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Hi there can someone please help me find the birth, parents @ sibblings of Lawrence Albert Clark. I have his marriage cert. to Lillian Clark, they married in 1919 West Derby in the County of Liverpool, UK. Lawrence is age 29yrs b.abt 1890, his occupation is "Mate Merchant Service" his father is recorded as Thomas Clark (dec'd), occup Engineer Merchant Service. I cant locate Lawrence or his father on any UK census. I would love to know where he was born, family etc. (I have his wifes details). There is a Lawrence A Clark that comes up in USA, but dont have access to check. Please help

just for our reference


is this the marriage?


Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)

Clark Lawrence A Clark W. Derby 8b 13_0
Clark Lillian Clark W. Derby 8b 1390




sylvia

Hi yes thats correct, I received the marriage cert in the post today

How old was he when he married?

How do you know his middle name was Albert?

What was the address on marriage cert and who were the witnesses please?

Dea x

On the marriage certificate he is 29yrs he married in 1919 making him born about 1890. His name on the marriage cert records him as being Lawrence Albert Clark

The address given for both Lillian and Lawrence on the marriage cert is (Calbarry Calbauy - C.Albauy C.Albary) Road ? its hard to read. The witnesses are Rosa Clark she is Lillian's twin sister and the othe is William John Tiler

If the certificate is difficult to read, is there any chance the middle name could be Alfred? And was he recorded as bachelor or widower?

Hi no its Albert, and he is a "bachelor". The person whom I'm helping with this family mentioned that there was someone in the family that comitted bigamy, and there was a write up in the papers, but he has no idea who it was, or when it happened

nnn

I was checking if the name could have been mis-read as there was a Lawrence Alfred born Boston, Lincolnshire in 1889 - so guess that's not him

I have found these but I have absolutely no idea if they are connected but I will post them for info:

Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941

Last name:CLARK
First names:Lawrence
Age:22
Day of birth:
Month of birth:
Year of birth:
Place of birth:Dublin
County/country of birth:Dublin
Card type:CR2
Discharge number:R 79179
Identity certificate no.:
Series:BT348
Date range:1921-1941
Piece number:1



Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941

Last name:CLARK
First names:Thomas
Age:
Day of birth:19
Month of birth:July
Year of birth:1874
Place of birth:Dublin
County/country of birth:Dublin
Card type:CR10
Discharge number:
Identity certificate no.:873530
Series:BT350
Date range:1918-1921
Piece number:

All it really means is that these two people were in the Merchant Navy.

They may not have any connection to each other, or to the people we are looking for.

Dea x

Julie

The fact that the certificate has the same address for both of them merely means that one did not live in the same parish.

This meant that Banns should have been read for 3 weeks in that parish as well as in the one where they were married.

To save the extra expense, many brides and grooms give the same address ............ I guess the vicars winked their eye at such blatant lying!


Of course, it is no help when you are looking for where one partner is from!




sylvia

Hi Im still looking for Lawrence, I wonder if he was born in the USA, does someone have access. Also Lawrence and Lillian weren't married for long as she married Thomas Douglas Earl in New Zealand in 1927, her daughter came with her to NZ (Rosa), So what happened to Lawrence or who was he, it was just after WW1 so Im thinking he may have been American, then skipped. Help this is driving me crazy

Wonder if this is a possibility?

Name: Lawrence Albert Clark
Event: Military
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Johnstown, Cambria, Pennsylvania
Residence: Johnstown, Cambria, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 May 1888
Film Number: 2243922
Digital Folder Number: 4128419
Image Number: 00087

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11686-5647-10?cc=1861144

Above link will take you to the image

I don't know, he said he was a merchant seaman

His father's name is Thomas and he also is a merchant seaman, engineer

Is this the person you are referring to in the USA? He is a married farmer and also appears in the same place in the World War 2 Draft again married. I can't see anyone who has the right father's name.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Lawrence Albert Clark
Name: Lawrence Albert Clark
County: Gallatin
State: Illinois
Birthplace: Illinois;United States of America
Birth Date: 2 Mar 1894
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1613405
DraftBoard: 0
Age:

Thanks, I think I'll give up put it in the 2 hard basket