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Grandfather Farrell.

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dunquin

dunquin Report 11 May 2012 21:38

Here's what I know for sure.
Lawrence Francis Farrell 1838-1922 married Johanna Flynn1839-1884.Their children were John, Peter, Lawrence,and Michael.
When Johanna died, Lawrence Francis married Elizabeth Noonan. They had William and Hugh.
Peter had 8 children. Lawrence had 10 children, and Michael had one child. I have all their names.
I would like to find info on Johanna Flynn. Thanks. Patricia.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Apr 2012 18:30

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These are the names of my great grandparents from Waterford. Their son was also Lawrence who married Mary Ellen Finn.Johanna Flynn was born in 1839 and died in 1884. Her husband re married an Elizabeth Noonan.
It is possible that John Joseph Farrell was lawrence jrs brother

June

June Report 11 Mar 2012 12:26

the two witnesses on Patricks Marriage cert a John Holmes & a
Sarah Jones....

June

June Report 11 Mar 2012 12:15

Should have said i got Patrick's Marriage Cert...
Patrick Married Annie Callaghan in 1888 in Middlesbrough.
Father of groom Lawrence, June

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 Mar 2012 12:05

I see them 1901 and 1911 - and he only has Ireland as his birthplace, how annoying of him!
Who are the witnesses on the cert?
Jan

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Mar 2012 12:04

So is this the family in 1891 census:-

RYAN, Lawrence Head Married M 50 1841 Labourer Ship Yard
Ireland
RYAN, Bridget Wife Married F 40 1851
Ireland
RYAN, Michael Son Single M 22 1869 Labourer Ship Yard
Ireland
RYAN, John Son Single M 20 1871 Labourer Foundry
Ireland
RYAN, Bridget Daughter F 12 1879
Middlesbrough
Yorkshire
RYAN, Bernard Son M 10 1881
Middlesbrough
Yorkshire
DEIGMAN, Bartley Lodger Married M 34 1857 General Labourer
Ireland
FARREL, Patrick Lodger Married M 32 1859 General Labourer
Ireland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
FARREL, John Lodger Married M 30 1861 General Labourer
Ireland

Address:
20, Randolph Street, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough

Piece: 4013
Folio: 126
Page: 19
Registration District: Middlesbrough

Seems strange that he is living with a Lawrence but he can't be his father as his surname is Ryan.

Kath. x

June

June Report 11 Mar 2012 12:01

Should have said i got Patrick's Marriage Cert...
Patrick Married Annie Callaghan in 1888 in Middlesbrough.
Father of groom Lawrence, June

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Mar 2012 11:55

Can you tell us where you got Patrick's father's name from?

That way we can be sure to look for the correct family.

Kath. x

June

June Report 11 Mar 2012 11:51

May i thank each & everyone of you for taking the time to look up these Family's for me & so very quick....i have a lot to look into to,
Kind regard's to you all ......June x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Mar 2012 11:43

if Alice IS his sister then the marriage cert should confirm the dads name.

Presume you got the name of Lawrence from Patrick's marriage cert ??

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Mar 2012 11:41

possibly Kath . there seems to be lots of Farrell families

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Mar 2012 11:36

I'm confused by this.

Do we have different families here as the Patrick and John Farrell on the 1881 census with the Wynn's seem to have parents called John and Alice (not Lawrence and Johanna)?

Kath. x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Mar 2012 11:36

Name: Alice Farrell
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1877
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 1072

spouse Owen Wynne !

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Mar 2012 11:33

John Farrell
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1863 Ireland
census: 31 Mar 1901 Middlesbrough,? Yorkshire (North Riding),? England


name: John Farrell
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 38
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Ireland
record type: Household
registration district: Middlesbrough
sub-district: Middlesbrough
ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
civil parish: Middlesbrough
county: Yorkshire (North Riding)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Mar 2012 11:30

???????


John Joseph Farrell
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 16 Aug 1865 0883,?WATERFORD,?WATERFORD,?IRELAND
residence: 1865 Wat,? Ireland
parents: Laurence Farrell,? Johanna Flynn


name: John Joseph Farrell
gender: Male
birth date: 16 Aug 1865
birthplace: 0883,WATERFORD,WATERFORD,IRELAND
father's name: Laurence Farrell
mother's name: Johanna Flynn
indexing project (batch) number: C70126-5
system origin: Ireland-ODM
source film number: 101113

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Mar 2012 11:30

I corrected the birth place for John as I took another look at the actual census page .thanks :-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Mar 2012 11:30

??????


John Farrell
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 08 Feb 1864 0794,?KNOCKTOPHER,?KILKENNY,?IRELAND
residence: 1864 Kilk,? Ireland
parents: Lawrence Farrell,? Mary Barden


name: John Farrell
gender: Male
birth date: 08 Feb 1864
birthplace: 0794,KNOCKTOPHER,KILKENNY,IRELAND
father's name: Lawrence Farrell
mother's name: Mary Barden
indexing project (batch) number: C70122-4
system origin: Ireland-ODM
source film number: 101083

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Mar 2012 11:28

This looks like the family in the 1871 census (going by the ages of the children and their birthplaces they seem to have come to England between 1862 and 1864):-

FARRELL, John Head M 35 1836 Ireland
FARRELL, Alice Wife F 30 1841 Ireland
FARRELL, Alice Daughter F 12 1859 Ireland
FARRELL, Patrick Son M 10 1861 Ireland
FARRELL, Catherine Daughter F 9 1862 Ireland
FARRELL, Francis Son M 7 1864 Yorkshire
FARRELL, Mary A Daughter F 3 1868 Yorkshire
FARRELL, John Son M 0 1871 Yorkshire
KEEGAN, Thomas Boarder M 25 1846 Ireland
DOLAN, Peter Boarder M 24 1847 Ireland
MCLOUGHLAN, Patt Boarder M 24 1847 Ireland
MAGOVERN, Hugh Boarder M 28 1843 Ireland

Address:
Henry Street, Middlesbrough

Piece: 4891
Folio: 63
Page: 23
Registration District: Stockton

Kath. x

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 11 Mar 2012 11:25

Presumably Alice is his sister, do you think? Tried to find her 1911 to see if a birthplace is given but no luck so far.

1881 England Census

Name: Alice Wynn
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Owen Wynn
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 11 Gas Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

Owen Wynn 25
Alice Wynn 24
John Wynn 2
Francis Wynn
Miles Wynn 45
Patrick Farrell 20
John Farrell 11

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Mar 2012 11:24

The 11 year old John Farrell was born in MIddlesbrough - not Ireland.

Kath. x