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Can some kind person try and help me find Rupert on the 1911 census, I have him on the 1881, 1891 and 1901, but can't find him after that, I have tried to find either a marriage or death but can't see anything.

He was born and baptised in March 1881 in Warwickshire, the son of John Henry Sabin and Frances Berrows.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Regards
Sandra

Have you found any of the family in 1911?

can only see him on the censuses same as you - sorry

I have his father and his new wife in 1911 Reggie

Thanks Ann, Im always glad when someone else finds it as difficult as me.

Regards
Sandra

Entry is Berrow ( no S)

Marriages Jun 1879 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Berrow Frances - Warwick 6d 701
HOWARD Sarah Warwick 6d 701
OVER Joseph Warwick 6d 701
Sabin John Henry - Warwick 6d 701
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the 1881 census

Frances Sabin
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1858
Birthplace: Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Condition: Married
Profession/Occupation:
Address: 16 Jury Street
Census Place: Warwick St Mary, Warwickshire, England


Head Noah Berrows M 53 North Malvern, Worcestershire, England
Wife Frances Berrows F 59 Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Son In Law John Henry Sabin M 23 Barford, Warwickshire, England
Daughter Frances Sabin F 23 Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Grand Son Robert B Sabin M 0 Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Adopted Son Arthur Robert Poole M 7 Leamington, Warwickshire, England
Adopted Daughter Emma L L K Poole F 6 Leamington, Warwickshire, England


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Frances' father marriage transcribed as Barrow ( still no S)

Marriages Dec 1847 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>Barrow Noah - Warwick 16 848
Berrow Charles Warwick 16 848
CANNING William Warwick 16 848
Carvell William Warwick 16 848
COCKBILL Elizabeth Warwick 16 848
>>>>>COTTERIL Frances - Warwick 16 848
COTTERIL Sarah Warwick 16 848
GREEN Mary Ann Warwick 16 848


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If this is Rupert's mother Frances , she was also BERROW


Births Mar 1858
Berrow Frances - Ledbury 6a 418

Those details are all correct Mike, thanks

On that 1881 census Mike it says " Robert " but someone must have sent in a correction on Ancestry and it says Rupert

Hi Sandra


It might be easier for us if you kept all your 'Sabin' threads together and then we know whos who :-D

Mike, looking at that marriage record does it look as if Noah and a brother marry two sisters ????.

I have Noah on 1841 census and he is a 13 yr old servant, so he must have married at 19 yrs old.

Regards
Sandra

He is on several public trees on ancestry, but not after 1901.

Sorry Gins. I didn't know you could add different members of the same family to 1 thread, I thought every person had to have a separate thread.

Lesson learned, thanks

Regards
Sandra

Just to confirm the pairing


Charles Berrow
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Dec 1847
Event Place: St Mary, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Father: Samuel Berrow
Mother:
Spouse: Sarah Cotterill
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: Thomas Cotterill


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Yes it does seem two sisters married 2 brothers ( same fathers)


Name: Noah Berrow
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Dec 1847
Event Place: St Mary, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Father: Samuel Berrow
Mother:
Spouse: Frances Cotterill
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: Thomas Cotterill

Maybe Rupert emigrated ?

Patchem, its strange how he just disapears after 1901, I thought it was just me, I'm not practiced well at thinking outside the box yet, that may take many years of experience,

Regards
Sandra

Have you considered looking at Scotland? I know it might sound a bit off-centre, but according to an Ancestry tree his sister and her husband died there 1967 and 1943 respectively.

And found this family, wondered if there is a connection - James senior born Warwickshire, looking at previous census..

1901 Scotland Census

Name: james sabin
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship: Father
Spouse's name : Susan Sabin
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration number: 387
Registration district: Perth
Civil parish: Perth
County: Perthshire
Address: 24 Barrack St
Occupation: Retired Verger

Jas Bower Saint Tudne 34
Mary Ann C sabin Sabin 36
Rupert J T Sabin 2
James Sabin 67
Susan Sabin 70

Jan

Name: John Henry Sabin
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 01 Jun 1879
Event Place: St Mary, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Father: Meshack Sabin
Mother:
Spouse: Frances Berrow
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: Noah Berrow

Have you contacted the other people on here who have him in their tree?

Thanks for the info Mike about Noah's brother, I had Noah marriage, but that didnt tell me how old he was, I was just using Ancestry BMD, and I didnt know he had a brother so thanks again.

I think you might be right about Rupert going abroad, i can't think of any other reason he is not showing up.

I will check out the public tree's to see what they have.

I am finding this thread very slow to refresh, I have been sitting here since I posted my plea for help, honest.

Regards
Sandra

Rupert J T from Scotland 1901
??
R J T Sabin
Address: Piano Tuner,23 Closcburn tcr...
Exchange: Perth
Directory Title: Aberdeen / Dundee / Edinburg / Glasgow / Scotland West / North Ireland Oct
Publication Year: 1947
Directory County: Aberdeen, Angus, Midlothian, Renfrewshire, Northern Ireland
Page Number: 110