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LEO MUSSI

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Colin

Colin Report 4 Apr 2012 21:15

Trying to find any information on Leo Mussi born circa 1910-1920 either in Italy or of Italien parents in London. Changed name to Leo Massey and married Margaret Hollins in 1942. Believe was a singer with Cafe Colette.

Regards

Colin Hosford

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:22

Would help if you gave his full name!

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Alexander L Mussi
Name: Alexander L Mussi
Spouse Surname: Hollins (Margaret)
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1942
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 991

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:23

Any connection?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Alexander L Mussi
Name: Alexander L Mussi
Spouse Surname: Alonson (Isabel E)
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1929
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 155

jax

jax Report 4 Apr 2012 21:23

Or

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Leo Massey Name: Leo Massey
Spouse Surname: Hollins
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1942
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 991
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:25

... so was marriage registered in both names ?

jax

jax Report 4 Apr 2012 21:27

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Alexander Leo Massey Name: Alexander Leo Massey
Birth Date: 30 Jun 1900
Date of Registration: Mar 1985
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Camden
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 2247

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:30

Colin - where was Cafe Colette? - there are quite a few establishments by that name

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:42

British Phone Books, 1880-1984
Name: A. Leo Mussi
Address: 28 First av Bushey Bushey
Exchange: H
Directory Title: London Surnames L - Z Nov
Publication Year: 1934
Directory County: London
Page Number: 1241

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:45

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Alexander L Mussi
Electoral Year: 1950
Parliamentary Division: Hampstead
County or Borough: Camden

Living at 47 South Hill Park with Margaret.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:48

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Alexander Leo Mussi
Electoral Year: 1930
Parliamentary Division: Balham and Tooting and Clapham and Central
County or Borough: Wandsworth

Living Nightingale Lane with Isabela Eleana

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2012 21:54

Looks like Isabel(a) also remarried:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Isabel E Mussi
Spouse Surname: Fisher
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1945
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1216

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2012 04:20

Have you tried googling his name??

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2012 04:37

Is this him????

If so .............. his father was born in Italy, but he was born in Scotland!


1911 Census

Name: Alexander Mussi
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Aberdeen, Scotland
Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Buckingham Palace Rd
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: SCHOOL
Registration district: St George, Hanover Square
Registration District Number: 5
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 442

Adolph Mussi 35, b.ca 1876, Italy, Tea Rooms, Nationality Italian <<<<< omitted from record page, but on census image
Annie Mussi 30 b.ca 1881, Aberdeen, Scotland, assisting in business
Alexander Mussi 10
Agnes Mussi 8 b.ca 1903, Aberdeen
Rudolph Mussi 2 b.ca 1909, Aberdeen
Alexander Black 70 Visitor
Edith Ballinger 24 Assistant
William Atkins 42 Visitor




1901 Scottish Census

Name: Alexander Lee Mussi
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relationship: Grandson
Father's Name: Adolfo Mussi
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdeen
Registration number: 168/1
Registration district: St Nicholas
Civil parish: Aberdeen North
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 3 Hawthorn Terrace
ED: 20
Household schedule number: 274
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_51

Alexander Black 60 b.ca 1841, Fyvie, Aberdeen, House Carpenter
John M Black 28 b.ca 1873, Aberdeen, Clerk
Ann Black 20 b.ca 1881, Aberdeen, Holil Hall Porter's Wife
Adolfo Mussi 23 b.ca 1878, S.Italy, S.B., Son-in-Law, Hout Hall Lorter (sic)
Alexander Lee Mussi 9 Mo


Ancestry carries only a transcript of the Scottish Censuses, and as you can see, there are some mistranscriptions!

You need to look at Scotland's People for more information ............ including marriages and births. Scotland's People is a pay per view site ........... so it would be unfair to ask other people to do look ups.




sylvia

jax

jax Report 5 Apr 2012 04:56

No wonder I could not find him...FMP transcription...also the name you will find him under Genes as they are the same

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MUSSI, Shreander
Address: 1 Buckingham Palace Road


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MUSSI, Rodolph Married Married M 35 1876 Tea Rooms Italy VIEW
MUSSI, Annie Married Wife F 30 1881 Assisting Business Aberdeen VIEW
>>>MUSSI, Shreander Son Single M 10 1901 School Aberdeen VIEW
MUSSI, Agnes Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Aberdeen VIEW
MUSSI, Rudolph Son Single M 2 1909 Aberdeen VIEW
BLACK, Shreander Visitor Widower M 70 1841 Retired Joiner VIEW
BAFLINGER, Edith Assistant Single F 24 1887 Kensington VIEW
ATKINS, William Visitor Married M 42 1869 Head Steward Sligo Ireland VIEW

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2012 05:00

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965 about Adolphus Mussi

Name: Adolphus Mussi
Electoral Year: 1925
Parliamentary Division: Wandsworth
County or Borough: Wandsworth

from image...........

Address:- 311A Trinity Road s.w.18
(Abode 78 Trinity Road s.w. 17)


also registered there was Annie




Deaths Mar 1934 (>99%)

Mussi Annie 53 Battersea 1d 621




It may be that Adolfo was also known as Ridolfo ...............


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965 about Annie Mussi

Name: Annie Mussi
Electoral Year: 1925
Parliamentary Division: City of Westminster
County or Borough: Westminster

from image .....................

Address:- 197 Victoria Street s.w.1
(Abode:- 78 Trinity Street s.w.17)

Also registered there ..... Ridolfo Mussi




Deaths Mar 1948 (>99%)

Mussi Ridolfo 71 Surrey N.W. 5g 610




from googling Ridolfo


London Gazette .... announcement of naturalizations

Ridolfo Mussi (known as Adolphus Mussi) born Italy, naturalized 12 May 1915. Occupation Restaurant Keeper. Address:- 197 Victoria Street, London



Did Ridolfo marry again???


Marriages Sep 1941 (>99%)

Easton Mabel A Mussi Wandsworth 1d 1107
Mussi Ridolfo Easton Wandsworth 1d 1107






sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2012 05:14

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965 about Alexander Leo Mussi

Name: Alexander Leo Mussi
Electoral Year: 1930
Parliamentary Division: Balham and Tooting and Clapham and Central
County or Borough: Wandsworth


with Isabel Eleana Mussi

Address:- 71 Nightingale Lane s.w.12



In 1931and 1932, Alexander Leo Mussi and Isabel Elena are registered at 24 Dalebury Road s.w. 17


then no registration until 1938 and 1939, when he is alone at 8 Tierney Road s.w.2






sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2012 05:27

It looks like Alexander and Isabel divorced, and then she remarried ...... more than once!!!!!


Marriages Dec 1945 (>99%)

Alonso Isabel E Fisher Wandsworth 1d 1216
Fisher Charles J Scheel Wandsworth 1d 1216
Fisher Charles J Mussi Wandsworth 1d 1216
Fisher Charles J Alonso Wandsworth 1d 1216
Mussi Isabel E Fisher Wandsworth 1d 1216
Scheel Isabel E Fisher Wandsworth 1d 1216




London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965 about Isabel Elena Scheel

Name: Isabel Elena Scheel
Electoral Year: 1938
Parliamentary Division: Battersea
County or Borough: Wandsworth

with George Hans Christopher Scheel, at 22 Clapham Common West Side, s.w.4


she was alone in 1945.




sylvia

Colin

Colin Report 5 Apr 2012 20:49

To all in this thread. I hope I am replying in the correct manner . Apologies if I am not. Thanks for all the responses.There is a lot here to digest. All I had was a name Leo Mussi otherwise known as Leo Massey. Date of birth a guess. I have ordered the Marr Cert for 1942 to Margaret Hollins as a start.

I have googled the name and came up with a tenor singer with the Cafe Colette orchestra led by Walford Hyden. The cafe itself was a mythical cafe on the radio in the 1930's but the orchestra toured the country.

I will now read in detail the above and will await any other help. Thanks
Colin

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Apr 2012 23:11

Colin - do come back and let us know what's on the marriage certificate.

Colin

Colin Report 16 Apr 2012 22:47

Hi All,

Have received the marr cert for Alexander Leo Mussi and Margaret Hollins. His name is also given as "otherwise Leo Massey" age 42. Occupation variety artist which fits in with the person I am looking for. Cert also shows that the two names I was given are the same person. Have now ordered some more certs as he had a son Leo Maxwell Mussi born 1933. He was also sometimes called Massey. I believe I have found some living descendents on Facebook. I am awaiting a response. Will keep you posted.

Colin