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helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 30 Mar 2012 12:57

HI i'm looking for John Morton LEE b april 1887 south norwood croydon and his parents John Morton Lee and Alice Sarah Lee nee Girdlestone. parents married sept 1886 westminster can't see them on the 1901 either and as i have no DOB/POB for them can't go any further. anyone see them??

many thanks Helenxx

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 13:01

Is this him in 1911?

Name: John Morton Lee
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Lewisham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Lindal Road, Crofton Pk, Brockley, London SE
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: MECHANICAL DRAUGHTSMAN
Registration district: Lewisham
Registration District Number: 29
Sub-registration district: Lewisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Piece: 2776
Household Members: Name Age
William Arthur Johnson 31
Blanche S York 30
John Morton Lee 23

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 13:04

And the father in 1881?

Name: John Morton Lee
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Lee
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 60 Frith St
Occupation: Commercial Clerk Printers

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 129
Folio: 70
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Lee 55
Charles H. Lee 23
John Morton Lee 19
Henry Edward Lee 16
Jessie M. Lee 13


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 13:05

Name: John Morton Lee
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 Feb 1862
Christening Date: 7 Sep 1862
Christening Place: Westminster, London, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Morton Horace Lee
Mother's Name: Mary

Gee

Gee Report 30 Mar 2012 13:05

For info that has already been found


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1295812

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1294840

helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 30 Mar 2012 13:12

thanks guys for the info which all looks correct !! it's the 91 and 01 that i'm interested in. if it helps the address for johns birth 1887 is 108 birchanger road south norwood on case they are mistranscribed?
Hx

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 13:15

Thanks Gins, wasn't aware of other threads.

How much of what I looked for has already been found, I wonder???????

helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 30 Mar 2012 13:17

eeeerrrrr NONE i would not waste peoples time!! i have only just got Johns parents names this morning!!
Hx

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 13:55

That's OK then.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:05

Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
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GIRDLESTONE Alice Sarah Gloucester 6a 234


From Glosbmd - brilliant site

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
GIRDLESTONE Alice Sarah GIRDLESTONE GIRDLESTONE LODER 1862 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 14 51


Siblings - assuming it's the right Alice, of course!

GIRDLESTONE Horace Edwin GIRDLESTONE GIRDLESTONE LODER 1864 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 15 90
GIRDLESTONE John Owen GIRDLESTONE GIRDLESTONE LODER 1861 Gloucester Gloucester, St John the Baptist 12 291

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:06

1871

Name: Alice Sarah Girdlestone
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah Girdlestone
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 369
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Girdlestone 41
John Owen Girdlestone 10
Alice Sarah Girdlestone 8
Horace Edwin Girdlestone 6
Bessey Teavor 6 Niece

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:10

Horace may have emigrated..Ancestry links his name to 1910 US census

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:12

Name: John Owen Girdlestone
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Melanie Shepard
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Aug 1886
Parish: Gray's Inn Road St Jude
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Edwin Owen Girdlestone
Spouse Father Name: William Lively Shepard
Register Type: Parish Register

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:14

1891

Name: John Owen Girdlestone
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St George Hanover Square
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Mayfair
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 69
Folio: 6
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Owen Girdlestone 30 Widower
Amy Maud Sara 39 Servant


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:19

Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)
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Girdlestone Edwin Owen Bath 5c 1221
Loder Sarah Bath 5c 1221

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:22

Image is HORACE

Name: Harold Edwin Girdlestone
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Spouse Name: Bertrice Sheperd
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Jan 1889
Parish: Kentish Town St Barnabas
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Edward Girdlestone
Spouse Father Name: William Lindy Sheperd
Register Type: Parish Register



Looks like brothers married sisters

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:25

Deaths Mar 1865 (>99%)
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GIRDLESTONE Edward Owen Gloucester 6a 215

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2012 14:29

Father and son - perhaps?

Deaths Jun 1942 (>99%)
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Lee John M 80 Bromley 2a 1111


Deaths Mar 1955 (>99%)
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LEE John M 67 Camberwell 5c 258

helenhedgehog

helenhedgehog Report 1 Apr 2012 10:33

thank you soooo much reggie!!! SORRY for the delayed reply internet probs :-(
best wishes Helenx

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Apr 2012 12:55

You're welcome, Helen

Just wish I'd been able to locate the Lee family on census records, but, no such luck!

In 1918, on the ER, John jr was at Edric Road, New Cross, which was his address when he enlisted in the Army in 1915