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Robert S Paul b 1869 (ish) Lanarkshire

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Mandy

Mandy Report 23 Jul 2012 16:04

Hello
I have a Robert S Paul, who married Grace Faull North in 1931 in Weymouth. It was a second marriage for Grace, don't know about Robert. I have records of their deaths, but wondered if someone could find a birth/baptism record for Robert please? I have found a Robert S Paul living in Partick, Lanarkshire on the 1871 Census, and 'assume' it's the same person. :-|
Sorry, don't know where to look for Scottish records.
Thanks
Mandy

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Jul 2012 16:19

there is this one
goes with 1881 census
Name: Robert Sears Paul
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1868
Birthplace: MILTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Stewart Paul
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Janet Stuart Smith
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11928-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 6035516

PAUL, John S Head Married M 45 1836 Ship Broker
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A

PAUL, Janet S Wife Married F 34 1847
India
N/A

PAUL, Helena S Daughter Unmarried F 13 1868
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A

PAUL, Robert S Son Unmarried M 12 1869
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A

PAUL, Charles H Son Unmarried M 4 1877
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A

MARR, Catherine Servant Unmarried F 52 1829 Servant Domestic
Aberdeen, Aberdeen
N/A

VEITCH, Isabella Servant Married F 48 1833
Aberdeen, Aberdeen
N/A


Piece: 6449

Folio: 26

Page: 7

Registration District: Kelvin

Civil Parish: Barony

Municipal Borough:

Address: 571, Sauchiehall Street, Barony

County: Lanarkshire

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 Jul 2012 16:20

there is this site
FamilySearch.org — Free Family History and Genealogy Records
https://familysearch.org/

Abby

Abby Report 23 Jul 2012 16:26

Groom's Name: Robert Sears Paul
Groom's Birth Date: 1868
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 27
Bride's Name: Grace Macbean
Bride's Birth Date: 1876
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 23 Sep 1895
Marriage Place: Quetta, Bengal, India
Groom's Father's Name: John Stewart Paul
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Duncan Macbean
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M39359-9
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 512355
Reference Number:

tempest

tempest Report 23 Jul 2012 16:27

hi

you could try www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk it's a pay per view site, all bmd for Scotland are there together with many baptism records

Abby

Abby Report 23 Jul 2012 16:28

Frederick Macbean Paul

India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

birth: 09 Jul 1896 Bengal,? India
christening: 03 Aug 1896 Quetta,? Bengal,? India
residence: 1896 Bengal,? India

parents: Robert Sears Paul,? Grace

Charles Alexander Robert Paul

India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

birth: 01 Jul 1900 Bengal,? India
christening: 08 Aug 1900 Quetta,? Bengal,? India
residence: 1900 Bengal,? India

parents: Robert Sears Paul,? Grace

Douglas William Paul

India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

birth: 31 Oct 1906 Quetta,? Bengal,? India
christening: 20 Dec 1906 Quetta,? Bengal,? India
residence: 1906 Bengal,? India

parents: Robert Sears Paul,? Gracie

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Jul 2012 16:33

The probate for Robert Seers Paul in 1942 mentions Frederick Macbean Paul



Name: Frederick Mcbean Paul
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1896
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1971
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5e
Page: 1412

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Jul 2012 16:35

For facts about him......buy the marriage cert

Never assume anything

Marriages Dec 1931 (>99%)

North Grace F Paul Weymouth 5a 806
Paul Robert S North Weymouth 5a 806

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Jul 2012 16:38

For info only


Name: Grace Faull North
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Beacon, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: 94 Dorchester Rd, Weymouth
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Estimated Marriage Year: 1901
Registration district: Weymouth
Registration District Number: 263
Sub-registration district: Weymouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 83
Piece: 12340
Household Members:
Name Age
George Frederick North 37
Grace Faull North 35

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Jul 2012 16:41

Name: Grace North
Birth Date: abt 1876
Age: 50
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1926
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Empress of Scotland
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Scotland' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 144375

Travelling to Weymouth.......with husband George

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Jul 2012 16:43

The marriage cert is going to be vital for the name of his father and occupation

He might have come into the country, from anywhere, from just after birth or just before he married

Mandy

Mandy Report 23 Jul 2012 16:43

Wow, thanks for all this!
Interesting info about marriage and children in India. I wonder what happened to them? Obviously Robert was free to marry Grace North in 1931, after her husband has passed away, and she was too old then to have any more children. Robert is not a key person in my tree, and is not related in any way, but it's great to find out about someone with a slightly more unusual life! Makes a change from all the 'Ag Labs'!
Thanks also for info on Scottish records. This is the first time I've found a Scottish link in my tree, but I may find more - you never know! ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Jul 2012 16:45

Name: Grace F Paul
Birth Date: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Dorchester
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 354

Name: Robert S Paul
Birth Date: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1942
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Weymouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 482

To add to Glitter Baby's info.....Frederick was a Flt Lt RAF

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Jul 2012 16:48

1901 no way of knowing if the same person or not

Name: Robert Paul
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Paul
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/10
Registration district: Anderston
Civil parish: Glasgow St Mark
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 21 Mcintyre Str
Occupation: Boilermaker
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 33
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1901_304
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Paul 34
Mary Paul 31
William Paul 6
Alexander Paul 5

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Jul 2012 21:02

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)

North George Frederick Weymouth 5a 731
Treloar Grace Faull Weymouth 5a 731

You refer to Grace not being able to have 'more' children when she re-married. As far as can be deduced, she didn't have any with North

Mandy

Mandy Report 24 Jul 2012 12:03

You're right as usual Reggie! Grace and George didn't have any children! I think I used the word 'more' a bit loosely to differentiate between being too old and not being able to (if that was the reason). Interesting that they went to Canada, I wonder why, and for how long? More research to do! I do like to find out what people did with their lives, rather than just knowing their dates of birth/baptism, marriage and death, and occupation and where they were living on Census day. :-)

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 24 Jul 2012 12:32

Mandy,
Grace Faull North and husband George sailed to New York from Southhampton aboard the Homeric, arriving NY 3 May 1923.
Looks like they were going to Colorado
Contact in the UK sister/sister in law: Miss North 2 Alexander Rd, Weymouth.

Contact in the US was Grace's sister: ( sister in law of George and sister of Grace)
Mrs R Terrill, 117 Cheyenne Street, Golden, Colorado

EDIT
When they returned on The Empress of Scotland in 1926, although the ship sailed from Quebec, their last permanent residence was un USA.. not Canada.


Anne

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 24 Jul 2012 12:49

This looks like their contact .!
1920 United States Federal Census about Lilly J Terrill
Name: Lilly J Terrill
[Lilly J Timld]
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Golden, Jefferson, Colorado
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1903
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Robert Terrill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Terrill 42
Lilly J Terrill 40
John R W Terrill 16
Grace C Terrill 12
[12 10/12]


1930 United States Federal Census about Lillian Terrill
Name: Lillian Terrill
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Golden, Jefferson, Colorado
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1901
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert A Terrill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert A Terrill 52
Lillian Terrill 51


1940 United States Federal Census about Lillian J Terrill
Name: Lillian J Terrill
Respondent: Yes
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Golden, Jefferson, Colorado
View Map
Street: Cheyenne Street
House Number: 711
Inferred Residence in 1935: Golden, Jefferson, Colorado
Residence in 1935: Same House
Sheet Number: 4B
Rent/home value:

Occupation:

Education:

Employment status:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert A Terrill 62
Lillian J Terrill 67


And Lilly's death
Web: Colorado, Find A Grave Index, 1861-2011 about Lillie Jane Terrill
Name: Lillie Jane Terrill
Birth Date: 1872
Age at Death: 85
Death Date: 1957
Burial Place: Golden, Jefferson County, Colorado, USA
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...


Anne