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?1851 same as above family but no Charles

G number: HO107 Piece: 1475 Folio: 291 Page: 27


Reg. District: Saint George Hanover Square Sub District: Hanover Square
Parish: Saint George Hanover Square Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Saint Marks City/Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: 2, Weavers Court North Row, Saint George Hanover Square, Westminster
County: Middlesex

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
MAYHEW, Elizabeth Head Married F 37 1814 Dress Maker
Northampton
Lincolnshire
MAYHEW, Robert Son M 13 1838 Scholar At Home
St Martins Westminster
Middlesex
MAYHEW, William Son M 11 1840 Scholar At Home
St Martins Westminster
Middlesex
MAYHEW, Thomas Son M 3 1848
St George
Middlesex
Westminster

Here's a possibility, though no Charles.

1841 England Census
Name: William Mayhew
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Little Marylebone St

Occupation: M.S.

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Cavendish Square
Piece: 676
Book: 5
Folio: 51
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
William Mayhew 25
Elizabeth Mayhew 25 - Dress M.
Robert Mayhew 3
William Mayhew 1
Ann Manton 20 [Image looks like 10 yrs to me.]

More information now at hand!

Charles Mayhew to Mary Norris marriage certificate gives his father's name as William and occupation (I think as Butler).

Birth certificate March 1841 (sub-district of Tottenham) has William Mayhew as father, occupation is valet.

Mother Elizabeth (formerly Spire, Shire, Spice??). Possibly gives her age as 24.

I am still unable to find Charles Mayhew or his parents William and Elizabeth on the 1841 or 1851 census records, Perhaps if he was in service as a valet/Butler he could have travelled with his employers abroad?? Clutching at straws now!!

Any ideas folks??

Hi Ozi

Yes I am pretty sure that I am trying to locate the early years and parents of the Charles registered in St Pancras as that appears to always be listed as where he was born in the later census records.

As the other one was registered only a few miles away it was worth looking into just to rule out any possibility that he was the Charles Mayhew I was tracing. At the moment I still have not found him with his parents in 1841 or 1851 but hopefully the birth certificate and marriage certificate can give me some help with parents names.

Thanks for posting :-)

Isn't the baptism for this bloke?
Births Jun 1840 Mayhew Charles Roberts Kensington 3 259

I thought this was the bloke the info was needed for.
Births Mar 1841 Mayhew Charles St Pancras 1 342

Ozi

Having looked a bit more at the Charles Mayhew born 1841, St Ann Westminster/Soho he appears to be in the same area in 1861 and 1871, a tinplate worker and married to Elizabeth. This is probably the son of Sarah from Farnham.

I did find Sarah Tyler on the 1861 census and three of her children were with her but their name was transcribes as Mayhan.

Thanks to all, I'm logging off for a bit now so won't be around to reply.

Martyn

Thanks T (Tracey?)

I wasn't ignoring your posts just trying to work out if i could trace Sarah Mayhew and her family further.

By 1881 she appears to be Sarah Tyler(Widow) born Farnham living with her son George born 1842 in Soho.

I'm just trying to work out when she married a Tyler though!

Still working on it but thanks for the help and suggestions.

Keeps me out of the wife's hair anyway ;-)

This is the same one on A*stry parish records and the mother's name is Sarah?

Name:Charles Robert Mayhew
Record Type:Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1840
Baptism Date:3 May 1840
Father's Name:Jabez Mayhew
Mother's Name: Sarah Mayhew
Parish or Poor Law Union:Paddington St James
Borough:Westminster
Register Type:Parish Registers

*EDIT: address Caroline Place, Bayswater. Jabez is a Coach Maker. Born 10 Apr 1840.

Could this be the next youngest brother George?

Name:George William Mayhew
Record Type:Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1842
Baptism Date:3 Apr 1842
Father's Name:Jabez Mayhew
Mother's Name:Sarah Mayhew
Parish or Poor Law Union:Paddington St James
Borough:Westminster
Register Type:Parish Registers


T x

a possible?

Name:Charles Robert Mayhew
Gender:Male
Baptism/Christening Date:03 May 1840
Baptism/Christening Place:SAINT JAMES,PADDINGTON,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date:10 Apr 1840
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:Jabez Mayhew
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name:
Sarah:
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C07903-2
System Origin:England-ODM
Source Film Number:579297

Ivy

Thanks for posting while I was composing my reply (I take ages typing at times). That is also a promosing lead.

EDIT: And I must add the birth cert as well!

Martyn

Thanks Jan, Dea, Chris

The 1964 Marriage info was what I had in mind already and now confirmed in part by the 1861 census.

The 1841 census from Chris I now have researched a bit more and feel is probably not the one. Sarah is still in Clerkenwell in 1851 (widowed) and with Joseph(15), Mary(8) and Emma(5). Searching BMD between 1838 and 1851shows births in Clerkenwell of Jane (from the 1841 census), Robert (b1839), Mary Ann (b1841), Emma(1843) and Robert James(1846). Searching deaths show that a Robert died in 1840, Robert James 1846 and Joseph (the husband/father in 1849).

Mary Ann was presumably the 3 month old child in 1841and of couse I believe I am looking for a Charles with a birth registered earlier the same year.

But thanks for the suggestion Chris! :-)

If anyone else is reading this and has any clever ways of searching census records for 1841 or 1851 i would still be interested in finding Charles Mayhew born 1841 St. Pancras, Middlesex.

I will also add Charles and Mary Norris' marriage cert to my next GRO order.

Thanks,

Martyn

Just throwing this one from the 1851 census into the mix - the Strand is vaguely the right area, mum Sarah is a widow, the family need an income if he is going to be a teacher (mum is running a coffee house), and the mother is from Farnham in Surrey, which is on the Hampshire border, so perhaps there was a family connection to get him from Shoreditch to Hampshire - but this is pure conjecture and the 1864 marriage certificate is definitely needed...

Name: Charles Mayhew
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Mayhew
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Ann Westr

Civil parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 1510
Folio: 217
Page Number: 22

Name Age
Sarah Mayhew 41
Charles Mayhew 10
George Mayhew 9
Maria Mayhew 5
John Mayhew 4
Harriet Little 26

1841

MAYHEW, Joseph M 35 1806 Middlesex
MAYHEW, Sarah F 35 1806 Middlesex
MAYHEW, Joseph M 4 1837 Middlesex
MAYHEW, Jane F 2 1839 Middlesex
MAYHEW, - F 0 (3 months) 1841 Middlesex

Piece:
661 Book/Folio:
3/17 Page:
26 Registration District:
St James Clerkenwell

Civil Parish:
St James Clerkenwell Municipal Borough:
Finsbury Address:
Compton Street, St James Clerkenwell, Finsbury County:
Middlesex

(not sure of above, not seeing anything on London Baptisms)

Chris :)

OOPS! You are right. This is the marriage. I fear a cert is in order:

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
Mayhew Charles Hartley W 2c 295
Norris Mary Hartley W 2c 295

Jan

Naughty Jan !! - How dare you suggest deleting useful info !!! :-D

I thought the marriage was in Hampshire?

I will gladly look up a London marriage if you tell me which one I am looking for.

Martyn - It is always a 'no no' to delete info once it has been found, especially if you would like more info on the same people.;-)

Just add on to here what you would like next - that way we have all the info together and don't have to go re-finding it.

Dea Xxx

Hi Jan

Thanks for all your help. It's progress anyway :-)

Martyn

Crossed posts there.
What you now need is a marriage lookup for his father's name. I think this should be available on Ancestry Parish records, but I don't have full membership - hopefully someone else will be able to access this.
Jan

Absolutely! And of course I missed the Norris family because it was spelt Noris!

Just realised - this supports his marriage theory as he is living in the Norris household!

Thanks for the 1861. That would explain a marriage to Mary Norris :-)