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American arrivals 1907

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Terry

Terry Report 7 May 2012 19:32

Margee,that is an option,I think I have already tried it,but thank you for your time.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 May 2012 19:27

Some of the children's names on the 1911 census match 1901 but some don't. Could Jessie in 1901 be Lena in 1911?

1911 England Census
about Lena Hope Name: Lena Hope
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Acton, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Willesden
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 76 Shrewsbury Rd, Stonebridge, Harlesden N W
Occupation: Laundry Hand
Registration district: Willesden
Registration District Number: 129
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Household schedule number: 293
Piece: 7026
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hope 53
Louisa Hope 51
Molly Hope 23
Lenard Hope 20
Walter Hope 18
Bert Hope 16
Lena Hope 14
Robert Hope 9
Horace Hope 7
Minnie Smith 4

13 children born, 11 still living, 2 had died.

Terry

Terry Report 7 May 2012 19:21

Yes I think your right Belle,I will just have to keep on looking,thank you all for your time.and keep up the great work you do for this site.

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 7 May 2012 19:16

well Jennie would only have been 13/14 in 1907 so doubt she would have gone to US on her own and her father stays is England

Name: Robert Hope
Birth Date: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1931
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 289

I would discount that US tree

Terry

Terry Report 7 May 2012 19:12

Belle and Marie,yes this is the right family.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2012 19:10

Well, lets see what we can do! Is this the correct 1901:


HOPE, Robert Head Married M 46 1855 Engineer Bristol Gloucestershire
HOPE, Louisa Wife Married F 44 1857 Wanstead Essex
HOPE, Albert Son Single M 22 1879 Engineer Stratford Essex
HOPE, Mary Daughter Single F 21 1880 Childs Hill Middlesex
HOPE, Beatrice Daughter Single F 19 1882 Childs Hill
HOPE, Fanny Daughter Single F 17 1884 Childs Hill
HOPE, Leonard Son Single M 14 1887 Tottenham Middlesex
HOPE, Rody Daughter Single F 13 1888 Tottenham
HOPE, Walter Son M 9 1892 Tottenham
HOPE, Job Son M 6 1895 Tottenham
HOPE, Jennie Daughter F 5 1896 Willesden Middlesex
HOPE, Maud Daughter F 2 1899 Willesden

Registration District: Hendon
Civil Parish: Willesden

Address: 67, Queens Road, Willesden County: Middlesex

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 7 May 2012 19:08

there is a Jennie Hope in 1901 in Willsedon that fits but she could not be the one in US unless she married a man with the same surname

Name: Jennie Hope
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Hope
Mother's Name: Louisa Hope
Gender: Female
Where born: Willesden, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:


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Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 1215
Folio: 22
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Hope 46
Louisa Hope 44
Albert Hope 22
Mary Hope 21
Beatrice Hope 19
Fanny Hope 19
Leonard Hope 14
Rody Hope 13
Walter Hope 9
Job Hope 6
Jennie Hope 5
Maud Hope 2

Terry

Terry Report 7 May 2012 19:08

Belle no her name is on the tree with the source citations she has there,confused.com.

Terry

Terry Report 7 May 2012 19:06

Im sorry you all sound like its a mis-match on that tree,and maybe im clutching at staws,I have been looking for Jennie forever,I have details of all her other siblings now but she seems to be very elusive.your such a great lot on here and always very helpfull,

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 7 May 2012 19:05

when you say she has put her birth down as Jennie Hope, who do you mean? The tree owner or Jennie herself.

On the US census in 1920 and 30 she is obviously married to a John Hope

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2012 19:04

Terry, just to be clear - you're looking for a Jenny Hope born 1896 in Willesden?

If it's the Orlea tree then it does look like they've put the birth as Wilson.

Do you know who her parents and siblings are? Was finding that tree on Ancestry just a coincidence? Have you any reason to believe your girl did go to US?

Terry

Terry Report 7 May 2012 19:02

Maria,I am not 100% sure why she has put her birth down as Jennie Hope,and Jennie Hope is who Im looking for.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2012 19:00

RutlendBelle's quite right, I wouldn't trust the info on that tree. They also have a 1901 census for a Hope family that just couldn't be right.

If Terry tells us more then perhaps we can help properly.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2012 18:58

This would be the 1910 for the Jenniw Wilson on that tree:

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Jennie Wilson
Age in 1910: 13
Birth Year: 1897
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Lake Creek, Williamson, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1907
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Wilson
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Hannah Wilson
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Wilson 45
Hannah Wilson 42
John R Wilson 15
Jennie Wilson 13
Hannah G Wilson 10
Robert Ledder 27 [29]

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 7 May 2012 18:57

the tree on Ancestry is very confused as it has her down as Jennie Hope and father Robert Wilson. I would take it with a pinch of salt as the census returns in England do not relate to the people. They have just copied from another tree that is not actually the same family.

Gee

Gee Report 7 May 2012 18:52

For ref


1930 United States Federal Census
about Jennie Hope
Name: Jennie Hope
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Johnston City, Williamson, Illinois
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Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1907
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Hope
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hope 47
Jennie Hope 32
Ralph W Hope 15
John Hope 13
Robert Hope 9
Daisey I Hope 3
[3 8/12]
Dorthey Dean Hope 1
[1 11/12]


So Hope is her married name?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2012 18:50

Hi Terry, I'm not seeing an actual arrival for that year. The tree owner has taken that date from the 1920 census which asks the year they arrived in US.

Do you know the names of her parents/siblings and I'll look further.

The Jenny on that tree was obviously born Jennie Wilson and married John Hope - does that fit the Jenny that you're looking for?

Terry

Terry Report 7 May 2012 18:41

Hi all,please could someone look up a Jennie Wilson/Hope,in the 1907 american arrivals,I also have Jennie as in residence in 1920 at lake creek,Williamson,Illinois,and again in 1930 at Johnston City,Illinois.these are source citations from Ancestry,her birthdate is 24 july 1896 in Willesden,London.and her death date is 3 July 1955 Melrose Park,Cook,Illinois,her name I think was Hope,but looking at someones tree they have her down as Wilson,sounds a bit confusing I know,but if you could shed some light on this I would be a very happy person.
Thanking you.