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alviegal
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18 Mar 2012 19:25 |
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Henry from 1851's birth.
name: Henry Shields gender: Male baptism/christening place: , HADDINGTON, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND birth date: 03 Apr 1829 birthplace: , Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland father's name: William Shields mother's name: Eliza Cooper
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Helen
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18 Mar 2012 15:08 |
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There are actually two entries for the marriage of Henry and Mary.
You have the one from Penicuik .. the other is in Dundee where Henry would be living at the time the Banns were called. Might be worth a look as sometimes these banns contain extra information.
HENRY SHIELDS Marriages: Spouse: MARY HANTON Marriage: 03 JUN 1852 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
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18 Mar 2012 09:59 |
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Good Luck and do let us know if you reach any conclusions
Kay
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patriciaanne
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18 Mar 2012 07:33 |
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I have sent a request for the cost of the Entry Papers for Excise Men to The Archives.
I also found the above records and death announcement recently. I hadn't thought about a wrong transcription but have made a note to see if that Henry Shiells could possibly be the father of the Henry Shiells I am following. I m putting all the pieces of information I am receiving together in the hope that they may lead somewhere. I am going to Scotland and Ireland in July on a Family History journey so the more I know before then the better. Thank you for your interest.
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18 Mar 2012 06:29 |
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Sorry I don't know what information it would contain.
On another approach Henry, Mary and family seem disappear by 1861. Have you tried Scotlands People for Henry's death or Mary's.
Edit - Scotlands People also have detials of wills etc and maybe these would explain why the family disappear with Henry dying in Ireland
SHIELLS HENRY 15/02/1864 OFFICER OF INLAND REVENUE RESIDING AT RAMELTON IN COUNTY DONEGAL NOTE OF LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION ONLY EDINBURGH SHERIFF COURT INVENTORIES SC70/1/119
SHIELLS HENRY 15/02/1864 OFFICER OF INLAND REVENUE, RESIDING IN RAMELTON IN COUNTY OF DONEGAL LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION EDINBURGH SHERIFF COURT WILLS SC70/4/90
Also found this death announcement-
November 13 1863 - November 10, at his residence, Ramelton, MR HENRY SHIELLS, officer of Inland Revenue, aged 85 years. Maybe the age was a mistranscription and could be 35
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/aughnishbmdnotices.htm
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patriciaanne
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18 Mar 2012 01:02 |
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I have found a record on The National Archives for a Henry Shiells Item Reference CUST 116/34/12 Henry Shiells. Entry Papers for services as an Excise man 1851
If I order and pay for this record can anyone give me an idea of what information I am likely to receive.
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patriciaanne
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17 Mar 2012 23:54 |
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Thank you Helen - I have not seen that before.
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Helen
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17 Mar 2012 23:13 |
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Dundee Directories:
1853: Henry Shills - Officer of the Inland Revenue - living at 26 Small's Wynd.
This could fit in with the marriage information you found for Henry Shiells and Mary Hunton in Dundee 1852
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patriciaanne
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17 Mar 2012 22:55 |
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I am fairly new at this. Does anyone have any suggestions on what they would do from here?
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GlitterBaby
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17 Mar 2012 22:33 |
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1861 will not help
Name: Elizabeth Shiels Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: St Cuthbert, edinburghsh Registration number: 694 Registration district: Midcalder Civil parish: Midcalder County: Midlothian Address: Private Houses Occupation: Scholar ED: 5 Household schedule number: 35 Line: 24 Roll: CSSCT1861_133 Household Members: Name Age James Clarkson 46 Isabella Clarkson 45 Helen M Y Clarkson 5 Elizabeth Robb 2 Elizabeth Shiels 8 Agnes Shiels 7 Mary Shiels 5
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Helen
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17 Mar 2012 22:22 |
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Some of the children from the 1851 census K sent
Father: Charles Hunton Mother: Margaret
Jane Hunton - Gender: Female Christening: 02 NOV 1834 St Hilda, South Shields, Durham, England
Margaret Hunton - Gender: Female Christening: 08 JAN 1843 Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England
JOHN ROBERT HUNTON - Gender: Male Christening: 04 FEB 1849 Saint Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
CATHARINE ANN HUNTON - Gender: Female Christening: 03 MAR 1847 Saint Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
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Helen
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17 Mar 2012 22:00 |
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Another view of the 1851 census for Henry Shiells from Freecen.
It is transcribed as a separate dwelling .. not attached to the McDougall family.
Piece: SCT1851/709 Place: Haddington -East Lothian Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Haddington Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Haddington Folio: 0 Page: 14 Schedule: 55 Address: Lodge Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks SHIELLS Henry - U M 21 Frmr Attorney's Clerk Exchqur East Lothian - Haddington SHIELLS Eliza Gemma Sister U F 20 East Lothian - Haddington SHIELLS Ross Brothr U M 16 Lawyer's Apprentice East Lothian - Haddington SHIELLS John Cooper Brothr - M 14 Scholar East Lothian - Haddington PEADIE Jane Servnt U F 16 Domestic Servant East Lothian - Haddington
Same family in 1841 .. living in Court St.
Piece: SCT1841/709 Place: Haddington -East Lothian Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: St Johns Haddington Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St John Q.S.- Folio: 7 Page: 5 Address: Court Street
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks SHIELLS William M 40 Brewer East Lothian SHIELLS William G. M 15 East Lothian SHIELLS Henry M 12 East Lothian SHIELLS Elizabeth G. F 10 East Lothian SHIELLS Robert T. M 8 East Lothian SHIELLS John C. M 5 East Lothian SCOTT Lizy F 45 Female Servant East Lothian EDINGTON Marrion F 20 Female Servant East Lothian SHIELLS Ross M 6 East Lothian
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patriciaanne
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17 Mar 2012 21:57 |
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Could someone please look up the 1871 census for me to follow up on the Elizabeth, Agnes and Mary Shiels that "Catherine" posted above on the 1861 census. Thnak you.
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patriciaanne
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17 Mar 2012 21:53 |
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Apologies for the late reply - morning again in Australia. Thank you for all the information. Looks like I have some work to do. I had also seen the 1851 census with Henry Shiels living with Alexander McDougall the Inland Revenue Officer in Lodge Street Haddington and wondered if there was a connection. There is also a Mary Shiels (born about 1859) on the 1871 census, a servant, living with the Brown family in Court Street Haddington which is the same street that a Henry Shiells was living in on the 1841 census. Maybe wishful thinking on my part but perhaps there is a link somewhere.
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alviegal
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17 Mar 2012 21:47 |
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Just to discount the birth found by AnnCardiff, that particular Henry was a coachbuilder who was still around in 1891.
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17 Mar 2012 19:38 |
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Whilst this Henry may not be yours I wonder if he was the one who married Mary Hunton. Interesting that he was lving with someone who worked for the Inland Revenue
1851
Name: Henry Shiells Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Gender: Male Where born: Haddington, haddingtonshire (East Lothian) Parish Number: 709 Civil parish: Haddington Town: Haddington County: East Lothian Address: Lodge Street Occupation: Formerly Attorneys Clerk In The Excheguer Edinburgh ED: 1 Page: 14 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 55 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1851_192 Household Members: Name Age Alexander McDaugall 43 Officer Of Inland Revenne Cathrie Mcdougall 43 Daniel Mcdougall 15 James Mcdougall 9 Alexander Campbell Mcdougall 1 Janet Wilkie 15 Henry Shiells 21 Eliza Garner Shiells 20 Ross Shiells 16 John Cooper Shiells 14 Jane Peadie 16
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Catherine
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17 Mar 2012 18:37 |
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The birth/marriage for Margaret Eliza:-
MARGARET ELIZA SHIELLS Female Event(s): Birth: 21 OCT 1853 Christening: 29 JAN 1854 Fettercairn, Kincardine, Scotland Parents: Father: HENRY SHIELLS Mother: MARY HUNTER
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Catherine
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17 Mar 2012 18:30 |
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1861 is not correct one but I will leave it for elimination:-
Birth/Christening, 1850 - 1860, Midlothian, Scotland, British Isles Father: Robert Shiels, Mother: Elizabeth
1. MARY GILLESPIE CUTHBERTSON SHIELDS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 24 MAR 1856 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 2. ELIZABETH JANE SHIELDS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 07 NOV 1852 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 3. AGNES ANDERSON SHIELLS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 29 APR 1854 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 4. ELIZABETH JANE SHEILLS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 07 NOV 1852 Dean And Chalmers Free Church, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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Catherine
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17 Mar 2012 18:24 |
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????
1861 Scotland Census about Mary Shiels
Name:Mary Shiels Age:5 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1856 Relationship:Boarder Gender:Female Where born:St Cuthberty, edinburghsh Registration number:694 Registration district:Midcalder Civil parish:Midcalder County:Midlothian Address:Well Street Occupation:Scholar ED:5 Household schedule number:35 Line:1 Roll: CSSCT1861_133 Household Members: Name Age James Clarkson 46 Isabella Clarkson 45 Helen M Y Clarkson 5 Elizabeth Robb 2 Elizabeth Shiels 8 Agnes Shiels 7 Mary Shiels 5 EDIT:- Not this one, see below.
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17 Mar 2012 17:46 |
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In 1911 Mary Jane's birthplace certainly looks like Pennycook which is pronouced very similiar to Penicuik. You may have this already but could this be the Mary Hunton in 1851 who later married Henry? Interesting that the father Charles was also a Officer Of Inland Revenue
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Name: Mary Hunton Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Hunton Mother's Name: Margt Hunton Gender: Female Where born: England Parish Number: 697 Civil parish: Penicuick Town: Penicuick County: Midlothian Address: Main St Occupation: At Home ED: 5 Page: 9 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 39 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1851_190 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hunton 50 Officer Of Ireland (Inland?)Revenue Margt Hunton 40 Mary Hunton 19 Jane Hunton 16 Isaba Hunton 14 James Hunton 12 Charles Hunton 10 Margt Hunton 8 Edward Hunton 6 Cathne A Hunton 4 Jno Robt Hunton 2
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