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Michele
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26 Jul 2012 14:50 |
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I have two sisters Sarah Tolhurst b 1877 and Ellen Tolhurst b 1891 both born in Maidstone, living in Bearsted, their parents are William & Amy, i cannot find Sarah after 1881c . I have searched marriages but none seem to fit, any help would be great
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patchem
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26 Jul 2012 14:53 |
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Do you mean that you have not got Sarah with her family in the 1891 census (when she is only 14)?
Added, just for ref: 1881 England Census William Tolhurst Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Amy Tolhurst Gender: Male Where born: Sittingbourne, Kent, England Civil parish: Thornham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: Ware Street 2 Tolhursts Cottages Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Agricultl Labourer Registration district: Hollingbourn Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 933 Folio: 119 Page Number: 3 William Tolhurst 28 Amy Tolhurst 24 Saral Tolhurst 4 Amy Tolhurst 1 Robert Geo. Reeves 26 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 933; Folio: 119; Page: 3; GSU roll: 1341222.
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ErikaH
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26 Jul 2012 14:54 |
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Perhaps they didn't marry............
Have you checked deaths?
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ErikaH
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26 Jul 2012 14:58 |
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For INFO......1901
Name: Ellen Sollunst [Ellen Tolhurst] Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Sollunst Mother's Name: Amy Sollunst Gender: Female Where born: Thornham, Kent, England Civil parish: Thornham Ecclesiastical parish: Thornham County/Island: Kent Country: England
Registration district: Hollingbourn Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Piece: 770 Folio: 105 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Sollunst 48 Amy Sollunst 43 Rose Sollunst 19 Ellen Sollunst 9
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ErikaH
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26 Jul 2012 14:58 |
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Name: Ellen Tolhurst Age in 1911: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Thurnham, Kent Civil parish: Thornham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: Ware Street, Bearsted, Maidstone, Kent Marital Status: Single Occupation: Assisting In Labourer Dairy Work Registration district: Hollingbourne Registration District Number: 52 Sub-registration district: Hollingbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 110 Piece: 4169 Household Members: Name Age William Tolhurst 58 Amy Tolhurst 55 Ellen Tolhurst 20 Charles William Foster 32 Rose Foster 29 Dorothy Foster 3 William Foster 2 George Foster 3
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Michele
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26 Jul 2012 15:00 |
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Yes Patchem, i cannot find her even though she is only 14, i checked locally incase she was a servant somewhere but nothing came up. Yes i have checked death dates from 1881 onwards
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patchem
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26 Jul 2012 15:01 |
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The 1911 census for William and Amy has them having 4 children, all living.
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patchem
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26 Jul 2012 15:08 |
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Pretended to be older?? 1891 England Census Sarah Tolhurst Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Bobbing, Kent, England Civil parish: Hornsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Hornsey County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hornsey ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Piece: 1059 Folio: 130 Page Number: 51 Jane Wentworth 80 Jane Wentworth 38 Ellen Wentworth 35 Gustav P C Hopf 26 Sarah Tolhurst 16 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1059; Folio: 130; Page: 51; GSU roll: 6096169.
Corresponds to this birth Births Jun 1876 Tolhurst Sarah Milton 2a 814
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tempest
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26 Jul 2012 15:08 |
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a possible on 1891 census
Person: TOLHURST, Sarah Address: 14, Alexandra Road, Hornsey
WENTWORTH, Jane Head Widow F 80 1811 Living On Own Means Pulborough, Sussex WENTWORTH, Jane Daughter Single F 38 1853 Elementary Teacher London School Board Finsbury, London WENTWORTH, Ellen Daughter Single F 35 1856 Living On Own Means Finsbury, London HOPF, Gustav P C Guest Single M 26 1865 Clerk In General Merchants Office Hambury, Germany TOLHURST, Sarah Servant Single F 16 1875 General Servant Domestic Bobbing, Kent
>>>edit, or perhaps not
1901 census Address: Black Cottages, Key Street, Bobbing
TOLHURST, Stephen Head Widower M 62 1839 Farm Labourer Headcorn, Kent TOLHURST, Sarah Daughter F 25 1876 Bobbing, Kent TOLHURST, Mary Daughter F 20 1881 Bobbing, Kent
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Michele
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26 Jul 2012 15:12 |
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I saw this one, is Bobbing near to Milton where she was born if so why would you change your named place of birth
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patchem
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26 Jul 2012 15:12 |
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When did William marry Amy? Was Sarah born before the marriage, and could be shown in 1891 in her Mother's maiden name? (Just a thought)
It depends who fills in the census what place of birth they would put down..
Added: 1911 census says married 36 years, so 1875, so ignore above.
However, only this showing: Marriages Sep 1876 Reeves Amy Maidstone 2a 969 Tolhurst William Maidstone 2a 969
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ErikaH
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26 Jul 2012 15:14 |
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No second forename, unfortunately
Births Dec 1891 (>99%) TOLHURST Ellen Hollingbourn 2a 727
Another of the siblings
Births Dec 1881 (>99%) TOLHURST Rose Hollingbourne 2a 716
No trace of Sarah's birth...............
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ErikaH
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26 Jul 2012 15:18 |
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Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%) Billenners William Robert Maidstone 2a 969 BILLENNESS William Robert Maidstone 2a 969 Edmunds Mary Maidstone 2a 969 Reeves Amy Maidstone 2a 969 Tolhurst William Maidstone 2a 969
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ErikaH
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26 Jul 2012 15:19 |
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???????
Births Jun 1876 (>99%) Reeves Sarah Ann Maidstone 2a 659
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patchem
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26 Jul 2012 15:20 |
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?? Births Jun 1876 Reeves Sarah Ann Maidstone 2a 659
Added: Snap, Reggie.
Michele, I had assumed you had found her birth details..
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patchem
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26 Jul 2012 15:22 |
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?? Marriages Jun 1897 Hughes Frederick James Maidstone 2a 1391 REEVES Sarah Ann Maidstone 2a 1391 Tomsett Harriet Matilda Maidstone 2a 1391 Vidgen Charles Maidstone 2a 1391
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tempest
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26 Jul 2012 15:27 |
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1901 census Address: Chapel Lane, Thornham, Village
VIDGEN, Charles Head Married M 25 1876 Agricultural Labourer Sutton Valence, Kent VIDGEN, Sarah Wife Married F 24 1877 Maidstone, Kent VIDGEN, Ellen Daughter Single F 3 1898 Thornham, Kent VIDGEN, Rose Daughter Single F 1 1900 Thornham, Kent
1911 census Address: Chapel Lane Thurnham
VIDGEN, Charles Head Married M 35 1876 Farm Labourer Sutton Valena Kent VIDGEN, Sarah Ann Wife Married13 years F 34 1877 Maidstone Kent VIDGEN, Ellen May Daughter F 13 1898 School Thurnham Kent VIDGEN, Rose Ada Daughter F 11 1900 School Thurnham Kent VIDGEN, Charles William Son M 9 1902 School Thurnham Kent VIDGEN, Amy Clara Daughter F 7 1904 School Thurnham Kent VIDGEN, Ethel Frances Daughter F 4 1907 Thurnham Kent VIDGEN, Bertha Daughter F 1 1910 Thurnham Kent
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ErikaH
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26 Jul 2012 15:27 |
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Piggybacking on the marriage posted by patchem
Name: Charles Vidgen Age in 1911: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Sutton Valence, Kent Civil parish: Thornham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: Chapel Lane, Thurnham Marital Status: Married Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: Hollingbourne Registration District Number: 52 Sub-registration district: Hollingbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 92 Piece: 4169 Household Members: Name Age Charles Vidgen 35 Sarah Ann Vidgen 34 Ellen May Vidgen 13 Rose Ada Vidgen 11 Charles William Vidgen 9 Amy Clara Vidgen 7 Ethel Frances Vidgen 4 Bertha Vidgen 1
The names of 3 of the daughters look interesting
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patchem
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26 Jul 2012 15:31 |
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The names of the daughters do, indeed, look interesting.
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26 Jul 2012 15:32 |
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Civil registration event: Death Name: VIDGEN, Sarah A Registration district: Maidstone County: Kent Year of registration: 1947 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death:71 Volume no: 5B Page no: 893
she was a widow
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Sarah Ann Vidgen Name: Sarah Ann Vidgen Probate Date: 25 Jun 1947 Death Date: 28 Mar 1947 Death Place: Maidstone Registry: London, England
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