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Nala
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31 May 2012 17:49 |
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Today i would like help finding a William Henry Bayliss and his wife Annie in the 1911 census. I think they could be in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.
Would they have any children now as they married in 1908? Annie was born in 1869 .
Thanks from Nala. :-)
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31 May 2012 17:54 |
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BAYLISS, William Henry Head Married M 43 1868 Baker Wixford Warwickshire VIEW BAYLISS, Annie Maria Wife Married20 years F 41 1870 Warwickshire Bir VIEW BAYLISS, William Henry Son Single M 19 1892 Baker Assistant Balsall Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, Frances Edith Daughter F 14 1897 Balsall Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, John Leslie Son M 12 1899 School Balsall Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, Beggie Victor Son M 11 1900 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, Dorothy Daughter F 10 1901 School Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, Norman Fredrick Son M 8 1903 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, Lawrence Earnest Son M 7 1904 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, Winnie Maria Daughter F 4 1907 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW BAYLISS, Marian Daughter F 1 1910 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 17848 Reference: RG14PN17848 RG78PN1091 RD383 SD1 ED25 SN119 Registration District: Kings Norton Sub District: Kings Norton Enumeration District: 25 Parish: Kings Norton Address: 122 Highbury Road King's Heath County: Worcestershire
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patchem
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31 May 2012 17:55 |
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Annie was married at age 39? Do you know William's age? Thanks
Added: 3 years: Marriages Jun 1908 BAYLISS William Henry Kidderminster 6c 373 CARTWRIGHT Annie Kidderminster 6c 373
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31 May 2012 17:55 |
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Do you have place of birth for either of them?
Vaguely possible:
1911 England Census
Name: Annie Bayliss Age in 1911: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Dudley, Worcestershire Civil parish: Dudley Castle Hill and Dudley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 12 Tower Street, Dudley, Worcestershire Marital Status: Married Years Married: 21 Estimated Marriage Year: 1890 Registration district: Dudley Registration District Number: 372 Sub-registration district: Dudley mbers: Name Age William Bayliss 43 Annie Bayliss 42 Gearge Bayliss 21 John Buckley 19 Albert Buckley 18 Sary Bayliss 14 William Bayliss 12 Beatrice Bayliss 10 Lily Bayliss 4 Florance May Bayliss 1 Samuel Tenley 29
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Nala
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31 May 2012 18:03 |
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I must have the wrong Annie as mine wa born in Ludlow, Shropshire in 1869.
There is another marriage of an Annie nee Cartwright in 1903 in Kidderminster,
Can you help me with this one. She married a George Lane or a Walter price. Nala.
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31 May 2012 18:17 |
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Aren't you working backwards, Nala? Much easier that way. Are you descended from Annie Cartwright? If so you would know who she married.
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patchem
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31 May 2012 18:22 |
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No Annie Cartwright born in Ludlow in 1869 on free bmd.
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patchem
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31 May 2012 18:26 |
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Presumably: 1901 England Census Annie Cartwright Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Cartwright Mother's name: Annie Cartwright Gender: Female Where born: Ludlow, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Foreign Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Puxton County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Household schedule number: 11 Piece: 2768 Folio: 37 Page Number: 2
James Cartwright 56 Annie Cartwright 54 Annie Cartwright 31 carpet sewer Elizabeth Cartwright 8 niece
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2768; Folio: 37; Page: 2.
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patchem
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31 May 2012 18:32 |
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How do you know she married at all?
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patchem
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31 May 2012 18:35 |
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Her parents. The niece from 1901 is now a daughter, and they claim 3 children born, 3 living: 1911 CARTWRIGHT, James Head Married M 68 1843 Gardener Kidderminster Worcs CARTWRIGHT, Annie Wife Married40 years F 65 1846 Carpet Sewer Munslow Salop CARTWRIGHT, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 18 1893 Carpet Picker Kidderminster Worcs
RG number: RG14 Piece: 17559 Reference: RG14PN17559 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED16 SN264A Registration District: Kidderminster Sub District: Kidderminster Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Kidderminster Borough Address: 418 Mill Street Kidderminster County: Worcestershire
No obvious Price or Lane.
Added: George Lane is married to Beatrice Annie. Walter William Price is married to Ethel.
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MargaretM
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31 May 2012 18:40 |
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How are you related to her?
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Nala
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31 May 2012 18:45 |
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The Annie i want was born in 1869 at Ludlow.
She was the child of John Romley Collier and Annie Davies who married in the Ludlow registration district, They had a daughter Annie,
In the 1881 census she is a Step daughter to my Gt Gt Grandfather James Cartwright.in Kidderminster.
She grew up in Kidderminster and used both Collier and Cartwright names.
An Annie Collier got married in 1903 at Kidderminster.
My late Mother always told us how secretive this family were and could never quite work out things. So she kept quiet. I am trying to progress as you will see i have done the backwards bit.
Hope this helps anyone trying to help me. Nala.
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patchem
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31 May 2012 18:47 |
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Where did you find the 1903 marriage details, as I cannot see it? Thanks
Added: We cross-posted, presumably it was a Collier marriage in 1903?
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Nala
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31 May 2012 18:49 |
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On Bmd. under Annie Collier 1903 Kidderminster.
Nala.
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MargaretM
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31 May 2012 18:51 |
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So she was Annie Collier not Annie Cartwright? She just took her stepfather's name on the census!
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patchem
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31 May 2012 18:53 |
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The 1903 marriage has 3 females and 2 males: Marriages Mar 1903 Brookes Beatrice Ann Kidderminster 6c 223 Collier Annie Kidderminster 6c 223 Gunn Sarah Ann Kidderminster 6c 223 Lane George Kidderminster 6c 223 Pugh Walter Kidderminster 6c 223
Walter Price or Walter Pugh?
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31 May 2012 18:55 |
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1911 PUGH, Walter Head/Father Married M 39 1872 Dyehouse Labourer Carpet Works Kidderminster Worcestershire PUGH, Annie Mother Married 8 years 4 children F 41 1870 Kidderminster Worcestershire PUGH, Annie Daughter F 7 1904 School Kidderminster Worcestershire PUGH, William Son M 5 1906 School Kidderminster Worcestershire PUGH, Walter Son M 3 1908 School Kidderminster Worcestershire PUGH, Alica Daughter F 1 1910 Kidderminster Worcestershire
RG number: RG14 Piece: 17552
Reference: RG14PN17552 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED9 SN158
Registration District: Kidderminster Sub District: Kidderminster Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Kidderminster Borough
Address: 1 Court 1 Lion Street Kidderminster County: Worcestershire
It would have helped to explain more at the start - such as why no birth showing under the name you had given on free bmd.
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Nala
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31 May 2012 19:41 |
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Thanks Patchem and co.
I have got mixed up a bit with this one.
As i was not sure i did not post too much info. I did not want everyone going off on wild Goose chases !
In 1919 she sent 3 postcards from her Holidays to my Grandmother. One signed Annie Pugh another Annie Cartwright and a 3rd Annie Collier.
Oh well !!! Thanks everyone from Nala. :-)
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