Spouse Name Marriage Date Marriage Location View Image
View Record Maria Orme Joseph Bowman 25 Jan 1887 Haldimand
View Record Mary C Orme Albert A Stevens 18 Oct 1885 Lincoln
View Record John Orme Bella Mcdonald 8 Oct 1891 Lincoln
View Record George Henry Orme Mary Evelyn Wilhinson 25 Jun 1902 Wentworth
View Record Thomas Graham Orme Flavia May Mcindoe 25 Oct 1899 Haldimand
View Record Minnie Belle Orme Thos John Mccutcheon 16 Oct 1907 Haldimand


View Record Name Birth Date Gender Birth County or District Father's Name Mother's Name View Image
View Record Albert Edward Orme 26 Sep 1870 Male Haldimand Thomas G Orme Louisa E Flowers
View Record Minnie Bell Orme 29 May 1876 Female Haldimand Thomas Orme Louisa Flowers
View Record Emma Louisa Orme 18 Feb 1878 Female Haldimand Thomas Graham Orme Louisa Eleonor Flowers
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View Record Gertude Maria Brien 26 May 1898 Female Kent George R Brien Nellie Orme
View Record Georgina Evangeline Brien 22 Sep 1902 Female Kent George Brien Nellie Orme
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View Record Wm Oemo Bowman 3 Aug 1889 Male Kent Joseph H Bowman Maria Orme
View Record Earl Joseph Bowman 2 Aug 1893 Male Kent Joseph Bowman Maria Orme
View Record Gordon Elden Bowman 24 Jul 1896 Male Kent Joseph Bowman Maria Orme
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View Record Thomas Gordon Orme 15 Apr 1893 Male Haldimand John Wesley Orme Isabella Mc Donald
View Record Marion Madeline Orme 20 Aug 1898 Female Haldimand John Orme Belle Mcdonald
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View Record Gladys Gertrude Orme 28 Jan 1910 Female Haldimand Thomas Graham Orme Flavia May Mcindoe
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View Record Minnie Ellenor Coverdale 2 Jun 1898 Female Haldimand John Charles Coverdale Emma Louise Orme
View Record Murriel Mary Annetta Coverdale 21 Oct 1905 Female Haldimand John Charles Coverdale Louisa Emma Orme
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View Record Thomas Orme Mccutcheon 24 Nov 1903 Male Haldimand Thomas J Mccutcheon Minnie Orme
View Record Lloyd Eldon Mccutcheon 17 Jan 1906 Male Haldimand Thomas J Mccutcheon Minnie B Orme
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Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 19 Feb 2012 23:30

No Problem.

I'm off to bed shortly, but will take a look tomorrow.

Lynne

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 19 Feb 2012 22:58

Lynne
If you really want a puzzle....see below...

: Millage Albert Stevens
Birth Place: United States
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Father Name: Robert Stevens
Mother Name: Ann Stevens
Spouse Name: Mary Noble
Spouse's Age: 32
Spouse Birth Place: Ireland
Spouse Father Name: Andrew Noble
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Noble
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1875
Marriage County or District: Welland

When you view the original it says he was a widower.
Who was the 1st Wife?

Have fun lol

Gerri


Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 19 Feb 2012 22:55

Marriage of John Orme, brother of Mary:

Name: John Orme
Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Father Name: Thomas Orme
Mother Name: Louisa Orme
Spouse Name: Bella Mcdonald
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario
Spouse Father Name: Denis Mcdonald
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Mcdonald
Marriage Date: 8 Oct 1891
Marriage County or District: Lincoln

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 19 Feb 2012 22:43

Already got that one Lynne :-P lol

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 19 Feb 2012 22:40

Mary;s Marriage:

Name: Mary C Orme
Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Father Name: Thomas Orme
Mother Name: Louise Ne Flowers Orme
Spouse Name: Albert A Stevens
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario
Spouse Father Name: Millage A Stevens
Spouse Mother Name: Eliza Ne Jamison Stevens
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1885
Marriage County or District: Lincoln


1901 Canadian census for Mary Stevens nee Orme:

Name: Mary Stevens
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 38
Birth Day & Month: 11 Mar
Birth Year: 1863
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Occupation: Confect
Province: Ontario
District: Hamilton (city/cité)
District Number: 69
Sub-District: Hamilton (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 4
Sub-District Number: D-6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Stevans 46
Mary Stevens 38
Alberta Stevens 13

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 19 Feb 2012 22:25

You're welcome.

Lynne :-D

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 19 Feb 2012 22:20

Thanks again Lynne from oop norf from me down sauff ;-)

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 19 Feb 2012 22:05

Possible departure for Louisa Flowers, mother of Mary:

Name: Louisa Flower
Arrival Date: 29 May 1843
Birth Year: abt 1835
Age: 8
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Virginia
Search Ship Database: Search the Virginia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 19 Feb 2012 21:51

Mary's sister - Louisa's Birth Registration:-

Name: Emma Louisa Orme
Date of Birth: 18 Feb 1878
Gender: Female
Birth County or District: Haldimand
Father's Name: Thomas Graham Orme - born Niagra Falls
Mother's Name: Louisa Eleonor Flowers - born Yorkshire, England


Death record of Mary's Parents:

Name: Louisa E. Orme
Death Location: Haldimand, Ontario
Burial Place: Haldimand, Ontario
Notes: Thomas G. Orme Died July 31st 1881. In the 49 Year Of His Age ----- His Wife Louisa E. Flowers Died Dec. 20th 1926 In The 91 Year of Her Age ORME


Marriage of Mary's Parents:
Name: Louisa L. Flowers
Birth Place: England
Residence: Dunnville
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Father Name: John Flowers
Mother Name: Mary Flowers
Spouse Name: Thomas Orme
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse Birth Place: Lockport NY
Spouse Residence: Dunnville
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Orme
Spouse Mother Name: Martha Orme
Marriage Date: 1 Aug 1859
Marriage County or District: Haldimand

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 19 Feb 2012 21:31

Lynne From Up North !! Your a treasure! Huge thankyou x